Guild Wars 2

Hey guys, I’m going to be streaming some MM gameplay with the new specializations while I work out builds and whatnot. Come join and watch my awful skills after having not really played in ages.

Are you using staff with MM now? I think a while ago you told me it wasn’t worth using with MM. What made you change your mind?

Grandmaster Lee.9568:

Are you using staff with MM now? I think a while ago you told me it wasn’t worth using with MM. What made you change your mind?

Axe being completely and utterly worthless.

May I shoot in on this one? Dude,if you spam EVERY corruption skill at the start of a fight you’re not using it properly. And plague in addition to that? What excactly are your goals lol? Just watched 5 seconds of stream where he did that

insaneseagull.7063:

May I shoot in on this one? Dude,if you spam EVERY corruption skill at the start of a fight you’re not using it properly. And plague in addition to that? What excactly are your goals lol? Just watched 5 seconds of stream where he did that

To see how fast he could kill himself, duh. The entire point is showing just how idiotic Corruption skills are now, which now include our formally most viable heal and only condition elite.

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

insaneseagull.7063:

May I shoot in on this one? Dude,if you spam EVERY corruption skill at the start of a fight you’re not using it properly. And plague in addition to that? What excactly are your goals lol? Just watched 5 seconds of stream where he did that

To see how fast he could kill himself, duh. The entire point is showing just how idiotic Corruption skills are now, which now include our formally most viable heal and only condition elite.

Tell me mate,in what scenario do you pop all your corruption skills INCLUDING PLAGUE at ONCE in a spvp format? Or in a wvw format?

Enlighten me on that tactic which you obviously abused to oblivion pre-patch.
Ofcourse it’s easy to kill yourself when you go in for it. DUH

Oh I think we played together not long ago.
Nvm you’re human.

Playing minion mancer as well right now, such cheese. Until mesmer drops a moa.

insaneseagull.7063:

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

insaneseagull.7063:

May I shoot in on this one? Dude,if you spam EVERY corruption skill at the start of a fight you’re not using it properly. And plague in addition to that? What excactly are your goals lol? Just watched 5 seconds of stream where he did that

To see how fast he could kill himself, duh. The entire point is showing just how idiotic Corruption skills are now, which now include our formally most viable heal and only condition elite.

Tell me mate,in what scenario do you pop all your corruption skills INCLUDING PLAGUE at ONCE in a spvp format? Or in a wvw format?

Enlighten me on that tactic which you obviously abused to oblivion pre-patch.
Ofcourse it’s easy to kill yourself when you go in for it. DUH

The point isn’t popping them all together, the point is on their own they already hurt you enough you become killfodder. And don’t come with tranfer or cleanse arguements, cause in plagueform you have neither. Also plague and consum,e conditions now make you stay permanent in combat, meaning reduced movement speed.

Halo.8976:

Oh I think we played together not long ago.
Nvm you’re human.

Playing minion mancer as well right now, such cheese. Until mesmer drops a moa.

Or Engineer.

Shiki.7148:

insaneseagull.7063:

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

insaneseagull.7063:

May I shoot in on this one? Dude,if you spam EVERY corruption skill at the start of a fight you’re not using it properly. And plague in addition to that? What excactly are your goals lol? Just watched 5 seconds of stream where he did that

To see how fast he could kill himself, duh. The entire point is showing just how idiotic Corruption skills are now, which now include our formally most viable heal and only condition elite.

Tell me mate,in what scenario do you pop all your corruption skills INCLUDING PLAGUE at ONCE in a spvp format? Or in a wvw format?

Enlighten me on that tactic which you obviously abused to oblivion pre-patch.
Ofcourse it’s easy to kill yourself when you go in for it. DUH

The point isn’t popping them all together, the point is on their own they already hurt you enough you become killfodder. And don’t come with tranfer or cleanse arguements, cause in plagueform you have neither. Also plague and consum,e conditions now make you stay permanent in combat, meaning reduced movement speed.

Halo.8976:

Oh I think we played together not long ago.
Nvm you’re human.

Playing minion mancer as well right now, such cheese. Until mesmer drops a moa.

Or Engineer.

Plague: Plague keeping you in combat is a no biggie. You don’t use it outside of it,do you? And if you do (lol) what do you gain from that?

