Guild Wars 2

So I’m running a hybridish…. yea…. build mainly for wvw, I cannot live without 25% move speed so I’m at odds either locust or i go traveler. I already have CB and SA but I think SW would be great for wvw too

Edit: If locust is just better to go with, what other rune options are good?

I play standard condi necro with flesh golem as elite.

In team fight (my prefer situation as condi) I do very well effort in the fight, in 1vs1 I think I good but not too much because I have some problem in 1vs1 against thief, Mesmer and sometimes Wars.
What is your general skill rotation in general 1vs1 situation?
How is your playstyle against this 3 classe and the others?

Speaking of non-swimming golems… what are your thoughts on an underwater build?

NeXeD.3042:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fRAQNAW7Yjc0UTbtNe2wfbighSyW4DiuBCgzlykIKA-TJxHwAFuIAA3f4YZAAPBAA

Hey is this close to what you run in tpvp? If not what do you think about the trait choices and sigils other than the energy and fear stuff.

Close but i run corrupt boon, spectral walk/armor/plague sig, wurm. And i run carrion with those traits.

CyanideRayne.2413:

So I’m running a hybridish…. yea…. build mainly for wvw, I cannot live without 25% move speed so I’m at odds either locust or i go traveler. I already have CB and SA but I think SW would be great for wvw too

Edit: If locust is just better to go with, what other rune options are good?

I am the same way. If i dont run travelers, i have spectral walk. if i have travelers, i run different utilities/traits. We really need it imo.

Dany Little Star.2837:

I play standard condi necro with flesh golem as elite.

In team fight (my prefer situation as condi) I do very well effort in the fight, in 1vs1 I think I good but not too much because I have some problem in 1vs1 against thief, Mesmer and sometimes Wars.
What is your general skill rotation in general 1vs1 situation?
How is your playstyle against this 3 classe and the others?

Hmmm i don’t have a general “rotation”. Its all reactive or proactive depending on the class i am engaging or got engaged by.

thief- interrupting the heal is usually a kill window on d/p. If they run withdraw/are s/d or pistol whip, you need to just get used to the timing windows when to spike with fear. S/d is really good at hunting necros.

war- need to dodge every stun/pindown and save burst for after zerking and endure pain (though you can set them up while endure is still up)

mesmer- you need to just get good at reading the shatters. Also dodge illusionary zerker and mirror blade. If you interrupt their heal, its usually GG.

Learn what things you should soak with DS.

Morte.5916:

Speaking of non-swimming golems… what are your thoughts on an underwater build?

Haha, i’ve never really thought about building around underwater :P.

My favorite UW was krait runes, bone minions, bone fiend, SoS, blood fiend, and a power MM build. Ranged minions, with exoderama and immob are sweet.

Underwater Pro here
generaly for condi builds you want the following utility skills: corrupt boon, spectral grasp and one stunbreak. basic Combo is trident 4, grasp, ds fear, poison field and torment, weapon swap, spear 4, 2, spit, point, laugh, if you run reapers protection you can also open in spear with 5,4,ds stuff,grasp,2, weapon swap, 4, aa.
For traits dhuumfire is quite potent underwater, so a 64004 build would usualy be recommended by me, but reapers protection builds are also quite powerful.

If you run a power build your utilities arent as important, but havign grasp always helps. Also in power you want to take increased down dmg, cause necro downed underwater can still 1v1 quite good with that and if your enemy is ~50% hp when you go down you should be able to win in most cases.

Too bad they removed underwater from spvp QQ

PvEr here. Finished personal story, getting bored of Dry Top mob farming.

PLZZZZ I want a use for my Necromancer! Isn’t there ANY place in dungeons which we excel?

Kain Francois.4328:

PLZZZZ I want a use for my Necromancer! Isn’t there ANY place in dungeons which we excel?

We’re excellent at being the only profession not worth bringing into dungeons?

Bhawb.7408:

Kain Francois.4328:

PLZZZZ I want a use for my Necromancer! Isn’t there ANY place in dungeons which we excel?

We’re excellent at being the only profession not worth bringing into dungeons?

