Guild Wars 2

I am curious about this, I am currently going down blood magic, pretty new to game but really like it so far. I’m D/D atm. Anyone have any tips or build ideas? Anything would help.

is this for PvE or PvP?

If you’re going d/d that’s actually a hybrid setup. I run a similar setup for PvE that goes something like this:
http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/necromancer/?5.0|8.1o.h15.8.1o.h9.0.0.0|7.1c.h2.d.1p.h4.0.0.0|1o.719.1o.719.1o.719.1o.719.1o.719.1o.719|1q.0.1o.0.1o.0.0.0.0.0.1c.0|a4.p27.0.u125.5|54.1|3r.3u.3x.43.4g|e

Only for mine I have no points in soul reaping and go 20 in spite (for the axe traits and or the DS retaliation and because sometimes I want to use the minion trait instead and run siphon minions) and only 20 in blood- the rest goes in death.

The runes are totally up to you though. Since I sometimes do run the Ds retaliation trait, I prefer more toughness, but honestly you could use any of the condition dmg based runes of your choice and do just fine.

My preferred method for it:
Open with blood is power, axe 3, then focus 4 to build some vulnerability stacks and get regen, then flash DS for fury and weapon swap and melee them with dagger for a bit and get some more bleed on crits in. Honestly that pretty much kills most open world mobs right there, but should they prove a little tougher, once they start hitting you some, dagger 5, dagger #3, fall back and heal with dagger #2 if needed and/or dagger 4 to get rid of any conditions (make sure you don’t need the conditions for more healing, if so use consume instead). Make sure to epidemic while the bleed stacks are still good if you need that aoe damage, otherwise it’s wasted. It’s not really even needed but it gives you more aoe. Assuming by now it’s still alive because it’s a vet or champ, simply repeat the process.

You can use DS more offensively if you want, but your single target dps will be lower. It’s better used purely for AoE and will actually crit pretty hard with DS 4 (just make sure to use DS5 before you hit 4) and proc some bleeds. This build is a little more on the glassy side but it rips through pretty much anything.

Nay of the Ether.8913:

is this for PvE or PvP?

PvE right now, I’m a baby necro.. PvP Iunno… not sure it wil be useful tho are some skills to slow targets etc.

Nay of the Ether.8913:

If you’re going d/d that’s actually a hybrid setup. I run a similar setup for PvE that goes something like this:
http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/necromancer/?5.0|8.1o.h15.8.1o.h9.0.0.0|7.1c.h2.d.1p.h4.0.0.0|1o.719.1o.719.1o.719.1o.719.1o.719.1o.719|1q.0.1o.0.1o.0.0.0.0.0.1c.0|a4.p27.0.u125.5|54.1|3r.3u.3x.43.4g|e

Only for mine I have no points in soul reaping and go 20 in spite (for the axe traits and or the DS retaliation and because sometimes I want to use the minion trait instead and run siphon minions) and only 20 in blood- the rest goes in death.

The runes are totally up to you though. Since I sometimes do run the Ds retaliation trait, I prefer more toughness, but honestly you could use any of the condition dmg based runes of your choice and do just fine.

Thank you, I’ll try this out. I’m just trying to find my place as a daggermancer in this crazy skritt world.

It’s not really any good for pvp, especially not for wvw. I suppose if you built your team around it, and changed out a few traits you could be a bunker buster but still not sure how effective it would be. This build I linked though will serve you for 90% of all pve content and would work fairly well in most dungeons too.

Dagger is a power build right?

right, but if you’re going dual daggers, it becomes a hybrid

So what stats should I use power and condition?

Power, precision, condition damage mostly. If you’re still low level, just focus on power and condition damage for now and get some runes with vitality on it.

Nay of the Ether.8913:

right, but if you’re going dual daggers, it becomes a hybrid

Not necessarily, dagger 4 is still useful for blinds and 5 is useful weakness.

