Guild Wars 2

Please change this conversion. No condition should convert to resistance.

Agreed

/15char

Honestly people it’s like 4 skills and one trait with 3 on engi.

How many nerfs do we deserve tim lol :P

Do not forget Guardian traited shouts convert 1 condition to boon. And Guardian’s Healing Breeze and one of the Tomes are going to be changed to shouts.

The only skill that you really have to watch is CoP. Everything else its a around a 1 in 5 or 1in 7 chance it will be converted, They have to take that master trait locking them out of others and it wastes a cooldown, if you corrupt it again then it goes back to chill and we have several corruption abilities most of which are on shorter cooldowns than their shouts.

Its actually not that big of a deal as OP makes out and we have counter play to the counterplay so no issue.

I don’t understand why Alacrity, the exact opposite of chill, wasn’t made a boon with conversions being between alacrity and chill. It makes no sense.

Whatever it will convert to but at the end of the day it come down to who has more conversion skills and who can apply faster. And go ask yourself who is that guy.

Bhawb.7408:

I don’t understand why Alacrity, the exact opposite of chill, wasn’t made a boon with conversions being between alacrity and chill. It makes no sense.

If that was to be the case it would have to be as widely accessible as chill is. Its not, which is why its an effect.

There is 1 phantasm that grants 1s of it and one well which grants 3s as long as you stand in it. Shatter skills do grant alacrity but only to the chronomancer.
Its easy to see why its an effect not a boon.

Quickness is a boon and isn’t widely accessible.

Bhawb.7408:

Quickness is a boon and isn’t widely accessible.

In comparison its far more accessible than alacrity and also on a wider range of classes where as alacrity is just on chronomancer. 6/9 Classes have access to quickness, some far more than others.

If other classes could generate alacrity or it came in higher durations i would agree but with the way it is i think its fine as an effect.

Malchior.1928:

How many nerfs do we deserve tim lol :P

As little as possible I suppose, but the thing is that I don’t see this conversion as a big threat to necro.
It’s an annoyance but I believe that engi can’t take elixer C without losing on elixer S or a kit which is far more dangerous. Transmute can easily be read. Contemplation of purity is a full cleanse so for 2 seconds you’re not losing much. Pure of voice (forgot that trait) is single boon for one so the chance is low it converts to resistance.The last one is well of power which is a necro skill.

Resistance kills all of our:

(1) “Active defense is debuffing”
(2) Condition Damage
(3) Makes players almost totally immune to our down state

Resistence is almost like Berzerker Stance. Its really strong. This conversion is bad.

And what about the reverse? Resistance seems really rare. We’re almost never going to get chills (necessary for all of the reaper’s minor traits) from converting boons.

Bhawb.7408:

I don’t understand why Alacrity, the exact opposite of chill, wasn’t made a boon with conversions being between alacrity and chill. It makes no sense.

So thief doesn’t steal it mesmers are scared already >.> and yeah access of it for some reason I feel this was very intended due to necro boon hate theme.

From chill to condition immunity? I don’t understand how that makes sense. I feel like Resistance needs to be very carefully controlled, and allowing a condition to be converted into it opens floodgates.

Strange.

Except now the more common condition-boon gives you resistance off of chill so not only do profession convert some conditions to boons, but they also can get additional immunity to conditions after that conversion.

Lol reaper seems to be being made to be weaker by the minute

Zetsumei.4975:

Lol reaper seems to be being made to be weaker by the minute

Pretty much.

Speaking of Resistance, I don’t remember if they mentioned if it would negate all condition effects or not. I do know know they said that you wouldn’t take damage from the damaging conditions, but lets say if you are blinded while also under resistance, will that next attack land anyway? Or if you are poisoned while under resistance, will you no longer suffer from the healing reduction? Things like this…

Jayce.5632:

Speaking of Resistance, I don’t remember if they mentioned if it would negate all condition effects or not. I do know know they said that you wouldn’t take damage from the damaging conditions, but lets say if you are blinded while also under resistance, will that next attack land anyway? Or if you are poisoned while under resistance, will you no longer suffer from the healing reduction? Things like this…

Resistance will temporarily negate the affected target of all effects caused by conditions

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Resistance

Pretty much kittens us hard, since alot of reaper stuff gives chill or spread chill, we are simply making the enemy IMMUNE by chilling them.

Kahrgan.7401:

Jayce.5632:

Speaking of Resistance, I don’t remember if they mentioned if it would negate all condition effects or not. I do know know they said that you wouldn’t take damage from the damaging conditions, but lets say if you are blinded while also under resistance, will that next attack land anyway? Or if you are poisoned while under resistance, will you no longer suffer from the healing reduction? Things like this…

Resistance will temporarily negate the affected target of all effects caused by conditions

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Resistance

Pretty much kittens us hard, since alot of reaper stuff gives chill or spread chill, we are simply making the enemy IMMUNE by chilling them.

