Berserker Necro Zerg Busting

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Posted by: Sororita.3465

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For the longest time i only use to solo/small man team in WvW, it was fun for a while until the only classes it seemed i ran into were thieves and mesmers, not only that but the same organized 5 mans over and over again while mine was always random people from my server alliance. In no way am i trying to insult them, theyre all good players, theres just not much you can do against 5+ mesmers/thieves that have been running together for months.

So i decided that i was in need of a change, whats the opposite of solo/group roaming i thought? Of course the answer was zerging. I didnt want to be another condition Necro on the block, no offense, so i tried berserker gear and was pleasantly surprised with the out come, especially if you have more than one berserker necro at a time.

The down side to this build, which im sure has been posted before but its always nice to refrekitten now and again, is that it lacks sutvivability out side of large group play. It’ll pretty much be a race to see if you can nuke them down before they get you but with 5 sec DS and plague you can soak up alot of damage.

Well enough rambling, enjoy the video.

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Posted by: Rennoko.5731

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I have run full zerker gear, and have a set for zergging, and I can say it works much better than any other option… the wells do hit like a truck, the markkitten like a truck. I generally take close to death and the mark 10% trait, since I am on staff 99% of the time.

Not really sure why you would invest so heavily in the DS tree. The extra life for generation and DS availability it nice, but you are trading lots of power, and 20% more damage below 50% hp. I have lots of life force with people dropping in zerg fights, and 5 extra seconds is not the death of me in ZvZ.

I dislike how lacking in skill the entire concept of zerker staff is though…. its basically mashing marks, ignoring their effects beyond the fact they hit hard, and then using DS4, wells, repeat…. its a lot like play a staff ele in a zerg, in thakittens just boring to me. No reason to swap weapons, because in a zerg fight, nothing you can swap to is going to work from 1200 range, and sceptor isnt that great in zerker gear.

No doubt it it is effective, but I didn’t find it enjoyable at all. Glamor mesmer was this way for me as well before the nerf. Effective, but boring. It is also very unsatisfying being 2shot by a zerker thief randomly in zerker gear.

Right now smart zerg guilds stack necros, guardians, staff eles. It is basically uncounterable, the necros remove the stability of other zergs, then the line of warding and reflections pile them up, while the eles stun and dps them. Confusion mesmers are still okay, just not as good as they used to be (or even close really).

To farm bags and badges, this is how you do it though. So if you feel you are missing out on that train…

EDIT: These autocorrects from anet are out of control… these are just normal words strung togther that can be made into offensive words….. i refuse to correct them, but rest assured I am not cursing like a sailor.

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Posted by: Sororita.3465

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True, true. Down here in tier 7 we dont have any real Zerg ball guilds to speak of, its mass vs mass. Many times i get targeted by thieves but its usually always the same tricks, Basilisk venom then try to burst you down. Thats easily countered by poping DS, fearing, imbolising with dagger # 3 then bursting them ( double well, focus #4 and then dagger spam).

Pretty much an average player here and facing thief after thief and mesmer after mesmer is no fun at all. Especially seeming their class mechanics can assure them alot of survivability while going full zerker, a lot more than us. so ill stick to bombing zergs as my fun

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Posted by: Lolicia.6502

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Please pick up chilling darkness—we need more chill/blind/poison plagues on our server! Plus it’s another way to trap people in your wells if you don’t have a friendly guardian or ele assisting you (or anyone else with aoe control).

You may want to consider investing more in spite for ‘close to death’ (extra power and condition duration are also desirable) and curses for ‘target the weak’ to increase your damage. I like 30/30/10/0/0 when I run a more berserker oriented power wells build. You can also pick up ‘weakening shroud’ to help with defense.

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Posted by: Nay of the Ether.8913

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Good grief I need to come play on your server! I’ve never seen people stand in wells so long in my life. Usually I’ll get a few hits on them tops, then they clear out. Also I’m used to zergs much bigger than that, I play in tier 1 most of the time so wells are usually pretty useless there unless you’re just raiding camps. I’m honestly pretty sick of playing in high tiers, it’s the same predictable crap, same teams all the time. Watching you guys play reminded me I had fun in wvw once.

