Guild Wars 2

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Warriors get a Boon Hate trait in the upcoming April 30th patch. Thieves will be able to “steal” boons.

Since Necros don’t have access to boons like other classes, should Boon Hate be a class mechanic for Necros?

Corrupt Boon…

I’m more worried of fighting a thief if he steals my Golem’s 18 seconds of stability from Charging.

Kiriakulos.1690:

I’m more worried of fighting a thief if he steals my Golem’s 18 seconds of stability from Charging.

…god I hope thats not possible.

Watch it happen Apollo.

As for Necro Boon Hate, Bhawb (maybe Bas? I’m too lazy to look up the response right now you two :P) rightfully reminded me that we not only have Corrupt Boon, but Well of Corruption, and Spinal Shivers, as well as the Chill of Death trait to proc Spinal Shivers automatically. We gots lots goin’ in the Boon Hate department… but the more the merrier.

By the way thieves were already able to steal boons by using the trait “Bountiful Theft”.

Apollo.7583:

Kiriakulos.1690:

I’m more worried of fighting a thief if he steals my Golem’s 18 seconds of stability from Charging.

…god I hope thats not possible.

well, usually stolen/corrupted boons are capped. but since they mentioned that a thief that steals 20 stacks of might actually gets all the 20 stacks of might, im afraid this will be uncapped and he gets the entire 18 scnds of stability then.

Boon hate will work like our trait “target the weak”, it’s going to boost the warriors direct damage against boon heavy classes.
We really don’t need that because corrupting and stripping them away is a lot stronger anyway.

The thief’s boon stealing will probably work similar to our boon-condition conversion. For example, if we corrupt 18 seconds of stability it will only turn into 1 second of fear.
Also there will probably be a specific order to which boon will be stolen first if the target has several boons at the same time.

I recall the devs saying they were looking at giving us more boon hate, just don’t ask me to quote it because I have no idea where it is. We already have the most boon hate in the game, but hell I’d be happy for more.

Bhawb.7408:

I recall the devs saying they were looking at giving us more boon hate, just don’t ask me to quote it because I have no idea where it is. We already have the most boon hate in the game, but hell I’d be happy for more.

Didnt they say that our Corrupt boon will be unblock-able in next patch too? This is the best part imo if so. I’ll take more boon removal or corrupts if they want tho

And Epidemic, yes.

The only thing we need tweaked to stay as the best boon hate profession would be corrupt boon’s cd reduced.

It may be a very powerful ability, but it’s still purely a counter skill, it’s meaningless if the enemy doesn’t have boons, as such I feel the cooldown is too big at 40 seconds.
This would also help since the rate in which boons are stacked far outmatches how fast we can remove or corrupt them.

Apollo.7583:

Bhawb.7408:

I recall the devs saying they were looking at giving us more boon hate, just don’t ask me to quote it because I have no idea where it is. We already have the most boon hate in the game, but hell I’d be happy for more.

Didnt they say that our Corrupt boon will be unblock-able in next patch too? This is the best part imo if so. I’ll take more boon removal or corrupts if they want tho

Even though it is unblockable I am holding judgement to see it it is actually going to work that much better. Right now CB is awesome when it works, which is at best half the time. Logically not being blocked it should be at least marginally better but atm even when it is not blocked or dodged I find it often does not fire correctly. A few weeks ago I was doing some limited testing and on a friend just standing right in front of me with boons on and doing nothing. CB would randomly have no effect. From what I personally saw I think its a LOS issue with uneven terrain but that is far from definitive.

kailin.4905:

Apollo.7583:

Bhawb.7408:

I recall the devs saying they were looking at giving us more boon hate, just don’t ask me to quote it because I have no idea where it is. We already have the most boon hate in the game, but hell I’d be happy for more.

Didnt they say that our Corrupt boon will be unblock-able in next patch too? This is the best part imo if so. I’ll take more boon removal or corrupts if they want tho

Even though it is unblockable I am holding judgement to see it it is actually going to work that much better. Right now CB is awesome when it works, which is at best half the time. Logically not being blocked it should be at least marginally better but atm even when it is not blocked or dodged I find it often does not fire correctly. A few weeks ago I was doing some limited testing and on a friend just standing right in front of me with boons on and doing nothing. CB would randomly have no effect. From what I personally saw I think its a LOS issue with uneven terrain but that is far from definitive.

