Guild Wars 2

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It uses dagger/focus for damage in short range and staff for AoE and distance. I use focus not warhorn because warhorn cooldowns are ridiculously high and 4 has a chargeup time making it useless for interrupts. Focus has much more utility IMO.

I’ve wanted to make a build that centres around a good well-rounded build with decent damage with dagger and can tank well. I dislike death shroud builds because it locks you in a state where you can’t see much.

Utilities are wells for AoE and Spectral walk for travelling, spectral recall for grouping.

So is this viable or not, and why?

EDIT: Would it be better to get Soldier’s trinkets instead of armour or Soldier’s armour?

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Also if you dislike Death Shroud play another class. Death Shroud is Necro.

Not using Death Shroud would be like a Thief not using Steal or Stealth. Not the brightest idea, in other words.

XiL.4318:

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Also if you dislike Death Shroud play another class. Death Shroud is Necro.

Not using Death Shroud would be like a Thief not using Steal or Stealth. Not the brightest idea, in other words.

No I don’t want to use death shroud to tank would be what I’m trying to say. I use it offensively, popping in and out to take advantage of fear to CC, 4 for AoE and 1 for boss focus.

If I used it to tank hits to fall back to staff, I wouldn’t be able to take advantage of it a couple seconds later to interrupt a boss. This is the gist of what I’m saying and why I don’t use it to tank normally.

brickforlife.1364:

I use focus not warhorn because warhorn cooldowns are ridiculously high and 4 has a chargeup time making it useless for interrupts. Focus has much more utility IMO.

It’s up to you of course, but from my experience focus #5 is easy to avoid/interrupt, same goes with #4, but since you’ll be in close range it will work fine.

I’ve wanted to make a build that centres around a good well-rounded build with decent damage with dagger and can tank well. I dislike death shroud builds because it locks you in a state where you can’t see much.

Personally I think well life siphon is too weak, I’d prefer protection, but then again, I don’t like wells at all xD
DS – devs said that it will be improved sometime in future, maybe even soon, so you might give it another chance=)

Also if you dislike Death Shroud play another class. Death Shroud is Necro.

It doesn’t mean that he won’t use it at all, because we have DS doesn’t mean that we should put everything in it and use DS only.

Abigor.4952:

brickforlife.1364:

I use focus not warhorn because warhorn cooldowns are ridiculously high and 4 has a chargeup time making it useless for interrupts. Focus has much more utility IMO.

It’s up to you of course, but from my experience focus #5 is easy to avoid/interrupt, same goes with #4, but since you’ll be in close range it will work fine.

I’ve wanted to make a build that centres around a good well-rounded build with decent damage with dagger and can tank well. I dislike death shroud builds because it locks you in a state where you can’t see much.

Personally I think well life siphon is too weak, I’d prefer protection, but then again, I don’t like wells at all xD
DS – devs said that it will be improved sometime in future, maybe even soon, so you might give it another chance=)

Also if you dislike Death Shroud play another class. Death Shroud is Necro.

It doesn’t mean that he won’t use it at all, because we have DS doesn’t mean that we should put everything in it and use DS only.

Thanks for the response. Vampiric Wells is weak but the other choice in that traitline would be minions which are almost useless. If I took protection from wells I would lose greater marks which IMO is worth more.

I might review over warhorn again but I’m not sure

Thanks for the response. Vampiric Wells is weak but the other choice in that traitline would be minions which are almost useless. If I took protection from wells I would lose greater marks which IMO is worth more.

Greater marks are “must have” if you use staff imo=), I’ve meant that you can add 10 into death magic for 10 blood magic. You won’t loose tanky effectiveness because you trade vitality for toughness, but you get less effective minor trait.

Abigor.4952:

Thanks for the response. Vampiric Wells is weak but the other choice in that traitline would be minions which are almost useless. If I took protection from wells I would lose greater marks which IMO is worth more.

Greater marks are “must have” if you use staff imo=), I’ve meant that you can add 10 into death magic for 10 blood magic. You won’t loose tanky effectiveness because you trade vitality for toughness, but you get less effective minor trait.

Ahh ok, thanks. I’ll go review that. Just waiting for more responses now. I’m still not sure if it’s viable or not. I don’t wanna blow 20g respeccing is all.

If you want to be a tank/bunker you are forced to use DS line and DS itself. You need Spectral Armor at 50% health. You need Wells Siphon. And you need to boost Life Force Generation.

Everything else is flavor.

But I will repeat myself so this is clear. Without DS traits and without heavily relying on DS and DS reactive boons, you cannot and will not be an effective Tank/Bunker. It is not possible. There are no tools available to Necro that would allow it. Semantics and theory-crafting won’t change that.

I don’t think the point is to be a bunker, if you put everything in DS/vit you won’t have enough power to deal decent damage and as I understood brickforlife wants to be 50/50.

Abigor.4952:

I don’t think the point is to be a bunker, if you put everything in DS/vit you won’t have enough power to deal decent damage and as I understood brickforlife wants to be 50/50.

That is correct. Dagger/warhorn well builds (I’ve played this one for 300~ hours) require a ridiculous amount of prancing around just to avoid being killed. I was hoping a tankier approach this time might help.

Could you clarify what you’re intending to do with this build?

War Mourner.5168:

Could you clarify what you’re intending to do with this build?

General PvE, exploration, fractals, dungeons etc. Hybrid conditionmancer right now isn’t cutting it, my damage is low and it takes way too long to startup. By the time I’ve got good poison stacks and 10 bleed stacks, the guy is dead and epidemic misses.

I would drop 10 from blood and chuck it in death magic, giving you more EHP, and although you’re trading a fairly poor minor trait for a useless (for your build) one, vampiric wells is pretty meh, so you get a set of more useful set of traits to pick and choose from.
Staff mastery is fairly popular, but all the traits from IV through to VIII are useful, although some are more situational then others. (If you really want life steal just invest in some precision and use omnomberry pies, they far outstrip anything we get from traits.)
Also you should consider whether you’re getting your money’s worth out of dagger mastery; personally I would go for mark of evasion, unless you want to spam life siphon a lot (although evasion is aoe regen and bleeds, so it’s pretty decent).

Personally I don’t like spiteful marks much, so you should at least try using reaper’s might and spiteful spirit in it’s place (both also benefit from boon duration from death magic).

Lastly with your equipment, I wouldn’t suggest investing in precision (and by extension, crit sigils) unless you want to go into it much more heavily then you currently are, other wise it’s wasted potential. (Also the jewellry doesn’t properly reflect what your stats will look like, so keep that in mind.)