Guild Wars 2

⁴ Heal yourself for each condition you have. (No CD.)

⁵ Consume all conditions, add 1 second to plague form for each condition consumed. (15 second cooldown.)

The Plague Cloud is still a plague cloud, you should punish players for applying conditions to it.

Support. but I think 5 should be a 1 time use skill. Would be overpowered if we could spam it.

This would add a lot more strategic depth to Plague Form to be sure. At least concerning fun, this is a good suggestion.

Plague should apply all conditions by default, not remove your others skills (the duration and increase of attributes may be adjusted to avoid being OP).

Would be nice if it had other uses. Right now I just use it to get by players in WvW to get into contested keeps/towers.

Plague Form should gain strength from conditions, your a cloud if disease.

Currently you have no heal/no way to cure yourself in plague form, your pretty much a joke, and it does not last as long as most transformations and you have no way to escape.

It deserves attrition.

It is a defensive elite (near permanent poison, blind, and if traited, chill, for TWENTY seconds), and you can completely change fights with it; like an elite should. If you want to do damage, don’t use plague form, simple.

Bhawb.7408:

It is a defensive elite (near permanent poison, blind, and if traited, chill, for TWENTY seconds), and you can completely change fights with it; like an elite should. If you want to do damage, don’t use plague form, simple.

Uhh…

Question, what does anything suggested have to do with damage? (Did you reply in the wrong thread by actident?)

The damage wasn’t in direct response to OP but the other comments in the thread (plague form being a joke, plague form applying all conditions). I honestly think Necro elites are the very last things anyone should be looking at to make the class better.

Plague is like the O kitten button, it can get you to safety. it can also be used as a support ability to shut all the enemies down while your friends kill them

No. Plague already shuts down power damage hard, it’s stupid if you think you’re going to be essentially immune to all damage for 20 seconds.

Oblivion.8307:

No. Plague already shuts down power damage hard, it’s stupid if you think you’re going to be essentially immune to all damage for 20 seconds.

Your not immune to damage, the heal amount would heal for very little per condition, but its spammable, so you have to choose between that or your blinds.

Oblivion.8307:

No. Plague already shuts down power damage hard, it’s stupid if you think you’re going to be essentially immune to all damage for 20 seconds.

It shuts down your own damage too. Plague Form is a joke outside of Blindfreeze. Run away and spend those 20 seconds letting your CDs refresh.

One thing i did say before is that plague form should have a 4 or 5 button that actually rewards for swapping around types of plagues in fights (if on 5 then a confusion form would be cool but maybe overpowered) since in both pvp and wvwvw i never really saw necros outside plague of darkness if using plague form despite both the weakness and the bleed being ok.
A heal in plague form would be quite the insane thing just as increased form duration since it already is the transformation that can be used without fear on most encounters and probably redefine “ulitmate bunker” for pvp, especially since there is the chance that the right side of the bar might be unlocked for transformations in some future patch.

Sarrs.4831:

Oblivion.8307:

No. Plague already shuts down power damage hard, it’s stupid if you think you’re going to be essentially immune to all damage for 20 seconds.

It shuts down your own damage too. Plague Form is a joke outside of Blindfreeze. Run away and spend those 20 seconds letting your CDs refresh.

It’s a defensive utility, you pop it to not die, or delay your death. It gives you stupidly high amounts of toughness and vitality anyways aswell as blind spam. Immunity of conditions would make this overpowered. What do you think bunkers do on points? Deal damage? You effectively become a bunker/damage sponge for 20 seconds in plague form.

It would be cool for sure, but overpowered.

The only things that seem to be against the flavor of the elite are the abilities to strip our stability and immobolize. I proposed it before, add the npc trait unstoppable and make it not strippable. This guarantees we can use the elite properly at least.

Or even make “unstoppable” the 4th button option…

edit: making plague do more damage the more conditions you have on you would be cool too though, kind of a neat compromise.

4 sounds good but 5 seems a bit weak to me… I think instead it should be:

5. Kill all enemies instantly on the map and win 1000 internetz

Oblivion.8307:

Sarrs.4831:

Oblivion.8307:

No. Plague already shuts down power damage hard, it’s stupid if you think you’re going to be essentially immune to all damage for 20 seconds.

It shuts down your own damage too. Plague Form is a joke outside of Blindfreeze. Run away and spend those 20 seconds letting your CDs refresh.

It’s a defensive utility, you pop it to not die, or delay your death. It gives you stupidly high amounts of toughness and vitality anyways aswell as blind spam. Immunity of conditions would make this overpowered. What do you think bunkers do on points? Deal damage? You effectively become a bunker/damage sponge for 20 seconds in plague form.

Thats the POINT of Plague form, your not killing anyone in it, your a damage sponge.

It shuts down your own damage too. Plague Form is a joke outside of Blindfreeze. Run away and spend those 20 seconds letting your CDs refresh.
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blindfreeze, run away and survive , cd refresh and flat out be able to survive rediculous damage out loads……. exactly its very good at its purpuse. saying outside of that its a joke would be like saying outside of racing a race car is a joke

You can heal yourself pretty well with Vampiric traits while in Plauge. Add a sigil of blood on your weapon and omnomberrys and you’re set unless you get überfocused

Blindfreeze plauge is amazing at shutting down enemy zergs for your own group to kill them. Perma blind/chill/poison(lesshea) on 7 people, they arn’t going anywhere, healing for much at all, or hurting anyone^^

Edit: Don’t forget to drop your wells infront of you on your desired target, works well with their long cooldowns

I think maybe giving plague form a skill that removed all conditions from you and spreads them randomly to enemies in the area of effect, kind of like a watered down version of Epidemic but on yourself. Give it a decent cooldown like 15+ seconds, basically it would be a way to remove the slows and immobilizes that shut down plague form.
Even if it doesn’t transfer conditions, simply a way to remove slows and immobilize would be great. I personally LOVE plague for wvw, you can charge into the enemy zerg and really disrupt them, giving your team an edge. It’s also really weak in some situations since all anyone has to do is just slow you and walk away.