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Posted by: Chaios.1065

Chaios.1065

This build is pretty dang good. Been testing, I can report very good things. This is not with the meta, most people are running 30/30/10/0/0 or something similar to that. It uses Staff as main hand weapon, with scepter/dagger off hand. These weapons are the best weapons in my opinion to use with condition build as a necromancer.
Traits are:
30 in Curses: picking up VI (Wells use ground targeting), VII (Corruption skills recharge 20% faster, there’s not much to pick up in the master tier), XI (Conditions inflicted by scepter skills last 33% longer).
now here is where the build varies from a lot of other builds.
20 in Death Magic: picking up II (Increases are of marks and marks become unblock able), V (Staff skills recharge 20% faster).
20 in Soul Reaping: picking up III (All death shroud skills recharge 15% faster), X (Marks generate 3% life force when triggered.).
For the Armor go full carrion. For this build Rabid is not as good, others may disagree but I feel carrion is better. 5/6 runes of the Undead, 1/6 runes of the Necromancer. For SPvP get Carrion Jewel, you can experiment with putting a rabid jewel inside of the carrion amulet. And for wvw you can try putting in some rabid jewels too.
For sigils: Put sigil of Superior Battle on the staff! The might stacks are very good. With the AoE of staff its almost pointless to put Superior sigil of Earth on this. Just trust me.

Put sigil of Superior Geomancy on Scepter, do NOT put Superior sigil of Earth on it, it will mess up Superior sigil of Battle on the staff if you do.

Put sigil of Superior Debility on your dagger.
For utility:
Heal should always be Consume Conditions on necromancer imo.

Well of Corruption needs to be taken, it can literally insta gib ele and guards.

Signet of Spite next, this can be changed but personally i feel this is very, very powerful for any condition build on necromancer. Plus the power is nice.

Blood is Power is taken next, it gives you so much might, and with sup sigil of battle the might is insane.

This build is very fun, go experiment with it. It takes practice to get good at it. Try making openings that seem good and go experiment! ive found opening with blood is power is super useful, then laying down scepter #2 and dagger #5 then #4 and then scepter #3 is super good, then switch to staff for extra might. Just keep making combos up!
-Chaios

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Posted by: TheMightyAltroll.3485

TheMightyAltroll.3485

Take a look at my Tormentor build in “The Mighty Altroll’s Mighty Metas”

I have already created something similar to your build, only mine is a bit more effective. And easier. Sorry :/

Might stacking is always inconsistent, and I dislike relying on it. However without being biased, I’ll take a look at your variation tomorrow.

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Posted by: Chaios.1065

Chaios.1065

Okay cool! Will take a look. This just fits my play style, I’m currently still working on it! And sorta new to necromancer but since the patch I’ve been doing a lot of research and so far this is the best new build I’ve come up with:)

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Posted by: Chesire.9043

Chesire.9043

That’s actually the build I was running since before the patch with a few differences.. Altroll listed it in his thread, but I won’t go so far as to call it my own creation. It was actually a conversation I had with Bhawb that got me on track with it anyway.

It’s a 0/30/20/0/20 chill/terror build. Taking Enfeebling Shroud, Terror, and Spectral Attunement. Greater Marks and Reaper’s Protection in Death Magic then taking Spectral Mastery and Soul Marks in Soul Reaping. This trait setup translates well over to WvW but Soul Marks isn’t needed so I use Master of Terror instead.

Runes are chill duration runes and sigils are Geomancy x2 and corruption. Utilities were Spectral Grasp, Wall, and would switch the third around for sPvP and WvW depending on the fight. Wall sometimes came off in WvW so I had room for Epi and Corrupt Boon, but Grasp has never come off my bar for anything else. Golem for the elite.

Best build I’ve come up with and I adore it.

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Posted by: TheMightyAltroll.3485

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That’s actually the build I was running since before the patch with a few differences.. Altroll listed it in his thread, but I won’t go so far as to call it my own creation. It was actually a conversation I had with Bhawb that got me on track with it anyway.

It’s a 0/30/20/0/20 chill/terror build. Taking Enfeebling Shroud, Terror, and Spectral Attunement. Greater Marks and Reaper’s Protection in Death Magic then taking Spectral Mastery and Soul Marks in Soul Reaping. This trait setup translates well over to WvW but Soul Marks isn’t needed so I use Master of Terror instead.

Runes are chill duration runes and sigils are Geomancy x2 and corruption. Utilities were Spectral Grasp, Wall, and would switch the third around for sPvP and WvW depending on the fight. Wall sometimes came off in WvW so I had room for Epi and Corrupt Boon, but Grasp has never come off my bar for anything else. Golem for the elite.

Best build I’ve come up with and I adore it.