CC: I just tested CC right now,the vuln. stack lasts for like 2 seconds. You get out of combat right after it’s gone,right after. So I can’t really see the problem behind us going into combat with it outside of actual combat when it lasts for like 2 seconds.

Transfers and cleanses,yes,I am coming with those. You should too if you decide to play corruption.

I also tested another thing right now with 1200 condi dmg:
Vuln from CC AND Epidemic resulted in 13 stacks which were gone in 2 seconds lol
7s poison from corrupt boon,740 dmg over 7 seconds. lol
13s bleed from BiP resulted in 2k dmg,253dmg per tick. lol

This is nothing,everything popped at once you lose around 2-3k hp. And not to mention that in a pvp scenario you are likely to have some regeneration or aoe healing from another source going on,mitigating that dmg if we were to think like that.

“Well,what if the condis you inflict on yourself stacks with the enemies condis?”
Transfer or Cleanse

Seriously,I really don’t see the issue here. I also tried it with MoC right now. You’d lose 8k health from it all IF YOU MOVE (because of torment). Again,I’ll just point to the obvious choice above ^

Getting bursted by a condi bomber in pvp? Wait till he is finished,pop a corruption skill or two for good measure and transfer it. Be it with weapons or traits or signets. Do it.

EDIT: Read your post a second time,if it isn’t about popping everything at once you’re doing less self harm anyway
And also,no,you don’t have condi cleanses in Plague form BUT you do have a kitten ton of extra hp and toughness. Meaning raw damage isn’t much of a problem nor is the condition damage because of the added health.

insaneseagull.7063:

Shiki.7148:

insaneseagull.7063:

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

insaneseagull.7063:

May I shoot in on this one? Dude,if you spam EVERY corruption skill at the start of a fight you’re not using it properly. And plague in addition to that? What excactly are your goals lol? Just watched 5 seconds of stream where he did that

To see how fast he could kill himself, duh. The entire point is showing just how idiotic Corruption skills are now, which now include our formally most viable heal and only condition elite.

Tell me mate,in what scenario do you pop all your corruption skills INCLUDING PLAGUE at ONCE in a spvp format? Or in a wvw format?

Enlighten me on that tactic which you obviously abused to oblivion pre-patch.
Ofcourse it’s easy to kill yourself when you go in for it. DUH

The point isn’t popping them all together, the point is on their own they already hurt you enough you become killfodder. And don’t come with tranfer or cleanse arguements, cause in plagueform you have neither. Also plague and consum,e conditions now make you stay permanent in combat, meaning reduced movement speed.

Halo.8976:

Oh I think we played together not long ago.
Nvm you’re human.

Playing minion mancer as well right now, such cheese. Until mesmer drops a moa.

Or Engineer.

Plague: Plague keeping you in combat is a no biggie. You don’t use it outside of it,do you? And if you do (lol) what do you gain from that?

CC: I just tested CC right now,the vuln. stack lasts for like 2 seconds. You get out of combat right after it’s gone,right after. So I can’t really see the problem behind us going into combat with it outside of actual combat when it lasts for like 2 seconds.

Transfers and cleanses,yes,I am coming with those. You should too if you decide to play corruption.

I also tested another thing right now with 1200 condi dmg:
Vuln from CC AND Epidemic resulted in 13 stacks which were gone in 2 seconds lol
7s poison from corrupt boon,740 dmg over 7 seconds. lol
13s bleed from BiP resulted in 2k dmg,253dmg per tick. lol

This is nothing,everything popped at once you lose around 2-3k hp. And not to mention that in a pvp scenario you are likely to have some regeneration or aoe healing from another source going on,mitigating that dmg if we were to think like that.

“Well,what if the condis you inflict on yourself stacks with the enemies condis?”
Transfer or Cleanse

Seriously,I really don’t see the issue here. I also tried it with MoC right now. You’d lose 8k health from it all IF YOU MOVE (because of torment). Again,I’ll just point to the obvious choice above ^

Getting bursted by a condi bomber in pvp? Wait till he is finished,pop a corruption skill or two for good measure and transfer it. Be it with weapons or traits or signets. Do it.