I think it also has a flaw due to being a projectile (although fast) because projectiles seem to fly off in random directions sometimes. Ive had spectral grasp fly completely up and right on my screen even though the enemy is just straight in front of me.

Apollo.7583:

Corrupt Boon…

Because every necro should run corrupt boon, epidemic and signet of undeath…

Boon hate as an optional trait makes more sense to me then forcing utilities.

If you are having a lot of trouble with boons, and you aren’t using one of the 3 very accessible utilities we have to strip boons, then you can’t blame the devs.

We have this nice circle thingy that not only changes all their boons into conditions but it also does a bit of aoe damage! It’s a great first step in baking a zerg.

But don’t tell anyone, lest it gets nerfed.

Apollo.7583:

Corrupt Boon…

Who uses that?

Bhawb.7408:

If you are having a lot of trouble with boons, and you aren’t using one of the 3 very accessible utilities we have to strip boons, then you can’t blame the devs.

Funny to think the last 4 dev’s hunted down in-game (WvW) while playing, 3 where guardians, 1 was an elementalist… even game developers like playing on easy-mode
(I’m sure they where having fun until I turned up)

From what I can understand I can’t help imagining a scenario where Necro’s are going to be absolutely despised by those professions (apparently Warriors and thieves) on the same team who shall be given Boon hate… On corrupt boon “Yo, Stealin’ mah killz!!?!?!”

Ratphink.4751:

As for Necro Boon Hate, Bhawb (maybe Bas? I’m too lazy to look up the response right now you two :P) rightfully reminded me that we not only have Corrupt Boon, but Well of Corruption, and Spinal Shivers, as well as the Chill of Death trait to proc Spinal Shivers automatically. We gots lots goin’ in the Boon Hate department… but the more the merrier.

It used to be kind of a unique feature we had, well Mesmer a bit. Need boon classes taken care of, get a Necro. Now if a bunch of other profs are going to get similar stuff, they ought to give us a way to get some boons of our own more easily.

Thresher.3049:

Bhawb.7408:

If you are having a lot of trouble with boons, and you aren’t using one of the 3 very accessible utilities we have to strip boons, then you can’t blame the devs.

Funny to think the last 4 dev’s hunted down in-game (WvW) while playing, 3 where guardians, 1 was an elementalist… even game developers like playing on easy-mode
(I’m sure they where having fun until I turned up)

Don’t forget Peters on playing full signet warrior, now signets getting a big boost… Hopefully we see a dev playing a Necro soon, then we will know we might be getting somewhere.

Pendragon.8735:

Thresher.3049:

Bhawb.7408:

If you are having a lot of trouble with boons, and you aren’t using one of the 3 very accessible utilities we have to strip boons, then you can’t blame the devs.

Funny to think the last 4 dev’s hunted down in-game (WvW) while playing, 3 where guardians, 1 was an elementalist… even game developers like playing on easy-mode
(I’m sure they where having fun until I turned up)

Don’t forget Peters on playing full signet warrior, now signets getting a big boost… Hopefully we see a dev playing a Necro soon, then we will know we might be getting somewhere.

A dev playing Necro, lol that’ll be the day! Maybe it’s my impression but I’ve always strongly felt a certain contempt towards the Necro by the ArenaNet staff, as it they were forced to include it on release, up to the SoTG broadcast I’m sorry to say. Maybe they may be trying to help it but I doubt this will change, in my opinion.

Pendragon.8735:

It used to be kind of a unique feature we had, well Mesmer a bit. Need boon classes taken care of, get a Necro. Now if a bunch of other profs are going to get similar stuff, they ought to give us a way to get some boons of our own more easily.

Warriors are getting a boon-based version of our Target the Weak. That only increases their personal damage. Thieves can only steal one boon per S/D 3. If you really want boons taken care of, Necros (and to a lesser degree Mesmers) are still the only way to go; the other classes are really just getting personal mechanics.

Ezeriel.9574:

Apollo.7583:

Corrupt Boon…

Who uses that?

Any necro worth his salt if he’s condition. Stay bad