Guild Wars 2

Dear anet, im with you since realese of nightfall (gw1). I have been played necro then and I main necro in gw2 since realese. But recent patch ( october and actuall one ) shows you guys have absolutly no idea how to handle this class, how to balance it, how to make it viable raids and pvp. You say you want to improve greatsword gameplay but dont change nearly anything…
Nothing had changed in life steal. If we compare our aura/buff to any other class buff our looks like potato.
Nothing in death magic. You dont even answer to any necromancer question in AMA.

So please, stop embarrasing yourself and remove necro from game for like 2 month and focus on his overhaul.

(Sorry for any english mistakes, itd not my native)

I heard they are going to nerf epi soon as well, hopefully it’s separate from pve.

I’m just going to assume you’re complaining from a PvP/WvW/Raids perspective. Necro isn’t nearly as bad as Revenant at the moment but kids will be kids it seems. The class is fine, it needs some tweaks but it’s not anywhere near as bad as you’re claiming it to be. Necromancer as a class in ANY MMO is never meant to deal damage equal to that of Assassins or ‘Warriors’. Necromancers are about self-survivability and is usually the best class for soloers.

The reason why they don’t answer anything in forums anymore is because of EXACTLY how you’re acting right now. Kids constantly whine and complain to them because their ‘favorite’ class isn’t OP or God Tier. Coming from someone whose class has always been Necro throughout EVERY MMO I’ve played, ANET is doing Necro correctly. It’s weak, needs some tweaks, but it’s how Necro should be at its core. If you don’t like it, find a new class. It’s funny how the good players can still make the most out of what we’ve got, meanwhile there’s players like you who just whine, throw a tantrum, and leaves because you can’t make the most out of what we’ve got. That’s what differentiates a good Necro/Reaper from a bad one: adaptability.

Don’t go formulating your complaints off of ‘top tier’ stuff either, that’s a small percentage of the game. Reapers are still decent picks in Fractals, where I’m told yields more rewards than Raids anyways.

Clearly you’re still new to the game, GS got a nice buff in plenty of areas. Not what the general public wants, but the buffs do make a difference in GS whether you see it or not.

Finally, they will not remove Necro. It’s a core Profession, if they temporarily remove any Profession it will most likely be Revenant since it’s far more buggy, clunky and generally unfinished compared to Necro. So please, stop embarrassing yourself and take a seat. Throwing a fit won’t solve anything, it’s just unwanted drama that should remain back in High School.

Lets face it with raids. Even the classes with slightly less dps than eles are mostly ignored (thief/guardian). Unless there is some sort of special mechanic that requires something different, like condi in VG, its almost always 2 mes, 2 druid, 2 ps war, 4 dps which are almost always eles.

Okami.7049:

Necromancers are about self-survivability and is usually the best class for soloers.

Necromancers have the worst survivability of any class including revs in WvW and sPvP, and are 100% dependant on team support.

Necromancer in pvp is the exact opposite of what how it functions in PvE. Largely because of how much more damage players do compared to mobs.

Crinn.7864:

Okami.7049:

Necromancers are about self-survivability and is usually the best class for soloers.

Necromancers have the worst survivability of any class including revs in WvW and sPvP, and are 100% dependant on team support.

Necromancer in pvp is the exact opposite of what how it functions in PvE. Largely because of how much more damage players do compared to mobs.

I don’t think we’ve met: I’m a strict PvEr and I have more survivability than I ever did on my Rev. I hate PvP and WvW for personal reasons and I’ll leave it at that. Irrelevant and meaningless to me.

Lolwhat?

Boon corruption on nightfall is quite generous making that skill fairly stacked now.

Justine.6351:

Lolwhat?

Boon corruption on nightfall is quite generous making that skill fairly stacked now.

If I may add: using Spite and Curse will also allow Nightfall to apply Vulnerability and Bleed stacks per pulse if Traited so that Blind causes Chill which in turn causes Vulnerability and Bleed. It’s not really optimal, from my testing, but it sure as heck was fun.

Okami.7049:

Justine.6351:

Lolwhat?

Boon corruption on nightfall is quite generous making that skill fairly stacked now.

If I may add: using Spite and Curse will also allow Nightfall to apply Vulnerability and Bleed stacks per pulse if Traited so that Blind causes Chill which in turn causes Vulnerability and Bleed. It’s not really optimal, from my testing, but it sure as heck was fun.

