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Posted by: ArmageddonAsh.6430

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What are you guys and gals opinions on this?
I currently run 20/0/20/0/30 with mostly P/V/T gear and was thinking about moving 10 from Death Magic (Currently Death Shiver) into Smite to grab this Trait. I run a DS Power/toughness build and was wondering if you guys think it would be worth the swap…

Gain:

10% Condition duration – Means nothing I have Zero condition damage and no skills i use often have anything to do with bleeding, burning and such so this wouldnt be that huge. Might affect Cripple, Fear(?) and Vul though

100 Power – 100 power is 100 power.

Siphoned Power – Dunno about this one, kinda seems rather rubbish Might when you drop below 25% Meh especially for a 25point trait.

Close To Death – This is it, 20% extra damage with foes under 50% health seems very solid to me

Lose:

Toughness – currently i have 1,774 Toughness and 2,694Armor. Seems solid enough i dont really “melt” but i still do die, mostly to condition builds or Thieves with the constant spamming of stealth (and conditions depending on build)

Death Shiver – I quite like this i can stack nice amount of Vul when combined with Axe, DS auto (traited) and Well of Suffering. But 20% Damage increase is like 20 stacks of Vul

Boon Duration 10% loss, would take me down to 25% Seeing as i rarely have access to any outside of Swiftness and Retal i dont think i would miss this as much.

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Posted by: Bhawb.7408

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Yes.

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Posted by: ArmageddonAsh.6430

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Yes.

Yes!? That i SHOULD take it?

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Posted by: Dalanor.5387

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Yes.

Yes!? That i SHOULD take it?

Yes.

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Posted by: ArmageddonAsh.6430

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Yes.

Yes!? That i SHOULD take it?

Yes.

Okay, i will give it a try, thanks

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Posted by: Rym.1469

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One tip. If you want to play with shroud builds, trading some toughness into more vitality is a good move. Shroud builds benefit greatly from vitality and are able to regenerate LF pretty quickly, so your overall survability should rise. Take a look at valkyrie armor

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Posted by: ArmageddonAsh.6430

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One tip. If you want to play with shroud builds, trading some toughness into more vitality is a good move. Shroud builds benefit greatly from vitality and are able to regenerate LF pretty quickly, so your overall survability should rise. Take a look at valkyrie armor

with Close to Death stats now:

Toughness: 1,569
Vitality: 1,569
Health: 26,396
DeathShroud Health: 20,589

I move the final 10- points from Death Magic into and grabbed Reaper’s Precision to see how well it works. This alone has increased my Crit Chance to 21% with Perception i should reach 30%, maybe a bit more which would give me 80% Crit chance in DS

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Posted by: Muchacho.2390

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Close to death is a really good trait, but if you take it, i would prefer Zerker gear until you have around 50% crit chance then valkyrie gear. Reason being you want to always crit in death shroud. If you want to use more soldier gear i would go 10/30/0/0/30 and try to get a crit chance of 30% (which you can obtain easily in spvp and wvw/pve, precision runes and a zerker juwel (~75 precision) give the 30%).

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Posted by: ArmageddonAsh.6430

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Close to death is a really good trait, but if you take it, i would prefer Zerker gear until you have around 50% crit chance then valkyrie gear. Reason being you want to always crit in death shroud. If you want to use more soldier gear i would go 10/30/0/0/30 and try to get a crit chance of 30% (which you can obtain easily in spvp and wvw/pve, precision runes and a zerker juwel (~75 precision) give the 30%).

Yeah i am waiting to see what my Crit chance will be exactly once i have 25 stacks of Perception. I would rather not give up to much defense for a few % Crit Chance though

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Posted by: Muchacho.2390

Muchacho.2390

Close to death is a really good trait, but if you take it, i would prefer Zerker gear until you have around 50% crit chance then valkyrie gear. Reason being you want to always crit in death shroud. If you want to use more soldier gear i would go 10/30/0/0/30 and try to get a crit chance of 30% (which you can obtain easily in spvp and wvw/pve, precision runes and a zerker juwel (~75 precision) give the 30%).

Yeah i am waiting to see what my Crit chance will be exactly once i have 25 stacks of Perception. I would rather not give up to much defense for a few % Crit Chance though

A sorry i play mainly spvp at the moment i forgot that sigil did exist…
But 10/30/0/0/30 is still good as with 5 conditions on your opponent the 25 curse minor is as strong as close to death.

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Posted by: ArmageddonAsh.6430

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A sorry i play mainly spvp at the moment i forgot that sigil did exist…
But 10/30/0/0/30 is still good as with 5 conditions on your opponent the 25 curse minor is as strong as close to death.