We are also very good at standing infront of dungeons waiting for someone to take us in lack of some realy useful class xD

Very simple question that I think I might already know the answer to but:

Epidemic, if I use it on one person, say in WvW which is where I would be using this, will it or will it not increase my damage against that person? I have been playing Necromancer for quite some time as well but in the many threads I’ve browsed through out my time playing GW2 I’ve seen a lot of vague information surrounding this skill. People seem to suggest using it against a single person and I’m wondering if I’ve been missing out on damage because I’ll only ever use it in large scale ZvZ.

If you use Epidemic on the target you are focusing you will spread his/her conditions to others, but basically your target will not be further affected. However, if you are dueling with someone who has pet AIs susceptible to conditions such as Rangers, Mesmers, Necros or some weird Guardians, Epidemic can be quite useful. In those duels, Epidemic essentially allows you to wear down those pet AIs by spreading the conditions on your main target to all of them and put your foe in disadvantage for relying on them. Moreover, you can potentially increase your condition output to an even greater extent in those duels: after you successfully spread the conditions on your main target, cast Epidemic on one of his/her pets to apply all the conditions you have just spread from the original target to the original target yet again.

For example, you cast Epidemic on a Mesmer to spread X stacks of bleeds to his/her phantasms. After the cooldown of Epidemic finishes, you select a phantasm and cast Epidemic on it to spread the Y stacks of bleeds on it to all nearby targets. Without this combo, the Mesmer may have only Z stacks of bleeds on him/her but with this combo; now he/she has (Y + Z) stacks of bleeds and his/her phantasms have (Y + T) stacks of bleeds where without Epidemic they would have almost none.

Kain Francois.4328:

PvEr here. Finished personal story, getting bored of Dry Top mob farming.

PLZZZZ I want a use for my Necromancer! Isn’t there ANY place in dungeons which we excel?

Life stealing the Jade Maw. Life steal from dark fields is seriously underated. And full dungeon skip of COE story mode (Other classes can do it but require either a necro to res them or someone with a res orb). Thats about it.

Can also do all map blink exploits that thief, mesmer and ele can do.

Newb here looking for advice.

I played a few weeks after the games initial release and just came back last week.

I just hit 80 last night. I’m looking for a WvW / EOTM build preferably focused around solo encounters not group play. Along with noob gear recommendations.

I was thinking of giving Blackmoa’s build a try:

http://intothemists.com/guides/4335-condi_bruiser

for wvw you can go a more selfish condi build, dire armor with rabid trinkets and weapons 66002 worked fine for me so far

Appreciate the reply but I have no idea what you just said

I’ve only been playing a few days haha

If your doing eotm cheese the crap out of it dire armor rabid trinkets 0/6/4/0/4 terrormancer and enjoy throwing people off. There is a couple spots where you can sort of hide and wait for the karma trains throw a spectral wall down and kill half the train.

Maybe I need to create my own thread. I’m way too noob. I don’t understand half of what you said.

What is dire armor?
- I’ve come to find it’s crafted armor, is there any other way to get condition, toughness, vitality armor?

Where do Rabid trinkets come from?

What would be a more selfish condi build? Could you link something?

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Exotic_karma_trinkets
Or else search the TP to find trinkets with the stats you want (rabid : precision, toughness, Condition Damage)

The armor with the stat combination toughness,vitality,Condition Damage is called Dire. The armor stats for lv80 armors are always in triads (power/prec/ferocity, toughness/vitality/healing power, etc).

I’d suggest you watch this video if you find the time, its very good to get you up to date with necro in WvW, especially roaming fights…the build is still good, but there are more variations, like this one : http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fRAQNBLhZakjmyb7px4G+bTEMUS1CR3ABw5SdSEFNBA-TVyCABA8AAU4EAswhAIF9BLv/gPq/MxRAIRlgZp8jUAwssC-w

Here is one more if you are on budget : http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fRAQNBLhZakjmyb7px4G+bTEMUS2CfQ0NQAcuUmERBA-TlyAABWoEEw9Hk4EAAg5vJOEAxoPwI1fq4BAsxRA4JlfkCAmlVA-w

Make sure you always buy trinkets lv80. You dont have to buy exotics for start, you can buy rares.
The best trinkets are ascended trinkets, available from fractals or Laurel Vendors:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Fractals_of_the_Mists
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Laurel_Merchant

Dont feel overwhelmed man, its really simple, and dont be in a hurry to get the best gear ever, the gear isnt changing any time soon

TP? Sorry, very new :P

Did you link a video?