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Posted by: rogerwilko.6895

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Good grief I need to come play on your server! I’ve never seen people stand in wells so long in my life.

It`s T7, what do you expect?

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Posted by: Nay of the Ether.8913

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Good grief I need to come play on your server! I’ve never seen people stand in wells so long in my life.

It`s T7, what do you expect?

Fair enough I wasn’t being uppity, wasn’t sure what tier they were on. Just makes me miss being in a lower tier where it feels like the fights are meaningful, not blob-v-blob

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Posted by: Xehanort.4589

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Which are your Sigils/Runes?

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Posted by: Blood Red Arachnid.2493

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As a condition necro in WvW I do envy the burst that the zerker necro has. I run carrion so it isn’t all bad; I can do plenty of damage with wells and Life Transfer. It is for the burst that I run terror now. Although I would definitely recommend some changes to the build.

If the only weapon you’re using is the staff, I’d definitely recommend -10 from Soul Reaping and +10 into Death magic for the Staff Recharge rate. Since the big damage is in staff is from Putrid Mark and Chillblains, getting those as quickly as possible would be well worth losing the 5% loss in damage from high LF (not sure how often you use DS so it might not be worth losing Close to death). I’m figuring that the limited recharge on most DS skills is going to make it so the only thing lost from using Close to Death is the high retaliation uptime, but with the recent retaliation nerf that isn’t as useful as it was before.

Anyway, in tier 1 we do have some times when people will just stand in a well like that. If you have a big enough zerg and a small enough defending team, sometimes the people who sit at the flame rams on a gate will just try and facetank anything that comes in their way, assuming that the heals from the team will cover for them. If you have a couple of zerker ellies or siege behind the wall, these guys will be slaughtered quickly as well as their siege destroyed. Once in a well timed instance I managed to catch a zerg off-guard with a superior arrow cart from a hill behind them, and with supportive catapult siege from another direction we managed to kill… basically the whole zerg. I don’t know how many had died, but after the ordeal I had maxed out my sigil of corruption and made about a gold from the loot.

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Posted by: Quells.2498

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That was just silly to watch, haha. I’m not so sure I could pull that off in T2. I envy those numbers though. I’m a complete zerg support build (near constant blind/chill/weakness.)

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Posted by: Sororita.3465

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That was just silly to watch, haha. I’m not so sure I could pull that off in T2. I envy those numbers though. I’m a complete zerg support build (near constant blind/chill/weakness.)

Welcome to the lower tiers, come do what ever you want and have fun, only requirement is you must be a good forum warrior, that i need to improve on =p

If the only weapon you’re using is the staff, I’d definitely recommend -10 from Soul Reaping and +10 into Death magic for the Staff Recharge rate. Since the big damage is in staff is from Putrid Mark and Chillblains, getting those as quickly as possible would be well worth losing the 5% loss in damage from high LF (not sure how often you use DS so it might not be worth losing Close to death). I’m figuring that the limited recharge on most DS skills is going to make it so the only thing lost from using Close to Death is the high retaliation uptime, but with the recent retaliation nerf that isn’t as useful as it was before.

Im usually switching out to my dagger/focus when i get close, in the video i just wanted to demonstrate the kind of aoe burst a necro can deal out, seeming i couldnt find any videos myself ( probably didnt look that hard). I can see what you’re saying with the reduced CD on Staff skills but i wouldnt give up my retaliation for anything, it does come in handy in a pinch. Since the video im now running bloodlust sigil and the sigil that gives a 10% chance on crit to gain swiftness, staff+ well bombing then quickly going to dagger + sigil to quick cap is awesome =D

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Posted by: Luimes.4281

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I used something similair and now fully changed to this with chill on blind etc. Its amazing i love it

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Posted by: vicious.5683

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Not sure if you’re necro or identity crisis elementalist

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Posted by: Sororita.3465

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Not sure if you’re necro or identity crisis elementalist

I…I….im now white and grey if that helps >.>

or heres an old picture…tell me you wouldnt be scared in the eternal JP.

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