Guild Wars 2

As the title says and assuming MH weapon is dagger.

Just curious which people feel is the most potent and why.

This is a contentious topic, but I’ll give my opinion

#1: Warhorn, for the aoe daze + locust swarm’s sticking power
#2: Focus, if traited the #4 ability hits very hard and the #5 chill is nice in certain situations
#3: Dagger OH, would be much better if #4 transferred three conditions like it states (currently it only transfers one per hit? could be a tooltip error).

edit: you should specify if you’re talking about pvp or pve. The warhorn is not very good in pve

Theoretically the Focus is meant for Power build according to the trait builds. Focus recharge is in the Spite tree.

Problem lies in the fact Focus 4/5 direct damage is low, and Focus 5 cast time is absolutely kittendedly long.

Dagger OH is meant for condition builds straight up. And unless you’re a melee conditionancer or actual conditionmancer it isnt good for melee.

Warhorn is the best currently for melee power specs, the swarm is best for sticking next to people and the daze is good for interrupting heals and other big casts.

And yes, I’m talking pvp.

my bad. topic is in regard to pvp

so far my thoughts agree with both of yours

any other thoughts, power necros?

When traited, the warhorn applies 2 seconds of cripple per second, for 13 seconds (without investment in condition duration) with a 25.5 second CD, making it theoretically (but unlikely) possible to apply perm cripple, but it reality, it just makes it extremely difficult to shake you off.

The daze has a very wide cone of effect, and although the cast time is a little long, it can still be used to interrupt heals and other long cast skills quite nicely.

I think pistol OH is strong for dps bui….oh wait.

I’m partial to warhorn for pve and pvp. Swiftness for scooting about and daze, aoe and life force gain on the locust with crits trait, cripple kite mobs/stick to players, yes please.

Focus isn’t bad either, if you want to stack vulnerability and more damage, but I usually pair it with axe if I’m going to go that route as an offset. Or if I really need the boon removal on focus 5 for some reason, I’ll switch it in.

I prefer the warhorn synergy with dagger MH, but if you’re a necro without focus 5 in pvp, you probably need to think about the role you’re trying to fill. Warhorn 4 can make up for it in the right team I guess.

The real answer is probably take both, use whichever is needed in each situation.

For WvW, Focus is arguably the best offhand for all specs.

My preference is focus or warhorn. Focus 4 is great for err…burst vulnerability, with well of suffering and a good dark pact.

For spvp i love to run focus as bunker builds are very prominent. Spinal shivers + well of corruption virtually nullifies those boon stacking builds. I find corrupt boon to still be unreliable at best. Reduced recharge on focus skills helps keep your opponents boons to a minimum. I think people underestimate the value of chill also. I believe it to be the most nasty condition out there and 6+ seconds of it is very nice.

I can see how warhorn would be great for sticking to targets with cripple from 5 but the wells build i run in spvp has about a 6 second gap for burst where i would find no use for a cripple. Daze is a daze useful but completely situational and deals no damage.

I guess it depends alot on your build. Personally i use both in spvp with my power wells spec. MH dagger with focus and OH axe with warhorn. WvW i cant speculate on i tend to avoid that cluster kitten.

the focus is great for power builds. It applies vulnerability as well as quickly recovering your life force. (death shroud heavily favors stacked power).

I like focus alot in spvp and tpvp. In WvW I warhorn for the speed boost

Warhorn in WvW i think is a must, perm-swiftness is too good to pass up and the Daze is deadly if you hit a zerg head on (such as them bursting through the gate)

Focus is what i use in SPvP & TPvP, chill is a brilliant non-CC CC skill that comes of cooldown fairly quick when traited and Reaper’s Touch 9 vulnerability stack + 9% LF can really Tip fights.

Warhorn is the best OH for WvW, PvE and PvP only. For other modes it kinda sucks.

The Aoe Daze which you can use while moving so you can cover a larger area than your blow is a great interrupt for a lot of attacks and opens up for a lot of attacks.

The perm-swiftness and cripple is just too good. Catch up to enemies and stop them running away. What else could you want?