EDIT: Read your post a second time,if it isn’t about popping everything at once you’re doing less self harm anyway
And also,no,you don’t have condi cleanses in Plague form BUT you do have a kitten ton of extra hp and toughness. Meaning raw damage isn’t much of a problem nor is the condition damage because of the added health.

Only that you take 10% more damage after healing so you propably end with less hp 3 seconds after the heal than before healing. And even plague alone deals like 12-15k self damage, which means you pretty much do over 1/4 of the “work” of getting killed yourself and thus make it much easier for your opponents to kill you. It is literally worse than some racial elites now.

Shiki.7148:

insaneseagull.7063:

Shiki.7148:

insaneseagull.7063:

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

insaneseagull.7063:

May I shoot in on this one? Dude,if you spam EVERY corruption skill at the start of a fight you’re not using it properly. And plague in addition to that? What excactly are your goals lol? Just watched 5 seconds of stream where he did that

To see how fast he could kill himself, duh. The entire point is showing just how idiotic Corruption skills are now, which now include our formally most viable heal and only condition elite.

Tell me mate,in what scenario do you pop all your corruption skills INCLUDING PLAGUE at ONCE in a spvp format? Or in a wvw format?

Enlighten me on that tactic which you obviously abused to oblivion pre-patch.
Ofcourse it’s easy to kill yourself when you go in for it. DUH

The point isn’t popping them all together, the point is on their own they already hurt you enough you become killfodder. And don’t come with tranfer or cleanse arguements, cause in plagueform you have neither. Also plague and consum,e conditions now make you stay permanent in combat, meaning reduced movement speed.

Halo.8976:

Oh I think we played together not long ago.
Nvm you’re human.

Playing minion mancer as well right now, such cheese. Until mesmer drops a moa.

Or Engineer.

Plague: Plague keeping you in combat is a no biggie. You don’t use it outside of it,do you? And if you do (lol) what do you gain from that?

CC: I just tested CC right now,the vuln. stack lasts for like 2 seconds. You get out of combat right after it’s gone,right after. So I can’t really see the problem behind us going into combat with it outside of actual combat when it lasts for like 2 seconds.

Transfers and cleanses,yes,I am coming with those. You should too if you decide to play corruption.

I also tested another thing right now with 1200 condi dmg:
Vuln from CC AND Epidemic resulted in 13 stacks which were gone in 2 seconds lol
7s poison from corrupt boon,740 dmg over 7 seconds. lol
13s bleed from BiP resulted in 2k dmg,253dmg per tick. lol

This is nothing,everything popped at once you lose around 2-3k hp. And not to mention that in a pvp scenario you are likely to have some regeneration or aoe healing from another source going on,mitigating that dmg if we were to think like that.

“Well,what if the condis you inflict on yourself stacks with the enemies condis?”
Transfer or Cleanse

Seriously,I really don’t see the issue here. I also tried it with MoC right now. You’d lose 8k health from it all IF YOU MOVE (because of torment). Again,I’ll just point to the obvious choice above ^

Getting bursted by a condi bomber in pvp? Wait till he is finished,pop a corruption skill or two for good measure and transfer it. Be it with weapons or traits or signets. Do it.

EDIT: Read your post a second time,if it isn’t about popping everything at once you’re doing less self harm anyway
And also,no,you don’t have condi cleanses in Plague form BUT you do have a kitten ton of extra hp and toughness. Meaning raw damage isn’t much of a problem nor is the condition damage because of the added health.

Only that you take 10% more damage after healing so you propably end with less hp 3 seconds after the heal than before healing. And even plague alone deals like 12-15k self damage, which means you pretty much do over 1/4 of the “work” of getting killed yourself and thus make it much easier for your opponents to kill you. It is literally worse than some racial elites now.

That 12-15k dmg from plague is taken from the HP you get. Pop the corruption skills then heal yourself. Besides,2 seconds of vuln. is almost nothing. You have dodges,right? Besides,there’s always several other factors that’s coming into play like condi removals from lots of other sources than just yourself,mainly say a guardian.