And am I missing something or did you link the same build twice?

Thank you very much for the reply.

What would be your recommended build for leveling?
(PvE or EotM)

I’m thinking of trying this for small group wvw / eotm

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fRAQNAoYWjc00Yb3N20whbCchaukA62MAu3Y/gMA-TFyAABWoEEw9HAw8XMaCm4QAYk6PbcEAeS5HA-w

TP: Trading Post. When ingame, press O
i linked different builds, check the trinkets/traits
man i suck, here is the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptGYVTaDrOo

about the build you linked, dagger mainhand is an absolute power weapon, if you play conditions, scepter is a must. The build you posted has…serious problems in the trait department:)

Makes me really happy that some many others are jumping in to provide really good info

Hey, great thread. I love it when the forums are helpful instead of hurtful

I almost never see a necro with a focus, I was wondering if there was a build that utilized the focus, or what function the focus is best suited for? With the vuln and boon removal it seems like it would be a nice power build or bunker buster type thing, but then being the only offhand that provides regen it seems like maybe a decent survival weapon. Even still I don’t see many necros with the focus. Where would it fit best?

Thanks

Koloman.1632:

I almost never see a necro with a focus, I was wondering if there was a build that utilized the focus, or what function the focus is best suited for? With the vuln and boon removal it seems like it would be a nice power build or bunker buster type thing, but then being the only offhand that provides regen it seems like maybe a decent survival weapon. Even still I don’t see many necros with the focus. Where would it fit best?

I use it all the time, its awesome. It is mainly used for the boon removal, which can be utilized by any build, but also has use for burst, vuln stacking, and in chill builds. Basically any build can use it, as long as you need what it provides and can give up what you lose by not taking the other OHs.

Hey! I’ve been playing a condi build in pvp and I’ve been doing really well, but I want to get more in wvw. I’ve heard that that power/well builds are where it’s at right now for large group fights. What kind of build/gear/runes should I pursue for this? Or are these power builds overrated in wvw?

Pelopidas.2140:

TP: Trading Post. When ingame, press O
i linked different builds, check the trinkets/traits
man i suck, here is the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptGYVTaDrOo

about the build you linked, dagger mainhand is an absolute power weapon, if you play conditions, scepter is a must. The build you posted has…serious problems in the trait department:)

Appreciate the reply! After a few hours playing the build I linked I ditched it.

I’m now using the budget build you linked. Although I may ditch well of power for something like SoS or epi?

I already have consume conditions, #4 on staff and #4 on warhorn to remove conditions.

Suggestions?

Aeniklast.9283:

Pelopidas.2140:

TP: Trading Post. When ingame, press O
i linked different builds, check the trinkets/traits
man i suck, here is the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptGYVTaDrOo

about the build you linked, dagger mainhand is an absolute power weapon, if you play conditions, scepter is a must. The build you posted has…serious problems in the trait department:)

Appreciate the reply! After a few hours playing the build I linked I ditched it.

I’m now using the budget build you linked. Although I may ditch well of power for something like SoS or epi?

I already have consume conditions, #4 on staff and #4 on warhorn to remove conditions.

Suggestions?

Well warhorn 4 doesnt remove conditions But yeah sure, Signet of Spite + fears is a good damaging combination

What is reason/benefit to run 6/4/0/0/4 over 0/6/4/0/4 or 0/6/4/0/4 over 6/4/0/0/4 in specific match as condi necro? What thinking proces should i have when choosing either of this? (or even the 4/6/0/0/4)

I was going to make my own thread, but i guess i’ll just ask here.

just started a necro (doing my “try every class to find a main” thing), and I’m liking the Axe/Focus combination. I think that would be my primary weapon set in the long run. They seem to be a Power-based weaponset, so I’d lean in that direction.

thinking about my second weapon set. I’m pretty much set on Dagger being my mainhand. I’m just not sure what to put in my offhand, another Dagger, or a Warhorn.

thoughts on this, from a Power Necro(that uses DS as more than just a second healthbar) perspective?

and one more thing, do Power Necros care particularly about Crit, or do they typically focus more on Vit/Toughness to go with straight Power?