Sadly, Chilling Darkness (chill on blind – curses) has a 3s icd. So you will only get 2 procs from Nightfall. Interestingly, Chilling Darkness didn’t use to have an icd, pre HoT, and made Well of Darkness viable using the combo you suggested. But they nerfed it soon after and WoD has been useless ever since.

Okami.7049:

I’m just going to assume you’re complaining from a PvP/WvW/Raids perspective. Necro isn’t nearly as bad as Revenant at the moment but kids will be kids it seems. The class is fine, it needs some tweaks but it’s not anywhere near as bad as you’re claiming it to be. Necromancer as a class in ANY MMO is never meant to deal damage equal to that of Assassins or ‘Warriors’. Necromancers are about self-survivability and is usually the best class for soloers.

The reason why they don’t answer anything in forums anymore is because of EXACTLY how you’re acting right now. Kids constantly whine and complain to them because their ‘favorite’ class isn’t OP or God Tier. Coming from someone whose class has always been Necro throughout EVERY MMO I’ve played, ANET is doing Necro correctly. It’s weak, needs some tweaks, but it’s how Necro should be at its core. If you don’t like it, find a new class. It’s funny how the good players can still make the most out of what we’ve got, meanwhile there’s players like you who just whine, throw a tantrum, and leaves because you can’t make the most out of what we’ve got. That’s what differentiates a good Necro/Reaper from a bad one: adaptability.

Don’t go formulating your complaints off of ‘top tier’ stuff either, that’s a small percentage of the game. Reapers are still decent picks in Fractals, where I’m told yields more rewards than Raids anyways.

Clearly you’re still new to the game, GS got a nice buff in plenty of areas. Not what the general public wants, but the buffs do make a difference in GS whether you see it or not.

Finally, they will not remove Necro. It’s a core Profession, if they temporarily remove any Profession it will most likely be Revenant since it’s far more buggy, clunky and generally unfinished compared to Necro. So please, stop embarrassing yourself and take a seat. Throwing a fit won’t solve anything, it’s just unwanted drama that should remain back in High School.

So I take it you’ve had zero problems finding raid groups to take you on your Necro?

Oldirtbeard.9834:

Okami.7049:

I’m just going to assume you’re complaining from a PvP/WvW/Raids perspective. Necro isn’t nearly as bad as Revenant at the moment but kids will be kids it seems. The class is fine, it needs some tweaks but it’s not anywhere near as bad as you’re claiming it to be. Necromancer as a class in ANY MMO is never meant to deal damage equal to that of Assassins or ‘Warriors’. Necromancers are about self-survivability and is usually the best class for soloers.

The reason why they don’t answer anything in forums anymore is because of EXACTLY how you’re acting right now. Kids constantly whine and complain to them because their ‘favorite’ class isn’t OP or God Tier. Coming from someone whose class has always been Necro throughout EVERY MMO I’ve played, ANET is doing Necro correctly. It’s weak, needs some tweaks, but it’s how Necro should be at its core. If you don’t like it, find a new class. It’s funny how the good players can still make the most out of what we’ve got, meanwhile there’s players like you who just whine, throw a tantrum, and leaves because you can’t make the most out of what we’ve got. That’s what differentiates a good Necro/Reaper from a bad one: adaptability.

Don’t go formulating your complaints off of ‘top tier’ stuff either, that’s a small percentage of the game. Reapers are still decent picks in Fractals, where I’m told yields more rewards than Raids anyways.

Clearly you’re still new to the game, GS got a nice buff in plenty of areas. Not what the general public wants, but the buffs do make a difference in GS whether you see it or not.

Finally, they will not remove Necro. It’s a core Profession, if they temporarily remove any Profession it will most likely be Revenant since it’s far more buggy, clunky and generally unfinished compared to Necro. So please, stop embarrassing yourself and take a seat. Throwing a fit won’t solve anything, it’s just unwanted drama that should remain back in High School.

So I take it you’ve had zero problems finding raid groups to take you on your Necro?

I haven’t had problems personally, but I’m also selective about what groups I prefer to join, but I think it’s best to go with my friends, even though they’re 100% inexperienced.

It’s the same with all professions. Lesser-used lines are pretty much all ignored. Arguably the thief is in a worse spot; I want to say CS hasn’t had a change since the trait shakeup.

The reaper at least is currently quite strong (WvW), particularly its condi variant. The new DChill is kind of totally and completely bonkers.

