Best way to get Cond/Prec/Tough Exotics?

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Posted by: Mackster.9726

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What is the fastest or easiest way to get Exotics with Cond/Prec/Tough stats? According to the wiki, the dungeon armors from CM, TA, HotW, and Arah all have these stats as an option. Which of these dungeons have explorable paths that can be completed by a PUG? I hear TA is pretty easy, but I hate the look of the armor (looks ridiculous on a Charr). I like the look of the HotW and Arah Armor, but I’m having trouble finding a group to even do the story mode on HotW and I hear that Arah EM is pretty tough.

If there are better sources of this set of stats, please let me know. The only thing I don’t want to do is simply buy a bunch of gems and purchase them on the trading post. I want to try and “earn” them.

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Posted by: alanis.6094

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You can get Helm, Shoulders, Legs, and Gloves from the temple Karma vendors in Orr lands.

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Posted by: Sparda.9750

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yeah.. with karma or by dungeons.. your choice!!

yeah.. with karma or by dungeons.. your choice!!do u know if a dagger like this does exist??
i crafted by the forse the sceptor and i found the staff at the trading post ( 3g) but no idea about dagger..

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Posted by: Aziff.3248

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http://www.guildhead.com/item/26150/malefacterym-of-blood

Looks pretty good too, so you don’t have bother about skin later.

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Posted by: Endymion.6180

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There is a dagger, the Malefacterym, and a there is also a wand: the mystic wand. Both thosw items csn be usually bought in the trading post for a kitten load of golds. I don’t really know but since they are so expensive I’ m guessing that those are random world drop or mystic forge random creations.
It sucks really bad that our best set is one of the hardest to obtain compared with most of other classes.
The only other way is to get TA prec/toug/cond weapons.

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Posted by: Hufflepuffer.4201

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What is the point of precision for a condition build?

Genuine question

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Posted by: Wayfarer.2051

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First the extra Bleeding von Barbed Precission and extra Healing from Vampiric Precission.

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Posted by: Aziff.3248

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For example crits triggers Barbed Precision and Sigil of Earth, so you’re able to stack a lot of bleeds in few seconds. Best set of stats for conditionmancer, no doubt.

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Posted by: Avalanzhe.5761

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HotW set seems ok with me, just started days ago and I already got 4/6 parts of the set.

and for a Charr, HotW looks better than CM’s or TA’s imo, but probably I’ll be transmuting the HotW helm to my berserker’s acolyte.

Then gonna get more HotW token and start to go for CM and TA as I need to have 4 weapon that has that stat combination.

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Posted by: Kisses.1054

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Why does appearance matter if u can just transmute and you’re after stats.
TA is the fastest.
HOTW is stupid slow since teh bosses have a lot of hp and toughness. However there is a secret way to make it go a lot faster (which most pug groups probably know of if u dont).
Just run them both if u are rly desperate.

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Posted by: Hitchhiker.9251

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So u use sigil of earth in sceptor and in the staff, what sigil do you use in the dagger offhand? … Also what upgrades do u use in the armor? Looks like we want rabid runes in the accessories. Just got my necro 80 and been running around in mf gear but i need real gear lol. So gear wise we want the orr karma or whatever has the stats from dungeon vendors. I have 250k karma so will just do karma gear for now if the stats are the same as dungeon gear.

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Posted by: alanis.6094

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Frankly, you can get enough “Rabid” gear from Armor and Weapons that you don’t need to be running around with greens/rares in your jewelry. Just use Carrions.

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Posted by: Sparda.9750

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so.. ta is pretty slow.. i’m sure that i’ll have to do more practice.. but, wich is the easiest path??
anyway, from the orr’s karma vendors u can buy 4/6 of armor set.. the scepter can be easy craft by the forge.
the staff, the dagger and the last 2 pieces of the armor can be buy from the dungeon’s vendor in LA..
the sigils are: 2 superior of earth for the main weapons and superior sigil of curroption for the off-weapon
the runes: probably 2 choice: 2 afflicted, 2 lyssa and 2 krait, or 3 afflicted and 3 krait.. i prefer first one

so.. ta is pretty slow.. i’m sure that i’ll have to do more practice.. but, wich is the easiest path??
anyway, from the orr’s karma vendors u can buy 4/6 of armor set.. the scepter can be easy craft by the forge.
the staff, the dagger and the last 2 pieces of the armor can be buy from the dungeon’s vendor in LA..
the sigils are: 2 superior of earth for the main weapons and superior sigil of curroption for the off-weapon
the runes: probably 2 choice: 2 afflicted, 2 lyssa and 2 krait, or 3 afflicted and 3 krait.. i prefer first onethe problem are the jewels.. i remember pretty well that rare set can be buy from some karma vendors in orr.. but for exotic set.. donno..
i wanna try the 2 or 3 carrion jewels and 2 or 3 condi/precision/power jewels..

so.. ta is pretty slow.. i’m sure that i’ll have to do more practice.. but, wich is the easiest path??
anyway, from the orr’s karma vendors u can buy 4/6 of armor set.. the scepter can be easy craft by the forge.
the staff, the dagger and the last 2 pieces of the armor can be buy from the dungeon’s vendor in LA..
the sigils are: 2 superior of earth for the main weapons and superior sigil of curroption for the off-weapon
the runes: probably 2 choice: 2 afflicted, 2 lyssa and 2 krait, or 3 afflicted and 3 krait.. i prefer first onethe problem are the jewels.. i remember pretty well that rare set can be buy from some karma vendors in orr.. but for exotic set.. donno..
i wanna try the 2 or 3 carrion jewels and 2 or 3 condi/precision/power jewels..any suggestions??

