Guild Wars 2

Mostly 1v1 fights and sometimes 1v2, 1v3. Right now I have well of suffering, pain inverter, and spectral walk. Pain inverter is a free win against warriors, thieves, and rangers. Well of suffering I use when daze players with warhorn 4 and beat them down with dagger 1. Spectral walk is for perma swiftness with warhorn 5. I’m kinda dead set on spectral walk and pain inverter but I feel like there is a more useful utility than well of suffering. Any suggestions? Remember this is for roaming 1v1’s where DPS is almost always more superior to survival.

it would help to know your build to suggest better utilities.
Pain inverter is a racial skill and is kind of a wild card. As for sources of retaliation, there are better ways to trigger it.

Spectral Walk is one of those beloved utils for perma-swiftness which is invaluable in WvW since getting from point to point is really important. Since you said you’re carrying well of suffering i must assume you’re running a power build so perhaps use Well of darkness instead of pain inverter? If you have chilling blindness which is curses10 trait, it proves to be a fantastic AoE cruncher against those that like to close in and harass you. otherwise, you can put in spectral grasp for an interrupt+ grabber skill or even corrupt boon to take out those pesky mesmers that heal and bubble up on boons.

Oh sorry. I’m 30/0/20/0/20. With mostly Carrion armor that has power / vit / cond. Yes pain inverter is a racial, yes, but it’s invaluable. The confusion is more important than the retaliation. It does 2100 damage for every skill they use over the next 5 seconds! For thieves, that’s their entire health pool.

Haha, that’s a funny way to backhand thieves in the face, but may I ask why you use Carrion armor if you’ve got points in spite? Carrion armor’s major bonus goes to Condition damage and for spite+wells you’re better off running with Knights armor or even Berserkers… heck, even rampagers with precision as the main bonus

edit: I think your math on confusion might be off, with ~900 condition damage it’s going to be hitting for around 290~ per skill use…

You’re building a very split necromancer, running with condition gear and traiting for power as well as using power centric utilities.

Envy.6902:

Oh sorry. I’m 30/0/20/0/20. With mostly Carrion armor that has power / vit / cond. Yes pain inverter is a racial, yes, but it’s invaluable. The confusion is more important than the retaliation. It does 2100 damage for every skill they use over the next 5 seconds! For thieves, that’s their entire health pool.

How many stacks of Confusion does PI stack?

Spectral walk and corrupt boon are invaluable. Spectral Walk gives necros the mobility they need in WvW. Corrupt boon serves as a disable which gives you the edge over who you’re fighting. In larger and clustered fights, you may remove spectral walk for epidemic. Corrupt boon + epidemic is extremely underrated. Well of corruption only removes 1 boon per pulse and that’s why I use corrupt boon. For the 3rd utility, you might want to pick well of darkness or well of suffering depending on what build you’re using.

But the thing is, going for a pure corruption/well/spectral in utility doesn’t grant you that much usefulness in actual dog fights.

Kreo.6532:

Spectral walk and corrupt boon are invaluable. Spectral Walk gives necros the mobility they need in WvW. Corrupt boon serves as a disable which gives you the edge over who you’re fighting. In larger and clustered fights, you may remove spectral walk for epidemic. Corrupt boon + epidemic is extremely underrated. Well of corruption only removes 1 boon per pulse and that’s why I use corrupt boon. For the 3rd utility, you might want to pick well of darkness or well of suffering depending on what build you’re using.

But the thing is, going for a pure corruption/well/spectral in utility doesn’t grant you that much usefulness in actual dog fights.

I use Corrupt Boon, Epidemic, and SW for almost all aspects of WvW. I occasionally swap SW for WoP if I’m certain I’m not going to be moving. I’d also start using CPC pretty frequently when they fix it, hopefully this weekend.

@kreo – it does 3 stacks of confusion and each stack does ~850 per skill use. Unless I understand it wrong? All I know is that when I use it on a thief they go down in 2-3 seconds.

Also, is corrupt boon really that good? I like having utilities with lower cooldowns.

Envy.6902:

@kreo – it does 3 stacks of confusion and each stack does ~850 per skill use. Unless I understand it wrong? All I know is that when I use it on a thief they go down in 2-3 seconds.

3 stacks of confusion is just around 1000 total damage per activation (330 per stack) with around 1500-1600 condition damage.

I’m quite certain of this because not only do I have a confusion Mesmer with similar condition damage, I also use Corrupt Boon specifically on players with Retaliation, as it gives exactly 3 stacks of confusion.

Also, is corrupt boon really that good? I like having utilities with lower cooldowns.

Its only 40 seconds untraited, 32 seconds with the trait – which I would suggest getting for any WvW condition Necro utilizing CB and Epidemic.

I like CB in WvW because most of the AoE abilities are ground targeted and often get only one tick off on a target. I’d probably consider adding CPC if they fix the durations on them (currently 5/5 instead of 5/10, and neither is affected by condition duration buffs).

With a 12s Epidemic, I don’t ever really need to ‘wait’ for that one enemy with 8 conditions — if I want to spread 8s of Chill, I’ll just hit them with Spinal Shivers and transfer that and whatever is on the target. I pretty much never have a target loaded up with conditions and Epidemic sitting on cooldown.