RaspberryTurtle.9027:

Nay of the Ether.8913:

right, but if you’re going dual daggers, it becomes a hybrid

Not necessarily, dagger 4 is still useful for blinds and 5 is useful weakness.

Kinda… D/D is still the overall weakest D/x combo.

Nay of the Ether.8913:

If you’re going d/d that’s actually a hybrid setup. I run a similar setup for PvE that goes something like this:
http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/necromancer/?5.0|8.1o.h15.8.1o.h9.0.0.0|7.1c.h2.d.1p.h4.0.0.0|1o.719.1o.719.1o.719.1o.719.1o.719.1o.719|1q.0.1o.0.1o.0.0.0.0.0.1c.0|a4.p27.0.u125.5|54.1|3r.3u.3x.43.4g|e

Only for mine I have no points in soul reaping and go 20 in spite (for the axe traits and or the DS retaliation and because sometimes I want to use the minion trait instead and run siphon minions) and only 20 in blood- the rest goes in death.

The runes are totally up to you though. Since I sometimes do run the Ds retaliation trait, I prefer more toughness, but honestly you could use any of the condition dmg based runes of your choice and do just fine.

too low power for pve

… and seriously? 1k cond damage for a couple of bleeds? offhand dagger is useful for weakness, blind and transfer (but still as andele said; weakest offhand for MH dagger)

Sunshine.4680:

I am curious about this, I am currently going down blood magic, pretty new to game but really like it so far. I’m D/D atm. Anyone have any tips or build ideas? Anything would help.

Have a try using warhorn for you offhand, see what you think.

Linguistically Inept.6583:

Nay of the Ether.8913:

If you’re going d/d that’s actually a hybrid setup. I run a similar setup for PvE that goes something like this:
http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/necromancer/?5.0|8.1o.h15.8.1o.h9.0.0.0|7.1c.h2.d.1p.h4.0.0.0|1o.719.1o.719.1o.719.1o.719.1o.719.1o.719|1q.0.1o.0.1o.0.0.0.0.0.1c.0|a4.p27.0.u125.5|54.1|3r.3u.3x.43.4g|e

Only for mine I have no points in soul reaping and go 20 in spite (for the axe traits and or the DS retaliation and because sometimes I want to use the minion trait instead and run siphon minions) and only 20 in blood- the rest goes in death.

The runes are totally up to you though. Since I sometimes do run the Ds retaliation trait, I prefer more toughness, but honestly you could use any of the condition dmg based runes of your choice and do just fine.

too low power for pve

… and seriously? 1k cond damage for a couple of bleeds? offhand dagger is useful for weakness, blind and transfer (but still as andele said; weakest offhand for MH dagger)

Works just fine for me. And if you’re doing it right you can easily maintain 8 stacks of bleed which is just fine for a hybrid setup. Maybe you need to go re-read the traits again. If you want more power it no longer becomes a hybrid setup and you might as well just run cookie cutter power/well build instead

go 30/10/0/0/30 for DS abuse or 30/30/0/0/10. run with dagger + focus/horn. blood is power + well of suffering + signet of spite, elite as golem or leach form … for roming the map as for heal u can use summon blood fiend which transfer hp for each hit. as bonus it does dmg too.

Nay of the Ether.8913:

Linguistically Inept.6583:

Nay of the Ether.8913:

If you’re going d/d that’s actually a hybrid setup. I run a similar setup for PvE that goes something like this:
http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/necromancer/?5.0|8.1o.h15.8.1o.h9.0.0.0|7.1c.h2.d.1p.h4.0.0.0|1o.719.1o.719.1o.719.1o.719.1o.719.1o.719|1q.0.1o.0.1o.0.0.0.0.0.1c.0|a4.p27.0.u125.5|54.1|3r.3u.3x.43.4g|e

Only for mine I have no points in soul reaping and go 20 in spite (for the axe traits and or the DS retaliation and because sometimes I want to use the minion trait instead and run siphon minions) and only 20 in blood- the rest goes in death.