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Posted by: Sparda.9750

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donno how is been duplicated >_>

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Posted by: jalmari.3906

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Karma vendors at Orr temples are easiest way but those don’t have all pieces.

TA dungeon has nice runes, I like whole set. Except I am not fond of TA skins.

CM and HotW also have prec/tough/cond. However runes are not so nice I think.

(Just copy skins you like on items of course)

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Posted by: Sparda.9750

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the orr’s karma vendors haven’t shoes and chest..
and i’ farming TA cause i like very much skin.. not helm of course

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Posted by: Aziff.3248

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So u use sigil of earth in sceptor and in the staff, what sigil do you use in the dagger offhand? … Also what upgrades do u use in the armor? Looks like we want rabid runes in the accessories. Just got my necro 80 and been running around in mf gear but i need real gear lol. So gear wise we want the orr karma or whatever has the stats from dungeon vendors. I have 250k karma so will just do karma gear for now if the stats are the same as dungeon gear.

I have sigil of earth on scepter, geomancy on staff and corruption on dagger. 6/6 Rune of the Undead is my choice for armor. Longer bleeds are good, but i prefer more damage from them and better survivability, all depends on your playstyle.

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Posted by: lcpdragonslayer.7895

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I got the entire TA set and proceeded to transmute everything because, well. I think the skin looks nice on female characters but looks more like a drag queen outfit on males. And I guess you would look kind of ridiculous as a Charr dressed up like a flower.

The easiest path for TA is Up/Up. I think Forward/Forward is medium, made easier if your team can kite well (basically if you happen to have a thief who knows how to use scorpion wire or whatever it’s called, you’re all set) and Forward/Up is the hardest because in all the runs I’ve done, at least one person has died from the killer bees, Vevina is tough on first-time runners and the spiders at the final boss can be pretty brutal. The main things you have to watch out for in TA are the Volatile Blooms and the Nightmare Knights. The final boss is a piece of cake though; all paths lead to a stationary tree which you just have to watch and dodge as appropriate.

The easiest path on CM is the Butler path. The Seraph path can lead to a lot of headaches if your party isn’t familiar with how to scatter the barrels and the Asura path is a little tedious especially as party members can easily get lost around the mansion if you don’t move around together.

I have not done HotW or Arah so I can’t give you any advice about those. What I can say is that while I think CM is easier to run than TA, the TA set runes that give condition damage are more beneficial than the CM set which gives magic find.

You’ve probably chosen what you want to go with by now, but if you’re on an NA server I’m happy to run CM or TA with you =) TA isn’t very friendly to first-time runners (translation: expect to die often) and most PuGs I’ve been in have not been kind to first-time runners either. But as with any dungeon, once you know what’s coming next, it gets faster and you’ll die much less frequently.

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Posted by: Sparda.9750

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@lcpdragonslayer: thx u for suggestions!!
in the matter of fact the ta set remembers a drag queen.. >_> never thought about ahahah
but the chest is very cool!!
anyway, i’m on gandara.. so.. cannot run TA togheter

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Posted by: Ascii.9726

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Personally ive always found farming cursed shore for gold beat instance farming. Doing this route i took for my legendary was earning me 2-3 gold an hour which is more then enough to buy single pieces bit by bit from TP.

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Posted by: Sera.6539

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CM, TA, and HotW are all pretty simple and PUGable. The fastest path of HotW would definitely be 1, the other two are slow due to HP pools, and water combat.

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Posted by: alanis.6094

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The Vatlaaw’s set seems to be the cheapest Precision, Toughness, Condition Damage set at the moment at about 25 gold if bought straight up which is about 8 to 10 hours farming.

Necro’s can’t wear medium armor.

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Posted by: Zogyark.4597

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So what’s the deal with cond/prec/toughness gear, i see many people thinking it’s the best for a necro, why the toughness though? is it because of the staff traits or the undead rune that goes with it? I know that in PvE dungeons having too much toughness will cause mobs to aggro on you more.

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Posted by: alanis.6094

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So what’s the deal with cond/prec/toughness gear, i see many people thinking it’s the best for a necro, why the toughness though? is it because of the staff traits or the undead rune that goes with it? I know that in PvE dungeons having too much toughness will cause mobs to aggro on you more.

Because Toughness is the best defensive stat for Necro’s, and it is the only gear we have that has Condition Dmg and Toughness.

If there was Condition/Toughness/“any other stat”, you’d likely see that as the most popular.

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Posted by: Wayfarer.2051

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So what’s the deal with cond/prec/toughness gear, i see many people thinking it’s the best for a necro, why the toughness though? is it because of the staff traits or the undead rune that goes with it? I know that in PvE dungeons having too much toughness will cause mobs to aggro on you more.

I have to admit that Tough is a pretty good defensive stat, although I prefer Carrion sets with Vit.
It is just os pleasing to see a 2,3k Healthpool.
But then again, that Healthpool need sto be filled as well.