Guild Wars 2

First of, let me say I’m grateful I resisted the urge to sprinkle a bit of latin in here. I almost used the suffix “phile” instead of lover.

Second, how do you deal with liking the weakest profession in the game?

I’ve come back from not playing the game for almost two years and almost nobody has anything good to say for the Necromancer except for WvW. They bring nothing special to PvE, contribute the least in dungeons. I looked at what seemed like highly regarded builds and even they seem like they’re just trying to compensate for a poor class. People seem to have given up on Arenanet fixing the Necromancer class.

So what do you do? Continue playing Necromancers? Have you switched classes?

I myself am leveling a guardian, and a Mesmer, and thinking of finishing my Warrior as well as they seem to be more useful in dungeons.

I hope they fix the Necromancer class though. It’s not all bad. It’s a very tanky class (I was often the last one alive during a wipe) and I remember saving a dungeon run by applying a bit of fear, scaring the mobs away from an NPc we were supposed to protect. Or Signet of Undeath stopping the party from wiping.

I also came back to find Necro in it’s current state.
Sadly I missed the era they were apparently strong (then got nerfed).

I’m still maining Necro and hoping for HoT to give us something to bring to groups.
Leveling an elementalist however is getting dangerously fun.

I wish I had an empty slot to start an elementalist. First time I tried them (at release) I thought they were boring. I hope my experience will be different next time.

Necro are supposed to suck life but currently they just suck. That’s half the job done.
And I suck at being spiritual, that’s my bond to the necro class.

I’m still rolling with Necro. It’s the weakest class in PvE? So what? I always seem to end up with the worst class in RPG’s, anyways. And Necromancers are my all-time favourite in Games, if there is a playable Necromancer(-class) I will play a Necromancer, no questions asked. Be it Diablo 2, Age of Conan, Gw1/2, the Necro-hero in Heroes of Might and Magic V or Everquest 2.

I remember when Dhuumfire was first buffed. I had a really epic encounter in WvW where I solo defended a tower against around 30 players who all trickled in 1-3 at a time. It was pretty magnificent, but it was that day that I knew it wouldn’t last. At least I had as much fun as I did while it lasted.

I started a thread like this but it go zero responses. I personally don’t care that some people don’t like necros. It’s my favorite class so I going to play it. Most people don’t know why necro isn’t meta they just know it isnt. A good player will do well with any class.

Their issue is it’s hard for Anet to boost necros in PvE without making them severely overpowered in PvP/WvW. Thus is life in a game that supports both modes. Necros are in the current WvW meta called GWEN (Guardians, Warriors, Eles, Necros), they are absolutely essential to the success of any large scale or GvG groups. Necros are the reasons why melee heavy trains can be countered. In other words, necros own the spike aoe damage & aoe boon stripping department. To boost their usefulness in single target situations, it’d make them downright scary.

I do hope they can somehow make necros better, don’t get me wrong as a necro I support that. But just wanting to give my opinions as to why it’s hard for Anet to buff necros due to how useful they are in larger scale combat in WvW. About the only way I can see it happen is for them to retweak the traits so necros have to be pigeonholed into picking a specific trait lines for aoe damage vs single target damage, while giving up survivability as a result. It’d effectively make necros…not necros.

To put it in a different way, imagine you’re a Thief and told you are useless in large scale WvW combat. But we all know how good Thieves are in any 1 vs 1 or single target situations. It’s kind of like that, but in reverse for necros. At least for rangers they’ve got the range to show for it, but they suck for any aoe large scale situations as well.

I feel bad for those that PvE as a necro. But necros have always had issues in PvE in MMORPG’s. Ever since the dawn of MMO’s, starting with Everquest, necros have always been solo gods but difficult to be a part of groups, especially groups that enjoyed fast killing.

gavyne.6847:

I feel bad for those that PvE as a necro. But necros have always had issues in PvE in MMORPG’s. Ever since the dawn of MMO’s, starting with Everquest, necros have always been solo gods but difficult to be a part of groups, especially groups that enjoyed fast killing.

Except in GW1 where Necros were gods in PvE. Nigh infinite energy, powerful group and boss clearing skills, etc. Heck, 3 Necro heroes was actually a meta team comp for a while in PvE.

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

gavyne.6847:

I feel bad for those that PvE as a necro. But necros have always had issues in PvE in MMORPG’s. Ever since the dawn of MMO’s, starting with Everquest, necros have always been solo gods but difficult to be a part of groups, especially groups that enjoyed fast killing.

Except in GW1 where Necros were gods in PvE. Nigh infinite energy, powerful group and boss clearing skills, etc. Heck, 3 Necro heroes was actually a meta team comp for a while in PvE.

That’s a rare breed my friend I’m comparing necros to almost all MMORPG’s since Everquest. It just seems it’s a common complaint with necromancers, the way they’re styled to play. Always seem to be built as gods of soloing, pretty good in PvP, but fall short in group PvE content.

Not saying it shouldn’t change, by all means I do hope they come up with a solution. But like I pointed out above, like the Thieves, it’s hard for Anet to make a boost to a profession without making them completely utterly ridiculously overpowered in other context.

I’m with Shiki on this one. I am excited to see what kind of rework we get and will continue playing necro..

I just don’t play Necro in PvE. In PvP we’re fine as long as you know how to play and aren’t trying to win WTS (not saying we shouldn’t get way better), and WvW we’re even playable roaming.

Plenty of things could be fixed, but the problems are mostly related to the builds that aren’t meta, or more detail type stuff, it doesn’t tend to affect your average player.

Arioch.7432:

So what do you do? Continue playing Necromancers? Have you switched classes?

I retired the necro to spvp, where i can have fun killing thieves and elementalists at will.

i leveled a warrior but didnt like it in dungeons.

Leveled an elementalist and am currently training doing cof. Has a very high damage potential, but if the group is bad, you are left with a really squishy glass cannon.

Oh, and after years of missing blast finishers and fire fields on my necro, i can’t believe how many people still don’t blast my kitten firefields.

What I do? I keep playing my Necro, even in PvE, cause I have lots of fun with it

I’m lucky to be in a guild, which has its main aspect on PvE, where everybody can play what they want. So when we go Dungeoneering, we don’t care what professions or builds people use. As long as everybody knows what to do and we can finish the instance with lots of laughter and fun, that matters the most.

I do have other lvl80 alts and they are fun, but they always bore me after a while. My Necromancer keeps calling me back. Maybe also because I want to prove it to other people that Necro still is a viable option in PvE.

kitten the meta

I recently had my “omg necro is weak I need to learn a new profession” meltdown that I have about once every couple months. I always come back. I think this is probably something most of us that have been around for awhile go through, I think it’s normal to get down on the weaknesses of the class sometimes.