Emapudapus.1307:

What is reason/benefit to run 6/4/0/0/4 over 0/6/4/0/4 or 0/6/4/0/4 over 6/4/0/0/4 in specific match as condi necro? What thinking proces should i have when choosing either of this? (or even the 4/6/0/0/4)

Simple, the 6/4/0/0/4 takes dhuumfire and chill of death, so use it for more damage. Works good with carrion amulet in my opinion.
0/6/4/0/4 takes path of corruption, it is more survivable (with rabid amulet you survive everything) and has cooldowns on staff skills.
Just mentioning 0/6/2/0/6 with foot in the grave+enfeebling blood+near to death, is also pretty good. Low condi duration, but that stability is totally worth it.

JMadFour.9730:

I was going to make my own thread, but i guess i’ll just ask here.

just started a necro (doing my “try every class to find a main” thing), and I’m liking the Axe/Focus combination. I think that would be my primary weapon set in the long run. They seem to be a Power-based weaponset, so I’d lean in that direction.

thinking about my second weapon set. I’m pretty much set on Dagger being my mainhand. I’m just not sure what to put in my offhand, another Dagger, or a Warhorn.

thoughts on this, from a Power Necro(that uses DS as more than just a second healthbar) perspective?

and one more thing, do Power Necros care particularly about Crit, or do they typically focus more on Vit/Toughness to go with straight Power?

A necro who uses ds only as a second hp bar sucks:D
Hmm i think dagger works better with high crit chance, its fun to use it with fire+air sigil, and auto attack your enemy to death. It also has a valuable immob, which synergizes good with wells for example.
Axe auto doesnt do a lot of direct damage, its utility is to provide vuln for your minions to hit hard with auto, or to do a handy burst. Of course axe #3 is a very useful skill to kite/gain retal/remove a boon.

Necros also have this great trait, death perception (50% chance in ds), so you can build around it. 3-6k life blasts arent uncommon

Thanks Pelopidas … but was thinking more about based on what enemies you face, what team composition you have/what roll you take (treb/close/mid….) and that kind of stuff. Like waiting before match start and thinking which build of those would benefit me more this game (xxx build works more if your team is bunkersih or doesnt have guardian bunker, yyy build works better if enemy have 2+wars ….. basic stuff like thiis :p)

Bhawb.7408:

Koloman.1632:

I almost never see a necro with a focus, I was wondering if there was a build that utilized the focus, or what function the focus is best suited for? With the vuln and boon removal it seems like it would be a nice power build or bunker buster type thing, but then being the only offhand that provides regen it seems like maybe a decent survival weapon. Even still I don’t see many necros with the focus. Where would it fit best?

I use it all the time, its awesome. It is mainly used for the boon removal, which can be utilized by any build, but also has use for burst, vuln stacking, and in chill builds. Basically any builkittenittene it, as long as you need what it provides and can give up what you lose by not taking the other OHs.

Yes it is awesome but i dont think the long casting time of 5 makes it kinda clunky. Imo the damage and the casttime of spinal shivers should be reduced.

Pelopidas.2140:

but there are more variations, like this one : http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fRAQNBLhZakjmyb7px4G+bTEMUS1CR3ABw5SdSEFNBA-TVyCABA8AAU4EAswhAIF9BLv/gPq/MxRAIRlgZp8jUAwssC-w

One more stupid question.

Where do dire + rabid trinkets come from in the build you linked?

I can only find one or the other ><

Search Dulfy.Com for temple NPCs. There is also a laurel vend or in LA.

When using corrupt boon, do you convert their buffs to conditions using your condition damage and duration?

Same goes for sigils such as generosity and any other ability that transfers such as staff 4.

Thank you BTW for this thread, this question has been bugging me for a while and I would like a definitive answer.

Yes, you get your duration and damage with all transfers and corrupts.

NeXeD.3042:

Yes, you get your duration and damage with all transfers and corrupts.

Thanks, knowing this will come in handy with my build.

Btw, transfers do not get affected by any duration increase.