I’m 100% sure Anet have teams testing these changes before release in lots of different scenarios,“what if we do that?” or “what happens if we do this?”….

insaneseagull.7063:

Shiki.7148:

insaneseagull.7063:

Shiki.7148:

insaneseagull.7063:

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

insaneseagull.7063:

May I shoot in on this one? Dude,if you spam EVERY corruption skill at the start of a fight you’re not using it properly. And plague in addition to that? What excactly are your goals lol? Just watched 5 seconds of stream where he did that

To see how fast he could kill himself, duh. The entire point is showing just how idiotic Corruption skills are now, which now include our formally most viable heal and only condition elite.

Tell me mate,in what scenario do you pop all your corruption skills INCLUDING PLAGUE at ONCE in a spvp format? Or in a wvw format?

Enlighten me on that tactic which you obviously abused to oblivion pre-patch.
Ofcourse it’s easy to kill yourself when you go in for it. DUH

The point isn’t popping them all together, the point is on their own they already hurt you enough you become killfodder. And don’t come with tranfer or cleanse arguements, cause in plagueform you have neither. Also plague and consum,e conditions now make you stay permanent in combat, meaning reduced movement speed.

Halo.8976:

Oh I think we played together not long ago.
Nvm you’re human.

Playing minion mancer as well right now, such cheese. Until mesmer drops a moa.

Or Engineer.

Plague: Plague keeping you in combat is a no biggie. You don’t use it outside of it,do you? And if you do (lol) what do you gain from that?

CC: I just tested CC right now,the vuln. stack lasts for like 2 seconds. You get out of combat right after it’s gone,right after. So I can’t really see the problem behind us going into combat with it outside of actual combat when it lasts for like 2 seconds.

Transfers and cleanses,yes,I am coming with those. You should too if you decide to play corruption.

I also tested another thing right now with 1200 condi dmg:
Vuln from CC AND Epidemic resulted in 13 stacks which were gone in 2 seconds lol
7s poison from corrupt boon,740 dmg over 7 seconds. lol
13s bleed from BiP resulted in 2k dmg,253dmg per tick. lol

This is nothing,everything popped at once you lose around 2-3k hp. And not to mention that in a pvp scenario you are likely to have some regeneration or aoe healing from another source going on,mitigating that dmg if we were to think like that.

“Well,what if the condis you inflict on yourself stacks with the enemies condis?”
Transfer or Cleanse

Seriously,I really don’t see the issue here. I also tried it with MoC right now. You’d lose 8k health from it all IF YOU MOVE (because of torment). Again,I’ll just point to the obvious choice above ^

Getting bursted by a condi bomber in pvp? Wait till he is finished,pop a corruption skill or two for good measure and transfer it. Be it with weapons or traits or signets. Do it.

EDIT: Read your post a second time,if it isn’t about popping everything at once you’re doing less self harm anyway
And also,no,you don’t have condi cleanses in Plague form BUT you do have a kitten ton of extra hp and toughness. Meaning raw damage isn’t much of a problem nor is the condition damage because of the added health.

Only that you take 10% more damage after healing so you propably end with less hp 3 seconds after the heal than before healing. And even plague alone deals like 12-15k self damage, which means you pretty much do over 1/4 of the “work” of getting killed yourself and thus make it much easier for your opponents to kill you. It is literally worse than some racial elites now.

That 12-15k dmg from plague is taken from the HP you get. Pop the corruption skills then heal yourself. Besides,2 seconds of vuln. is almost nothing. You have dodges,right? Besides,there’s always several other factors that’s coming into play like condi removals from lots of other sources than just yourself,mainly say a guardian.

I’m 100% sure Anet have teams testing these changes before release in lots of different scenarios,“what if we do that?” or “what happens if we do this?”….

Did you miss how you cannot heal yourself in plague and with MoC even allied healing is reduced cause you get additional self poisoning? And yes , its from the plague hp which is why i said around 1/4th. you have ~43k hp in plague, 15k of those you lose so you are left with ~27k and the rest can get bursted by any other class in the game.

Shiki.7148:

insaneseagull.7063:

Shiki.7148:

insaneseagull.7063:

Shiki.7148:

insaneseagull.7063:

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

insaneseagull.7063:

May I shoot in on this one? Dude,if you spam EVERY corruption skill at the start of a fight you’re not using it properly. And plague in addition to that? What excactly are your goals lol? Just watched 5 seconds of stream where he did that

To see how fast he could kill himself, duh. The entire point is showing just how idiotic Corruption skills are now, which now include our formally most viable heal and only condition elite.

