Guild Wars 2

lets say all classes speced without duration and equal power condi damage..

What class is the best condition dealer atm?
Iow what class does the most condition damage in a 1 minute/30 second period?
because i am starting to doubt it’s the necro..

Does anyone know or has anyone tested this?

Believe it or not, necro. Other classes may be able to out-stack us, but they lack the variety of conditions that necros do. Then there is the god-mode skill for condition builds: Epidemic.

Warriors are a strong contender, though.

Dude, epidemic. No one have such thing.

You’re asking in a Necromancer sub-forum, what do you honestly think most people will answer?

Engineer does condis better than us, that’s the harsh reality.

In WvW right now, Warrior, Engineer and Theif are all do better damage than necromancer because of perplexity Runes.

I am pretty sure MESMER can max out condition damage to the highest level of anyone. If you are talking about raw stats. They have a 180 condition damage signet, and +200 I believe when wielding a scepter.

I won’t go into condition output, as that is completely situational around time you have to apply, number targets, type of targets, etc.

Rennoko.5731:

I am pretty sure MESMER can max out condition damage to the highest level of anyone. If you are talking about raw stats. They have a 180 condition damage signet, and +200 I believe when wielding a scepter.

I won’t go into condition output, as that is completely situational around time you have to apply, number targets, type of targets, etc.

I might argue that because of this, and what/how Mesmers can do their conditions, that they are arguably the best in PvE.

However, I think because of the way that PvP ends up working, Necromancers simply out-pace everyone. The raw number of conditions we can put out (theoretically every one in the game), and the fact that almost all of that can be done at 900 range, AoE, with fairly low CDs, and pretty limited telegraphing, just adds on.

Oh, and Epidemic. Anyone who doubts the almighty power of Epidemic needs to play a game with 2-3 Necros all with Epidemic.

While an engineer may be able to outstack bleeds, we don’t have epi, we don’t have anything remotely like spite signet, and we don’t have condi transfer.

Necro and Engineer.

In PvE condition duration > condition damage… it’s not about getting 25 stacks on the target at once, it’s about maintaining that 25 stacks… and having the 25 stacks on multiple targets.

Even at 2000 condition damage 25 stacks of bleeding does only 3575 DPS… unless you maintain that… and also spread it to let’s say 6 targets so you have 3575 x6… you damage is still meaningless…

Don’t be fooled thinking in PvE class X or Y can burst stack sooo fast… that means nothing, in PvE… what’s your sustain and how much can you spread it… that’s what you look for in condition damage in PvE.

Thanks for the responces, i shall become a conditionmancer again..

K U T M.4539:

While an engineer may be able to outstack bleeds

I really doubt that an Engineer could get more than maybe 15 bleeds with full bleed duration runes. Without them, maybe 10-12. At least with around 50% critchance, earth-sigil, bleeds on crit-trait, bleeds from explosives-trait and extra-grenade-trait, I couldn’t get more bleeds on the dummy in the mists than that. Spamming grenade-kit skills 2 and 1. Maybe I was just doing it wrong, though.

I’d say the strongest condition burst on single target goes to Necro and Warrior… with the difference that Necros will be way more glassy than a Warrior for that burst… but they can do it at range. In terms of AoE… of course epidemic. Epidemic is awesome. And Necro-only.