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Posted by: DTATL.9641

DTATL.9641

This have most likely been asked a long time ago but I couldn’t find anything.
As we are aware necros lack active defences which can make us weak. Our main defence is deathshroud. DS is a resource based which slowly drains while active and also takes dmg when we get hit. Does it really need to have a CD as well? Wouldn’t it be better if we could swap into it more like kits? That way we would have better control of the dmg we take. This would of course require some ICD of some traits to not be crazy.

Wouldn’t this allow us to have more reactive defence/utility? Personally I don’t see this as op as skills in DS skills still have CD’s. The only place I could see this be too good is in pvp where we could basically take all heavy hits with DS. But then again that require good reading of animations(aint this something good to encourage?) and it’s still a resource that have to be generated back. I guess with LF generation skills this could get a bit much in a 1v1.

I would really like this but I’m not really sure if it would if there is an aspect I’ve missed that would make this too good.

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Posted by: SpellOfIniquity.1780

SpellOfIniquity.1780

It would be too easy to become invincible if Death Shroud had no cooldown. Since dagger, staff, anything that grants Life Force has no ICD you could effectively prevent your Life Force from ever falling below 50% by only hopping out of Shroud for a few seconds at a time to rebuild it.

I’m not the best Necro in the world but I can be pretty hard to kill. And I’ve met some Necro’s that are absurdly hard to kill even in full Berserker because of how good they are at managing their Life Force. If there was no cooldown on Shroud the good Necro’s would be immortal in a 1v1/1v2 fight unless it was against 2 lockdown Mesmers.

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Posted by: DTATL.9641

DTATL.9641

Then would you rather stay with the system we have now or balance it for no CD? Would adding a 10%LF cost to swap into DS without CD work or ruin it completely?

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Posted by: mazut.4296

mazut.4296

The CD is fine, you need to be aware and make decisions when to use DS and how long to stay in it. Look elsewhere for much bigger flaws, that need fixing/changing.
If they give us the option to see our utilities skill when in Ds, this will give us more precise LF managing. Only this by itself will make us a little bit stronger.

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Posted by: DTATL.9641

DTATL.9641

While I do think it works in it’s current application I still think what it would be better for it to be more reactive. Also, so because Necro having other issues (which we are all aware of) we aren’t allowed to discuss changes someone wants or ideas for new things?

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Posted by: mazut.4296

mazut.4296

Don’t put words in my mouth, please. All I said is that there are bigger problems and better solutions.

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Posted by: DTATL.9641

DTATL.9641

All I said is that there are bigger problems and better solutions.

The fact that necro have other problems have nothing to do with this at all. This is why I responded in that way. IF that wasn’t your intent, sorry, but still seems like it the way it’s worded
About there being better solutions (to what I understand must be about necro lacking active defences, which is only half of this post is about), Then yes there most likely are as with all ideas there’s someone who had a better one. There is still the part that I think a reactive DS would encourage better reading of animations and patterns. If you don’t want that or think it’s good enough without it, it’s fine. It’s still something I would like to see in the future though.

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Posted by: Axyl.9408

Axyl.9408

I’m going to have to agree with the other guys in this thread. You’re trying propose a fix for something that isn’t broken.

It’s similar to how someone in the Thief forums proposed getting rid of weapon swap CD for thieves, because they don’t have weapon cool downs anyway.

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Posted by: Muchacho.2390

Muchacho.2390

The cooldown on DS/RS is fine. I am certain that is the last thing that needs changes…

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Posted by: striker.3704

striker.3704

DS is reactive as you can use it even when stunned. The cooldown doesn’t need changing. On top of that, there are many DS traits that activate on entering DS and don’t have cooldowns that would all need balancing if that changed.

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Posted by: Erasmus.1624

Erasmus.1624

While weapon swaps wouldn’t need a cooldown if this game were actually designed and balanced properly, death shroud’s potential sudden health gain due to its “second health bar” effect along with related trait triggers warrant a short cooldown period.