Tell me mate,in what scenario do you pop all your corruption skills INCLUDING PLAGUE at ONCE in a spvp format? Or in a wvw format?

Enlighten me on that tactic which you obviously abused to oblivion pre-patch.
Ofcourse it’s easy to kill yourself when you go in for it. DUH

The point isn’t popping them all together, the point is on their own they already hurt you enough you become killfodder. And don’t come with tranfer or cleanse arguements, cause in plagueform you have neither. Also plague and consum,e conditions now make you stay permanent in combat, meaning reduced movement speed.

Halo.8976:

Oh I think we played together not long ago.
Nvm you’re human.

Playing minion mancer as well right now, such cheese. Until mesmer drops a moa.

Or Engineer.

Plague: Plague keeping you in combat is a no biggie. You don’t use it outside of it,do you? And if you do (lol) what do you gain from that?

CC: I just tested CC right now,the vuln. stack lasts for like 2 seconds. You get out of combat right after it’s gone,right after. So I can’t really see the problem behind us going into combat with it outside of actual combat when it lasts for like 2 seconds.

Transfers and cleanses,yes,I am coming with those. You should too if you decide to play corruption.

I also tested another thing right now with 1200 condi dmg:
Vuln from CC AND Epidemic resulted in 13 stacks which were gone in 2 seconds lol
7s poison from corrupt boon,740 dmg over 7 seconds. lol
13s bleed from BiP resulted in 2k dmg,253dmg per tick. lol

This is nothing,everything popped at once you lose around 2-3k hp. And not to mention that in a pvp scenario you are likely to have some regeneration or aoe healing from another source going on,mitigating that dmg if we were to think like that.

“Well,what if the condis you inflict on yourself stacks with the enemies condis?”
Transfer or Cleanse

Seriously,I really don’t see the issue here. I also tried it with MoC right now. You’d lose 8k health from it all IF YOU MOVE (because of torment). Again,I’ll just point to the obvious choice above ^

Getting bursted by a condi bomber in pvp? Wait till he is finished,pop a corruption skill or two for good measure and transfer it. Be it with weapons or traits or signets. Do it.

EDIT: Read your post a second time,if it isn’t about popping everything at once you’re doing less self harm anyway
And also,no,you don’t have condi cleanses in Plague form BUT you do have a kitten ton of extra hp and toughness. Meaning raw damage isn’t much of a problem nor is the condition damage because of the added health.

Only that you take 10% more damage after healing so you propably end with less hp 3 seconds after the heal than before healing. And even plague alone deals like 12-15k self damage, which means you pretty much do over 1/4 of the “work” of getting killed yourself and thus make it much easier for your opponents to kill you. It is literally worse than some racial elites now.

That 12-15k dmg from plague is taken from the HP you get. Pop the corruption skills then heal yourself. Besides,2 seconds of vuln. is almost nothing. You have dodges,right? Besides,there’s always several other factors that’s coming into play like condi removals from lots of other sources than just yourself,mainly say a guardian.

I’m 100% sure Anet have teams testing these changes before release in lots of different scenarios,“what if we do that?” or “what happens if we do this?”….

Did you miss how you cannot heal yourself in plague and with MoC even allied healing is reduced cause you get additional self poisoning? And yes , its from the plague hp which is why i said around 1/4th. you have ~43k hp in plague, 15k of those you lose so you are left with ~27k and the rest can get bursted by any other class in the game.

Plague sentence and corruption+heal sentence wasn’t meant to be read as one coherent sentence,apologies for my bad english. Was also supposed to be space between the two.

Pop the poison till’ last,it’s only 7 seconds anyway.

27k burst by a class? rofl.

insaneseagull.7063:

Plague sentence and corruption+heal sentence wasn’t meant to be read as one coherent sentence,apologies for my bad english. Was also supposed to be space between the two.

Pop the poison till’ last,it’s only 7 seconds anyway.

27k burst by a class? rofl.