The ONLY condition that gets applied (damaging wise) is Bleeding from the 5point trait. So i don’t think the trait would be as strong.

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Posted by: ArmageddonAsh.6430

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Close to death is a really good trait, but if you take it, i would prefer Zerker gear until you have around 50% crit chance then valkyrie gear. Reason being you want to always crit in death shroud. If you want to use more soldier gear i would go 10/30/0/0/30 and try to get a crit chance of 30% (which you can obtain easily in spvp and wvw/pve, precision runes and a zerker juwel (~75 precision) give the 30%).

I have 33% Crit Chance outside DS with 25stacks of perception. Any idea how much Precision i would need to get to 50% i think its 479 as 27 Precision = 1% as far as i know

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Posted by: Stand The Wall.6987

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So what is this being used for. I’m guessing for WvW. In that case, Stx.4857 has recently enlightened me.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fQAQNBmODbkRrbPbTcjfPhIz4a+F4DvH1j1pc+QA-j0CBYfBCjBmgAmsAgIAKBqIastBFRjVbDTDjIq2aeIaG0pWKgyVGB-w

Compared to what I have atm.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fQUQNBHhZakRrcPTzTjfPhA949qFnJqwwQ9wdWnPE-jUzAYrAiugIGQEEQqAQ2LiJwhsWBLiGriBTfmUlLgKOy+ElVZAW2CA-w

He has roughly the same amount of dps output via DS1 (with SoS) while having 500 more armor and base precision. I have a lot less armor, higher potential damage, and well utility.
You never want to stack precision in a damage dealing build. ~80% crit chance in DS is enough.

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Posted by: Muchacho.2390

Muchacho.2390

A sorry i play mainly spvp at the moment i forgot that sigil did exist…
But 10/30/0/0/30 is still good as with 5 conditions on your opponent the 25 curse minor is as strong as close to death.

The ONLY condition that gets applied (damaging wise) is Bleeding from the 5point trait. So i don’t think the trait would be as strong.

You know that trait affects all conditons and normally i can maintain 3-5 condtions even with a power build and the damage increase is for direct damage not condition damage.

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Posted by: ArmageddonAsh.6430

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You know that trait affects all conditons and normally i can maintain 3-5 condtions even with a power build and the damage increase is for direct damage not condition damage.

I run with Axe/Warhorn and Dagger/Focus.

Bleeding, Vul, Cripple, Chill, Torment thats all that i can inflict. So 10% All the time Vs 20% under 50% health. Wouldn’t that pretty much just even itself out?

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Posted by: Muchacho.2390

Muchacho.2390

You know that trait affects all conditons and normally i can maintain 3-5 condtions even with a power build and the damage increase is for direct damage not condition damage.

I run with Axe/Warhorn and Dagger/Focus.

Bleeding, Vul, Cripple, Chill, Torment thats all that i can inflict. So 10% All the time Vs 20% under 50% health. Wouldn’t that pretty much just even itself out?

Yes, but maybe you misunderstand me i dont think is better or worse than close to death but its really good in a powerbuild and a good alternative. I like it because i can go for a more defensive build (spectral skills are really nice) while still maintaining relative good damage.

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Posted by: ArmageddonAsh.6430

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Yes, but maybe you misunderstand me i dont think is better or worse than close to death but its really good in a powerbuild and a good alternative. I like it because i can go for a more defensive build (spectral skills are really nice) while still maintaining relative good damage.

I currently run with Well of Suffering, Spectral Armor and Spectral Grasp. My elite changes and pretty much use all of them on a daily basis, depending on the situation.

The problem i have is that i already have some VERY expensive Ascended accessories and dont really want to give them up otherwise it would be a waste seeing as how i can’t transfer them to another character or anything.

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Posted by: Muchacho.2390

Muchacho.2390

Yes, but maybe you misunderstand me i dont think is better or worse than close to death but its really good in a powerbuild and a good alternative. I like it because i can go for a more defensive build (spectral skills are really nice) while still maintaining relative good damage.

I currently run with Well of Suffering, Spectral Armor and Spectral Grasp. My elite changes and pretty much use all of them on a daily basis, depending on the situation.

The problem i have is that i already have some VERY expensive Ascended accessories and dont really want to give them up otherwise it would be a waste seeing as how i can’t transfer them to another character or anything.

Thats ok i only wanted to tell you that 10/30/0/0/30 is in my opnion a good alternative to 30/x/x/x/30, especially if you mainly use soldiers gear.

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Posted by: ArmageddonAsh.6430

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Mmmm, i could change some of my armor around a bit, especially if i go for P//T/V earrings as well, the only accessories that i have which arent Ascended yet.