Condition / power hybrids

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Posted by: sas.6483

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I was wondering if anybody could advise about building / gearing / playing a condition damage / power hybrid for wvw play. I’m thinking about a 0/30/20/20/0 or 0/25/25/20/0 build, wells and epidemic, and a mix of soldier’s and carrion gear. Something like:

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/necromancer/?5.3|6.1h.h2|b.1h.h2.d.1h.h1|1c.719.1c.719.1c.719.1c.719.1c.719.1c.719|1c.62.1c.62.1c.62.1c.62.1c.62.cc.62|0.u679.k25.k28.0|2i.d|3r.3x.4a.4d.4e|e

My thinking is roughly to use soldier’s armor and jewelry to get baseline power and survivability, and then supplement that with condition damage from runes of the undead and carrion weapons / gems. I can maintain a trickle of continuous health regen from bloodthirst and vampiric, and aoe with staff, wells and epi.

In comparison, I’ve thought about going with a rabid / carrion mix using more vampiric traiting, blood sigils, and omnom pie to get more survivability, but I’m not convinced the loss of power and vitality would be compensated for by the increase in condition damage / siphoning. Currently I’m playing a minion-heavy bunker build, but am getting a little bored… so, any advice would be appreciated. Thanks!

- Dr Ebola

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Posted by: Dariroch.6482

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I am thinking of trying something similar to this. I feel as a pure power necro our damage is too one dimensional and we can be more useful solo and in groups doing both power and condi damage. The hard part for me is to spec in curses. I play a 30 0 20 20 0. Axe focus staff. However with me not bothering with mh dagger anymore it may be time switch.

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Posted by: khadaaj.8645

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Check out Nemesis guide, his take on hybrid build. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OCcT7iJUrA

I’m playing around w/ a hybrid build using scepter/dagger and axe/focus. It’s a good mix of the both. If I use consumables that strengthen condition damage along with sigil that does the same I can get bleed to tick around 140-150. My feast of corruption can crit around 3k. and scepter crits are around 8-1k dmg.

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Posted by: sas.6483

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So the difficulty I have with the Nemesis build for WvW is that there is as far as I can tell no survivability in the gearing, and it’s likely that 30/30/-/-/- builds are out for similar reasons. I think it’s a choice between rabid or soldier’s with carrion gemming and roughly a -/20/10/15/- core build with well targeting and additional points allocated based on the particulars. Soldier’s with carrion gives obviously more power and more raw survivability. Rabid gives more crit and more sustainability through vampiric talents and on crit blood sigils / omnom pie.

After thinking it through I suspect the loss of direct damage with rabid will be made up for via siphoning damage, crit bleeds, etc. although I’m a little unsure about the use of wells with rabid gear. Roughly:

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/necromancer/?5.3|b.1h.h15.8.1h.h1|6.1h.h15|1b.7f.1b.7f.1b.7f.1b.7f.1b.7f.1b.a2|1b.62.1b.62.1b.62.1b.62.1b.62.cb.62|0.u69c.a2.k25.a2|55.1|3r.3x.4d.4a.4e|e

for rabid; something like the previous for soldier’s. In any case, I’m playing around with both, hopefully I’ll get something I like better than full minion bunker.

- Dr Ebola

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Posted by: Bhawb.7408

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I always run WvW and PvE without any defensive stats. If you are paying attention to your positioning you don’t need them (unless you are using dagger).

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Posted by: sas.6483

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So, in a full 30/30/10/0/0/ build with full rampager’s and coral, I would lose about 1/3 of the effective health offered by a rabid build; I’d be looking at 5% damage reduction from armor instead of about 25%. In exchange, I’d get about 1/3 more effective power. Regen from siphoning might be a wash given the increase in crit, condition damage is roughly a wash, etc.

Here’s the build, which you could compare with the above:

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/necromancer/?5.3|6.1o.h15|b.1o.h15.8.1o.h1|1o.711.1o.711.1o.711.1o.711.1o.711.1o.a3|1o.63.1o.63.1o.63.1o.63.1o.63.co.63|u67c.u69c.a2.0.0|55.7|3r.3x.4a.4d.0|e

It is possible it comes down to skill, but I feel the need to maintain a respectable amount of upfront defensive stats in WvW. There’s just too much aoe damage, rogues floating around, etc. to run with a glassy build. Having said that, I’m feeling more comfortable with the idea of rabid / carrion. This has been useful.

- Dr Ebola

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Posted by: ArchonWing.9480

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I am thinking of trying something similar to this. I feel as a pure power necro our damage is too one dimensional and we can be more useful solo and in groups doing both power and condi damage. The hard part for me is to spec in curses. I play a 30 0 20 20 0. Axe focus staff. However with me not bothering with mh dagger anymore it may be time switch.

It really depends if you feel you can survive or not. Spite and Curses directly benefit each other in numerous ways, after all, so you’re going to put out more damage regardless of what you are doing.

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