Seen a pre-patch ele brusting someone? I’ve seen a Necro going from 25k hp to 0 in less than 5 seconds. Seen the new engi conditions with 3 skills in 3-4 seconds? They tick for more than 8k per second. thats 4 seconds and you are dead. While you are stuck in a form with no escape, defense, heal, condi transfer or anything. So no, plague is now completely useless, and while i love the particle effects of the transformation they seriously should have turned it into a well instead. TL;DR don’t take plague except to safe-stomp and then instantly leave plagueform again.

So no, corruptions aren’t useful at all. Especially with how much better traited Signets are. Self-might, corrupting 2 boons on every signet use AND 20% faster recharge ? Hell yeah, finally a GM trait that deserves its spot.

Shiki.7148:

insaneseagull.7063:

Plague sentence and corruption+heal sentence wasn’t meant to be read as one coherent sentence,apologies for my bad english. Was also supposed to be space between the two.

Pop the poison till’ last,it’s only 7 seconds anyway.

27k burst by a class? rofl.

Seen a pre-patch ele brusting someone? I’ve seen a Necro going from 25k hp to 0 in less than 5 seconds. Seen the new engi conditions with 3 skills in 3-4 seconds? They tick for more than 8k per second. thats 4 seconds and you are dead. While you are stuck in a form with no escape, defense, heal, condi transfer or anything. So no, plague is now completely useless, and while i love the particle effects of the transformation they seriously should have turned it into a well instead. TL;DR don’t take plague except to safe-stomp and then instantly leave plagueform again.

So no, corruptions aren’t useful at all. Especially with how much better traited Signets are. Self-might, corrupting 2 boons on every signet use AND 20% faster recharge ? Hell yeah, finally a GM trait that deserves its spot.

Eles can’t burst down 25k hp in one initial burst,close,but not possible. I haven’t seen the engie conditions being showcased but I felt them in spvp. I felt them tickle me as I passed them back at him again,he melted his own face off.

And with your arguments you’re always placing yourself in the worst possible scenarios. That’ll mostly only happen if you let it happen :P And I always place myself in the most favorable ones,I know. But inbetween best and worst there’s some kind of middle ground.

Point is,corruption isn’t as bad as people want to believe it is.

Grandmaster Lee.9568:

Are you using staff with MM now? I think a while ago you told me it wasn’t worth using with MM. What made you change your mind?

I played staff at the beginning, assuming that the buffs to it and nerfs to Axe Auto were enough. However, I still hate staff, honestly even more after the changes. Regen on Staff 2 is meaningless with the new BM minor, we’ve got plenty of poison with death nova, condi transfer can be covered with dagger OH, dagger OH also supplies bleeds for Blood Bond, and Reaper’s Mark can be covered by Wail of Doom. Axe just deals better damage overall, has boon removal, stuff like that. So I’ve stopped using it.

I’m in the process of updating the metabattle build now that I’m done streaming, and I might be streaming around the same time tomorrow. So metabattle will have the most recent version of my build so you guys can see what I was using. I was also using a condi/signet build Rym made which was really interesting.

Spite – mid/top/top
Curse – mid/bot/mid
Blood – bot/bot/bot
Rabid/Settler, Undead Runes, Scepter/Dagger or WH, Staff, geomancy/energy sigils, SoV, SoS, Plague Signet, Flesh Wurm, Plague/Flesh Golem

insaneseagull.7063:

Shiki.7148:

insaneseagull.7063:

Plague sentence and corruption+heal sentence wasn’t meant to be read as one coherent sentence,apologies for my bad english. Was also supposed to be space between the two.

Pop the poison till’ last,it’s only 7 seconds anyway.

27k burst by a class? rofl.

Seen a pre-patch ele brusting someone? I’ve seen a Necro going from 25k hp to 0 in less than 5 seconds. Seen the new engi conditions with 3 skills in 3-4 seconds? They tick for more than 8k per second. thats 4 seconds and you are dead. While you are stuck in a form with no escape, defense, heal, condi transfer or anything. So no, plague is now completely useless, and while i love the particle effects of the transformation they seriously should have turned it into a well instead. TL;DR don’t take plague except to safe-stomp and then instantly leave plagueform again.

So no, corruptions aren’t useful at all. Especially with how much better traited Signets are. Self-might, corrupting 2 boons on every signet use AND 20% faster recharge ? Hell yeah, finally a GM trait that deserves its spot.