Oldirtbeard.9834:

Okami.7049:

I’m just going to assume you’re complaining from a PvP/WvW/Raids perspective. Necro isn’t nearly as bad as Revenant at the moment but kids will be kids it seems. The class is fine, it needs some tweaks but it’s not anywhere near as bad as you’re claiming it to be. Necromancer as a class in ANY MMO is never meant to deal damage equal to that of Assassins or ‘Warriors’. Necromancers are about self-survivability and is usually the best class for soloers.

The reason why they don’t answer anything in forums anymore is because of EXACTLY how you’re acting right now. Kids constantly whine and complain to them because their ‘favorite’ class isn’t OP or God Tier. Coming from someone whose class has always been Necro throughout EVERY MMO I’ve played, ANET is doing Necro correctly. It’s weak, needs some tweaks, but it’s how Necro should be at its core. If you don’t like it, find a new class. It’s funny how the good players can still make the most out of what we’ve got, meanwhile there’s players like you who just whine, throw a tantrum, and leaves because you can’t make the most out of what we’ve got. That’s what differentiates a good Necro/Reaper from a bad one: adaptability.

Don’t go formulating your complaints off of ‘top tier’ stuff either, that’s a small percentage of the game. Reapers are still decent picks in Fractals, where I’m told yields more rewards than Raids anyways.

Clearly you’re still new to the game, GS got a nice buff in plenty of areas. Not what the general public wants, but the buffs do make a difference in GS whether you see it or not.

Finally, they will not remove Necro. It’s a core Profession, if they temporarily remove any Profession it will most likely be Revenant since it’s far more buggy, clunky and generally unfinished compared to Necro. So please, stop embarrassing yourself and take a seat. Throwing a fit won’t solve anything, it’s just unwanted drama that should remain back in High School.

So I take it you’ve had zero problems finding raid groups to take you on your Necro?

So I take it Raids is all that matters in PvE, then? There’s far more to the game than Raids (which is pointless to me since Fractals yield better rewards). PvE consists of Achievements as well you know. Anyone with the pointless argument about Raids (which is always repeated) clearly isn’t here for the RPG part of the MMORPG. Raids is a small percentage anyways, most players typically finish HoT, get their Ascended gear and either start a new character or leave until something fresh and new arrives. End Game = Legendaries, everyone knows that.

All i ask is:Could ANET PLEASE NERF CLEANSES? its so stupid that i keep putting up bleeds and it immediately people spam cleanse.Its so easy to just zerg and spam it that its dumb and brainless.

Lahmia.2193:

Unless there is some sort of special mechanic that requires something different, like condi in VG, its almost always 2 mes, 2 druid, 2 ps war, 4 dps which are almost always eles.

Which is sad since most ele’s I’ve seen are really bad and get downed the instant something happens in the fight and aren’t contributing much in terms of dps. Some eles even do lower dps than your average chrono.

Lahmia.2193:

Okami.7049:

Justine.6351:

Lolwhat?

Boon corruption on nightfall is quite generous making that skill fairly stacked now.

If I may add: using Spite and Curse will also allow Nightfall to apply Vulnerability and Bleed stacks per pulse if Traited so that Blind causes Chill which in turn causes Vulnerability and Bleed. It’s not really optimal, from my testing, but it sure as heck was fun.

Sadly, Chilling Darkness (chill on blind – curses) has a 3s icd. So you will only get 2 procs from Nightfall. Interestingly, Chilling Darkness didn’t use to have an icd, pre HoT, and made Well of Darkness viable using the combo you suggested. But they nerfed it soon after and WoD has been useless ever since.

Sorry didn’t see your reply. Yeah I noticed that when I was goofing around with it. WoD is still useful to me, but that’s also because I’m running Blood Magic (my default) over Curses so I get the Blind, Protection and lifestealing. Without BM, agreed WoD is pointless (though to me all of the Wells are pointless without BM). That biggest issue I found trying to run that Spite/Curses combo: no sustain. I was hoping Parasitic Contagion would give some kind of sustain, not as much as BM obviously but something. But since the only damaging Condition you get in a Power build is Bleed, and you typically have no to minimal Condi Damage, I decided Chilling Darkness wasn’t worth it in the end. If we ever get a 4th Spec slot (hopefully as we get more Specs we can receive another Slot) I’ll try Curses again with Spite and BM alongside it to see how that goes. You could go Soul Reaping, the common route, but I personally don’t like it and I only use Shroud for burst/hard CC anyways.