To be fair, we could just corrupt resistance back into chill. But I do agree, it seems a little insane to make chill convert to…that.

Bhawb.7408:

Except now the more common condition-boon gives you resistance off of chill so not only do profession convert some conditions to boons, but they also can get additional immunity to conditions after that conversion.

I still think people are over reacting because the skills that turn conditions into boons are low in number. Only Classes can do it. Engi, Guard and Necro.

• Elixir C + Toss Elixir C
• Well of Power
• Contemplation of Purity
• Transmute
• Purity of Voice
• Fumigate

Only 2 of these guarantee its conversion. Purity of voice also has the downside of it mostly turns 1 condition into 3 boons ( coverts 1 and grants 2 ) giving you more targets for things to convert and decent counter play.

Don’t Lyssa Runes also convert conditions to boons?

That gives great access to boon conversion to anybody with a low cooldown elite.

TheLastNobody.8319:

To be fair, we could just corrupt resistance back into chill. But I do agree, it seems a little insane to make chill convert to…that.

Are you sure we can convert resistance back to chill, I got the feeling it is like “invul” and cant be stripped? If it can be then I agree, not a big deal.

Kilger.5490:

TheLastNobody.8319:

To be fair, we could just corrupt resistance back into chill. But I do agree, it seems a little insane to make chill convert to…that.

Are you sure we can convert resistance back to chill, I got the feeling it is like “invul” and cant be stripped? If it can be then I agree, not a big deal.

Yeah it’s a boon definitely corruptable, only immunity is against the conditions themselves.

Zetsumei.4975:

Kilger.5490:

TheLastNobody.8319:

To be fair, we could just corrupt resistance back into chill. But I do agree, it seems a little insane to make chill convert to…that.

Are you sure we can convert resistance back to chill, I got the feeling it is like “invul” and cant be stripped? If it can be then I agree, not a big deal.

Yeah it’s a boon definitely corruptable, only immunity is against the conditions themselves.

This makes me wonder, will they change berserker stance to instead use resistance?

TheLastNobody.8319:

Zetsumei.4975:

Kilger.5490:

TheLastNobody.8319:

To be fair, we could just corrupt resistance back into chill. But I do agree, it seems a little insane to make chill convert to…that.

Are you sure we can convert resistance back to chill, I got the feeling it is like “invul” and cant be stripped? If it can be then I agree, not a big deal.

Yeah it’s a boon definitely corruptable, only immunity is against the conditions themselves.

This makes me wonder, will they change berserker stance to instead use resistance?

They said they were unsure.

This sucks vs boon conversion classes, but most of those won’t be able to do this consistently. It does make Reaper look bad though. It’s like they’re curbstomping it with indirect nerfs to every one of its concepts.

nekretaal.6485:

Don’t Lyssa Runes also convert conditions to boons?

That gives great access to boon conversion to anybody with a low cooldown elite.

Ouch. Every 45 seconds converting chill stacks into resistance. However I assure you a thief with a 30 second chill becoming a 30 second alacrity is far worse.

It’s a double edge sword. Resistance has to convert to something in order to remove it through conversion. You could make it convert to blind and you will rarely have people getting that much resistance from a conversion. However that means that fury converts to chill, which is OP.

Daniel Handler.4816:

nekretaal.6485:

Don’t Lyssa Runes also convert conditions to boons?

That gives great access to boon conversion to anybody with a low cooldown elite.

Ouch. Every 45 seconds converting chill stacks into resistance. However I assure you a thief with a 30 second chill becoming a 30 second alacrity is far worse.

I think it just turns into the boon for the set duration not a copy of the duration. any length of chill turns into only 2s of resistance

Here is a simple suggestion to make soft cc on necro a lot better: make stealth a boon and revealed a condition.

Instead, they are giving to engis a trait that reveals on hit. Why? Because engi, I guess.

Tissitra.4153:

Here is a simple suggestion to make soft cc on necro a lot better: make stealth a boon and revealed a condition.

Instead, they are giving to engis a trait that reveals on hit. Why? Because engi, I guess.

That would be awesome, use axe 3 and boom, thieves, mesmers, Rangers in the area are revealed. So freakin awesome. I would laugh so hard at that.

Ahhhh, there you are, bam.

Again, this might not be a huge deal at the end of the day, but what exactly are they thinking with this change? What if you converted Bleeding into physical damage immunity? I mean, there are only a few abilities that do it, so no big deal, right?

It’s another case of a boon that I feel needs to be heavily moderated, but is going to slip its leash because of runes/etc. I just don’t get it.