Eles can’t burst down 25k hp in one initial burst,close,but not possible. I haven’t seen the engie conditions being showcased but I felt them in spvp. I felt them tickle me as I passed them back at him again,he melted his own face off.

And with your arguments you’re always placing yourself in the worst possible scenarios. That’ll mostly only happen if you let it happen :P And I always place myself in the most favorable ones,I know. But inbetween best and worst there’s some kind of middle ground.

Point is,corruption isn’t as bad as people want to believe it is.

Sure they cannot /joke

You are welcome.

I’m torn between staff vs. axe/dagger as my second weapon slot.

I’m used to the staff and like its longer range, but feel I can put out more single target pressure with the axe.

Bhawb you should stream more, that was fun to watch.

Shiki.7148:

insaneseagull.7063:

Shiki.7148:

insaneseagull.7063:

Plague sentence and corruption+heal sentence wasn’t meant to be read as one coherent sentence,apologies for my bad english. Was also supposed to be space between the two.

Pop the poison till’ last,it’s only 7 seconds anyway.

27k burst by a class? rofl.

Seen a pre-patch ele brusting someone? I’ve seen a Necro going from 25k hp to 0 in less than 5 seconds. Seen the new engi conditions with 3 skills in 3-4 seconds? They tick for more than 8k per second. thats 4 seconds and you are dead. While you are stuck in a form with no escape, defense, heal, condi transfer or anything. So no, plague is now completely useless, and while i love the particle effects of the transformation they seriously should have turned it into a well instead. TL;DR don’t take plague except to safe-stomp and then instantly leave plagueform again.

So no, corruptions aren’t useful at all. Especially with how much better traited Signets are. Self-might, corrupting 2 boons on every signet use AND 20% faster recharge ? Hell yeah, finally a GM trait that deserves its spot.

Eles can’t burst down 25k hp in one initial burst,close,but not possible. I haven’t seen the engie conditions being showcased but I felt them in spvp. I felt them tickle me as I passed them back at him again,he melted his own face off.

And with your arguments you’re always placing yourself in the worst possible scenarios. That’ll mostly only happen if you let it happen :P And I always place myself in the most favorable ones,I know. But inbetween best and worst there’s some kind of middle ground.

Point is,corruption isn’t as bad as people want to believe it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBG2MS0CueA

Sure they cannot /joke

You are welcome.

None of those enemies had 25k HP. Maybe the necro was close too it but I doubt that,prob 19k or something. I guess the rangers must’ve been zerker too since everyone went LB. And those D/D eles certainly did not have 25k HP.

Even if an ele can burst up to 25k with he will be;
A) extremely vulnerable rest of the fight if he can’t pull of his burst
B) A liability to the team if it isn’t premade and is all planned

So basically;
A) He almost killed you (?) and now he is dead
B) He killed you,he wasted his burst on you and now he is also quite likely dead

And how viable are those burst builds atm post-patch? Can they burst a “25k” as usual?

insaneseagull.7063:

Shiki.7148:

insaneseagull.7063:

Shiki.7148:

insaneseagull.7063:

Plague sentence and corruption+heal sentence wasn’t meant to be read as one coherent sentence,apologies for my bad english. Was also supposed to be space between the two.

Pop the poison till’ last,it’s only 7 seconds anyway.

27k burst by a class? rofl.

Seen a pre-patch ele brusting someone? I’ve seen a Necro going from 25k hp to 0 in less than 5 seconds. Seen the new engi conditions with 3 skills in 3-4 seconds? They tick for more than 8k per second. thats 4 seconds and you are dead. While you are stuck in a form with no escape, defense, heal, condi transfer or anything. So no, plague is now completely useless, and while i love the particle effects of the transformation they seriously should have turned it into a well instead. TL;DR don’t take plague except to safe-stomp and then instantly leave plagueform again.

So no, corruptions aren’t useful at all. Especially with how much better traited Signets are. Self-might, corrupting 2 boons on every signet use AND 20% faster recharge ? Hell yeah, finally a GM trait that deserves its spot.

Eles can’t burst down 25k hp in one initial burst,close,but not possible. I haven’t seen the engie conditions being showcased but I felt them in spvp. I felt them tickle me as I passed them back at him again,he melted his own face off.