With Paralyzation Sigils, Master of Terror, and Necro runes, you have an 85% fear duration, and postpatch you can actually get a nonsensical terror chain running with Spectral Wall, since utilizing chill, you can guide them in and out of the wall to refresh the duration. While they are eating Torment and bleeds from Weakening Shroud/Dark Path and poison from Chillblains. It’s very overpowered.

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Posted by: Chesire.9043

Chesire.9043

With Paralyzation Sigils, Master of Terror, and Necro runes, you have an 85% fear duration, and postpatch you can actually get a nonsensical terror chain running with Spectral Wall, since utilizing chill, you can guide them in and out of the wall to refresh the duration. While they are eating Torment and bleeds from Weakening Shroud/Dark Path and poison from Chillblains. It’s very overpowered.

Yeah I’ve thought of paralyzation runes but I I’m not sure I want to use them. I tried them when I first made the build but it just didn’t really seem to make a huge difference. That sounds insane though. I just don’t want to give up my chill duration so it doesn’t really do much else in sPvP for me to put on para runes if I am not capitalizing on the fear anywhere else. But in WvW this is a different story because of food.

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Posted by: Hanzo.9624

Hanzo.9624

I have already created something similar to your build, only mine is a bit more effective. And easier. Sorry :/

rofl. Wow. This guy.

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Posted by: TheMightyAltroll.3485

TheMightyAltroll.3485

It’s a resource. If someone already created something similar to my build, and it was much better, I generally would be interested to see it. I don’t care about beating someone to the punch line, I care about effectiveness. Stow your attitude about my attitude.

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Posted by: Monkey boy.1697

Monkey boy.1697

What accessories would you use in WvW for this guide?? Also what runes for the Armour. Pls someone answer my question Thank you.

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Posted by: Chaios.1065

Chaios.1065

What accessories would you use in WvW for this guide?? Also what runes for the Armour. Pls someone answer my question Thank you.

I would mix up your accessories with carrion and rabid. Try a split between the two:D I would go with 5/6 runes of the undead, and 1/6 runes on the necromancer!

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Posted by: Rennoko.5731

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What accessories would you use in WvW for this guide?? Also what runes for the Armour. Pls someone answer my question Thank you.

I would mix up your accessories with carrion and rabid. Try a split between the two:D I would go with 5/6 runes of the undead, and 1/6 runes on the necromancer!

Why on earth would you take 5/6 undead and not go for 6/6 undead?

Even at base toughness (around 1000), undead runes give 50 condition damage for the 6 bonus. That beats out nightmares 1 rune bonus by about 20.

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Posted by: flow.6043

flow.6043

What’s the point of having 1 rune of the Necromancer?

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Posted by: Pinkus.2860

Pinkus.2860

What accessories would you use in WvW for this guide?? Also what runes for the Armour. Pls someone answer my question Thank you.

I would mix up your accessories with carrion and rabid. Try a split between the two:D I would go with 5/6 runes of the undead, and 1/6 runes on the necromancer!

Why on earth would you take 5/6 undead and not go for 6/6 undead?

Even at base toughness (around 1000), undead runes give 50 condition damage for the 6 bonus. That beats out nightmares 1 rune bonus by about 20.

This is correct. Better off going for the 6 bonus.

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Posted by: Velron.3729

Velron.3729

Been running 30/20/10/0/10 with Rabid Amulet and Carrion jewel. Scepter/Focus and Staff. Absolutely disgusting damage. Seriously people don’t even get mad when I kill them in 4 seconds while they are feared, they just say stuff like “lol insane”

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Posted by: Chaios.1065

Chaios.1065

What accessories would you use in WvW for this guide?? Also what runes for the Armour. Pls someone answer my question Thank you.

I would mix up your accessories with carrion and rabid. Try a split between the two:D I would go with 5/6 runes of the undead, and 1/6 runes on the necromancer!

Why on earth would you take 5/6 undead and not go for 6/6 undead?

Even at base toughness (around 1000), undead runes give 50 condition damage for the 6 bonus. That beats out nightmares 1 rune bonus by about 20.

ah yes! haha sorry I thought that it scaled differently with the runes of undead.

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Posted by: Monkey boy.1697

Monkey boy.1697

any changes on build thus far, and chaios is there use for fear int his build. Lastly isnt this build lacking condition duration ??

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Posted by: Monkey boy.1697

Monkey boy.1697

also why no points into spite??

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Posted by: TheMightyAltroll.3485

TheMightyAltroll.3485

also why no points into spite??

You don’t need 30 points in spite to be good on a Conditionmancer, you know.

Sorry if I offend you, I’m just annoyed by questions/beliefs pertaining to 30/30/10/0/0 builds. He explains that it is not a meta build in the first paragraph if you read it.

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