The runes are totally up to you though. Since I sometimes do run the Ds retaliation trait, I prefer more toughness, but honestly you could use any of the condition dmg based runes of your choice and do just fine.

too low power for pve

… and seriously? 1k cond damage for a couple of bleeds? offhand dagger is useful for weakness, blind and transfer (but still as andele said; weakest offhand for MH dagger)

Works just fine for me. And if you’re doing it right you can easily maintain 8 stacks of bleed which is just fine for a hybrid setup. Maybe you need to go re-read the traits again. If you want more power it no longer becomes a hybrid setup and you might as well just run cookie cutter power/well build instead

works fine… for you… dont suggest it like its good (8 bleeds is pitiful… i cba doing the maths with your cond damage but thats like 800 dps? yeh… power wouldnt be able to match that)

thats not a hybrid build… it fails at both conidition damage and power damage… its not even tanky (although tanky in pve is itself bad)

Nay of the Ether.8913:

right, but if you’re going dual daggers, it becomes a hybrid

no it doesn’t. offhand dagger provides condition transfer and weakness, still pretty good for a power build.

anyway i ran this on my necro because i wanted a life siphon build

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fQAQNBIRDbkRLZvTzSjfPRIVAbTP424EH0je9enB-jwxAYfBayRoJMAJvioxWOLiGruGTDTEVLFQ5CjA-e

i don’t run it anymore but it was fun for a while and surprisingly durable.

Honestly D/D is better suited to a PvP or WvW Powermancer. I run D/D + D/F in WvW and do quite well.

In PvE, however, you’ll get far more mileage out of D/Wh, even with a 30 Blood build. The procs on Wh #5 are excellent for siphon, and when coupled with Wells do quite a bit of damage.

The only time I’d run D/D in a PvE encounter is against a boss that hits with lots of ConD regularly. Otherwise, it’s too niche to try and maintain perma-weakness/blinds.

At low levels you can get away with playing around with various builds and not really see the weaknesses of them straight away.

Later on when you end up doing more content where you encounter bucket loads of CC, or heavy spike damage and just overall more intense situations the glaring weaknesses of duel daggers and the blood magic line show up. (ie. blinds don’t work on some mobs and such)

With practice though almost anything can be manageable of course but that is up to the individual.

I have been slowly working on a second Necro and playing around with the duel daggers and the blood magic trait lines in anticipation of the up coming adjustments Anet has hinted at/suggested. I just wanted to get comfortable with the current skills and the rotations before hand and I am eagerly awaiting the chance to see if my “Vampiric” Necro will have a place in this game or not.

One thing to keep in mind when you play this game; resetting your traits is very cheap overall. Do not feel like you have to stick with one build for everything forever. Gear can be costly but mostly from the cosmetic point of view, most basic sets can be obtained with a reasonable effort and transmuted later on if you want.

On my main Necro I have officially two sets of gear. I swap pieces in and out depending on what I want or need to do.

Sometimes you have to adapt to the content for the sake of yours and your teams enjoyment, but if you are not having any issues than it probably isn’t broken.

The Blood Magic trait line is getting overworked on 15th October as far as I know.

What is changing about it?

chefdiablo.6791:

On my main Necro I have officially two sets of gear. I swap pieces in and out depending on what I want or need to do.

I have four sets on my Necro. I like my particular toon so much I couldn’t be bothered to level others.

Sunshine.4680:

What is changing about it?

It’s set to have its ratios increased, as well as having several other vanilla siphons changed to scale with power and healing power. I’m not holding out any hope what so ever that it’s going to do anything significant for the Blood line. Max healing power produces 6 more healing per Vampiric tick now that it scales… Even if you’re doing Vampiric, Vampiric Precision, and Well Siphons, I fail to see how such minute scaling is going to increase the desirability of the trait line.

Which is sad. ’Cause I REALLY want to use the Blood line.