And with your arguments you’re always placing yourself in the worst possible scenarios. That’ll mostly only happen if you let it happen :P And I always place myself in the most favorable ones,I know. But inbetween best and worst there’s some kind of middle ground.

Point is,corruption isn’t as bad as people want to believe it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBG2MS0CueA

Sure they cannot /joke

You are welcome.

None of those enemies had 25k HP. Maybe the necro was close too it but I doubt that,prob 19k or something. I guess the rangers must’ve been zerker too since everyone went LB. And those D/D eles certainly did not have 25k HP.

Even if an ele can burst up to 25k with he will be;
A) extremely vulnerable rest of the fight if he can’t pull of his burst
B) A liability to the team if it isn’t premade and is all planned

So basically;
A) He almost killed you (?) and now he is dead
B) He killed you,he wasted his burst on you and now he is also quite likely dead

And how viable are those burst builds atm post-patch? Can they burst a “25k” as usual?

And the ele didn’t even use half his skills in most cases. And yes, khe killed a necro from full hp and there is pretty much not a single necro build with less than 20k HP.

Roe.3679:

Bhawb you should stream more, that was fun to watch.

Planning on streaming more often, there is a good chance I’ll try to stream any time I’m planning on PvPing a bit that day, though it will generally be in the morning/afternoon PST so sorry to anyone who is outside those time zones (I play League at night with the SOAC guys).

Zin.6170:

I’m torn between staff vs. axe/dagger as my second weapon slot.

I’m used to the staff and like its longer range, but feel I can put out more single target pressure with the axe.

That’s pretty much the choice. Its mostly a preference deal, however I personally find that without axe there are a lot of fights I should have won that I didn’t, and honestly in my build I’m so tanky that its not like I ever need to fight at 1200 range.

Bhawb.7408:

Roe.3679:

Bhawb you should stream more, that was fun to watch.

Planning on streaming more often, there is a good chance I’ll try to stream any time I’m planning on PvPing a bit that day, though it will generally be in the morning/afternoon PST so sorry to anyone who is outside those time zones (I play League at night with the SOAC guys).

Zin.6170:

I’m torn between staff vs. axe/dagger as my second weapon slot.

I’m used to the staff and like its longer range, but feel I can put out more single target pressure with the axe.

That’s pretty much the choice. Its mostly a preference deal, however I personally find that without axe there are a lot of fights I should have won that I didn’t, and honestly in my build I’m so tanky that its not like I ever need to fight at 1200 range.

I basically agree now. I’ve tested it enough and feel the same way. Plus I can run D/H and A/D to keep my movement buff, I hate moving slow.

If you take Banshee’s Wail you can pick up perma swiftness, but yeah having Quickening Thirst up permanently if you choose that over Blood Bond (both totally viable) is really nice.

Bhawb, what do you think of rune of the privateer? Does the summon get all the stuff from our trait lines?

No, the only summons that get minion bonuses from trait lines are ones Necromancers can get on their own already (so Jagged Horrors from say Lich Runes will be supported by traits, but no other summons from Runes will).

Not a fan of Privateer runes. I’d generally suggest Pack runes, 5% DPS boost to you and your minions (slightly more but rounding), and the swiftness is a huge bonus to minions being able to stay on target. Other than those general power runes or defensive runes could work, Melandru gets a special note of mention. I’ll have to look over them a bit more next time around to see and test.

Zin.6170:

Bhawb, what do you think of rune of the privateer? Does the summon get all the stuff from our trait lines?

I use privateer runes! I feel noobish for it but it gives you one more creature to attack your target…even if it doesn’t get the buffs. I love my parrot. However bawb may be right in that there are better alternative. The might is nice tho too.

If you want a rune to use with a pet running around, I believe Ogre runes are the best.

If I can’t yell stuff randomly with Ogre runes, not really worth it.

Hey Bhawb how exactly does jagged horror summon work? Will it proc on the death of mesmer clones?

Zin.6170:

Hey Bhawb how exactly does jagged horror summon work? Will it proc on the death of mesmer clones?

I believe it only procs on Player death. Mesmer clones don’t proc any on-death stuff.