Disillusioned with the necro

Disillusioned with the necro

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Posted by: Dietzen.6127

Dietzen.6127

Hello necro community.

I’ve played necro since beta, and don’t often post. By I’m growing increasingly concerned with the necro and have become quite disillusioned by the lack of… well, everything a lot of classes just do better.

You might not agree with me at all, but I quite often get the sense that I have to work 2x, 3x as kitten my necro to kill someone (when I’m solo roaming) than when I switch to one of my other characters (80 of every class). This kind of forces me to go full ham on condis, which I do well with obv since it does good dmg, however I’m still getting completely wrecked by mesmers (both power, condi), good thieves, good rangers.

Now you might be thinking, well hey you do well against every other class, and you shouldn’t be able to beat everyone. But I do like to fell I at least have a chance in hell, and a 15-18k burst from a mesmer just leaves me with the feeling I’m not entirely as effective, or defensive as I should be.

So in summation, I prolly suck. Give me tips so that I at least have a chance against every class, most annoyingly mesmers.

cheers

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Posted by: Vydahr.4285

Vydahr.4285

Try this on for size: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vRAQNAoYWjc0QLNWTD22AHOOwFqZR0EVBsNDgWgeGxxzC-TZRBwAbOEA02focZgFnAAAPBAA

Pretty kitten durable, and gets good damage out with wells and shroud (especially if you get full bloodlust and might stacks).

Basically, it’s a hybrid power/tank build (brawler build, essentially) that’s pretty forgiving of mistakes, to an extent

Drahvienn
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Posted by: Dietzen.6127

Dietzen.6127

Try this on for size: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vRAQNAoYWjc0QLNWTD22AHOOwFqZR0EVBsNDgWgeGxxzC-TZRBwAbOEA02focZgFnAAAPBAA

Pretty kitten durable, and gets good damage out with wells and shroud (especially if you get full bloodlust and might stacks).

Basically, it’s a hybrid power/tank build (brawler build, essentially) that’s pretty forgiving of mistakes, to an extent

Maybe I should have stated more clearly that I only every solo roam I don’t like wells much in wvw as I often find my targets can evade the wells entirely.
(and to those who would say, this class isn’t for that, meh you, that’s not what I’m asking to hear. I’m asking for advice.)

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Posted by: Vydahr.4285

Vydahr.4285

Try this on for size: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vRAQNAoYWjc0QLNWTD22AHOOwFqZR0EVBsNDgWgeGxxzC-TZRBwAbOEA02focZgFnAAAPBAA

Pretty kitten durable, and gets good damage out with wells and shroud (especially if you get full bloodlust and might stacks).

Basically, it’s a hybrid power/tank build (brawler build, essentially) that’s pretty forgiving of mistakes, to an extent

Maybe I should have stated more clearly that I only every solo roam I don’t like wells much in wvw as I often find my targets can evade the wells entirely.
(and to those who would say, this class isn’t for that, meh you, that’s not what I’m asking to hear. I’m asking for advice.)

Getting a bit of practice and learning to anticipate where your enemy is going will help with them missing out on some of that damage. Dagger 3 and Warhorn 4 are your friends with wells. But you also get insane durability if you pop Spectral Armor then Shroud, so you can be basically invulnerable for nine seconds in duels and some 2v1’s.

If you want to use different utilities, feel free. But overall, the traitlines are solid and Soldier gear is where it’s at (Forgot you were talking WvW so didn’t switch what game mode the build is in xD )

Drahvienn
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Posted by: gavyne.6847

gavyne.6847

Ahh solo roam WvW, maybe you should link the build you’re running so we can make suggestions. But yes, solo roaming is rough just because people can disengage and run away if they want to. Not to mention the inevitable adds you’ll get roaming in WvW, and you having no way to disengage or escape.

I’ve found curses and signet builds to work well in WvW roaming. The high weakness uptime and plague sending is great against thieves and mesmers. You would pretty much need to make sure you have 100% lifeforce or you’re dead, don’t even bother. And to be quick to pop deathshroud or stun break so you don’t just soak the initial burst.

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Posted by: mordran.4750

mordran.4750

You might not agree with me at all, but I quite often get the sense that I have to work 2x, 3x as kitten my necro to kill someone (when I’m solo roaming)

Unfortunately this is nothing new. If you really want to solo roam there have always been by far better choices than a necro. In the past there have been Thief, Warrior, Ele and after the patch you see Mesmers, Mesmers, Mesmers , sometimes Medi Guards and a few Eles.

This is unfortunately what Anet made of their own Game, it´s not about sticking to your class and mastering it, it´s about play whats fotm after patch xyz. Plus and this annoys me the most, even if somebody does not fall into this fotm madness you are somehow forced to play the most Aids and broken build around to be effective against the other Aids builds. Looking at the roaming necro i often see the infamous version of the terrormancer with signets and perplexity runes, disgusting.

If you want to solo roam roll a mesmer and you will have hell a lot of an easier time, or if you don´t want to be a winning team joiner, roll a fire d/d ele, they are pretty good too like all classes with heavy access to burning.

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Posted by: Knighthonor.4061

Knighthonor.4061

Hello necro community.

I’ve played necro since beta, and don’t often post. By I’m growing increasingly concerned with the necro and have become quite disillusioned by the lack of… well, everything a lot of classes just do better.

You might not agree with me at all, but I quite often get the sense that I have to work 2x, 3x as kitten my necro to kill someone (when I’m solo roaming) than when I switch to one of my other characters (80 of every class). This kind of forces me to go full ham on condis, which I do well with obv since it does good dmg, however I’m still getting completely wrecked by mesmers (both power, condi), good thieves, good rangers.

Now you might be thinking, well hey you do well against every other class, and you shouldn’t be able to beat everyone. But I do like to fell I at least have a chance in hell, and a 15-18k burst from a mesmer just leaves me with the feeling I’m not entirely as effective, or defensive as I should be.

So in summation, I prolly suck. Give me tips so that I at least have a chance against every class, most annoyingly mesmers.

cheers

OP I believe you are confusing Underpowered Necro, with OP other classes.

You fight against OP classes expect to get beat down.

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Posted by: Dawdler.8521

Dawdler.8521

So in summation, I prolly suck. Give me tips so that I at least have a chance against every class, most annoyingly mesmers.

Simple: When they get close, wellbomb yourself. Mesmers often cant handle pressure. The really dangerous ones are double twohanders. Only ds can win that fight. No lf? You be dead.

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Posted by: Lynnie.7213

Lynnie.7213

I feel you, Dietzen.
I was having some issues against mesmers a while ago but every since i crafted this build: http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Necromancer_-_Signet_Roamer
and learn how to react and what to dodge it got so much easier.
I can seriously count in one hand the times i lost to a mesmer every since 06/23 patch.
Give it a try and please dodge that Mirror Blade.

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