Guild Wars 2

Do they even care?

Tell Anet you’re not happy with the way they’re treating necros…send in tickets, send in-game reports, we have to spam them like crazy to make them listen.

Let’s be realistic here – ANET does read the forums. They hear our voices. And they know we are not satisfied with the Necro spec.

Internally, there’s probably some reason the balance is the way it is. Whether that’d be preparing for a future update, or simple balance issues we are unaware about.

Sorry, I’m not going to buy that, Kain. If Anet DID read the forums and they DID know we aren’t happy with what they’ve done to necros, then they would be buffing the class, not nerfing one of its more useful traits and, consequently, a well skill and an elite skill. I don’t agree with you when you say that Anet had a perfectly justifiable reason for nerfing necro traits and that that reasoning is somehow beyond our comprehension and we should just accept that, because necro players are smart enough to understand why Anet thought they had to nerf Chilling Darkness; it’s just that the reasoning is faulty and most necro players such as myself don’t agree with their justification. This recent nerf has pretty much broken WoD and has made Plague a half-neutered elite skill.

And if you really think Anet reads these forums and listens to players, then I invite you to go check out the threads concerning the Dragon Hunter name and how players there implored Anet to change the name because it’s pretty lame. The dialogue in the main thread pretty much ended with Anet giving their explanation for why they chose the name, and basically implying that they’re not going to change it, even though A LOT of people were not happy with the name (and a lot of people gave some really good suggestions for replacement names…personally, I suggested Herald or Exemplar).

Drlightningbolt.1754:

Do they even care?

Yes they read the forum and no they don´t give a kitten about player feedback. This had been so since release. The only thing that is relevant for them are their own weird ideas with things nobody asked for or things that never caused any problems. I´m on necro since the betas and i stopped taking them seriously after the dumbfire patch. Balance in this game is completely ridiculous, either they buff classes through the roof or give classes nerfs for whatever reason. And of course without any feedback because hey we are only stupid players, what do we know compared to them………

is simple really they just dont care for the necro comunity. I don’t get why they don’t delete the class already

LionChain.7694:

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He didn’t say they make changes based on player feedback he just said they do read them, which is true, they do interact on the forums, which is also true. They may not make the changes players want or even communicate often, which would only be quantified by each person satisfaction.

Still the forums are not really active it’s usually the same posters who are comfortable speaking their minds on the forums. Reddit has much more activity from multiple people than the forums do and they read and reply there too.

The truth is that they read the forums, but whatever their design philosophy is there is no certainty it will always align with the forum hive mind.

You can post something you don’t like or like hope they read it try to keep in on the front page, relevant, and continue to play the game or not.

I think they consider player feedback, but it isn’t the driving force for balance changes.

mordran.4750:

Drlightningbolt.1754:

Do they even care?

And of course without any feedback because hey we are only stupid players, what do we know compared to them………

Dont remind me… Every time i see rubi or the guy from ready up play the game in the streams I facepalm.

Kain Francois.4328:

Let’s be realistic here – ANET does read the forums. They hear our voices. And they know we are not satisfied with the Necro spec.

Internally, there’s probably some reason the balance is the way it is. Whether that’d be preparing for a future update, or simple balance issues we are unaware about.

Praise our Lord Grenth someone else isn’t blindly angry. Kain is absolutely right, they read the forums, they’ve proven it, and if anyone doesn’t see it its because they are either intentionally ignorant or just haven’t been around for more than a few days.

ANet is making a product here, this is their livelihood, they aren’t going to have a massive portion of the game that they actively hate and try to screw over. Accusing ANet of ignorance is absolutely justified, but accusing them of hating the very profession they have spent years working on is just flat out stupid.

Bhawb.7408:

Kain Francois.4328:

Let’s be realistic here – ANET does read the forums. They hear our voices. And they know we are not satisfied with the Necro spec.

Internally, there’s probably some reason the balance is the way it is. Whether that’d be preparing for a future update, or simple balance issues we are unaware about.

Praise our Lord Grenth someone else isn’t blindly angry…

Nah, I’m also pretty angry. But I also recognize that ANET are people too.

I feel like their struggle is trying to define what niche the Necromancer should be, relative to other classes. The key word here is “relative”. It’d be easy to buff Necromancers, but that could perhaps ruin the niches of other classes. As a result of conflicting with other class niches, we’re shoehorned into a bunch of gimmicks, like boon corruption, and condition transfer.

However, the ONE niche of Necromancer I really like so far, is Transfusion, Vampiric Aura, and that thing where they stop downed damage on allies. It’s a great direction for Necromancer to go in, and I would really love to see more support oriented towards helping allies in the downed state.

Whats is kittening frustrating about these nerfs is that they refuse to explain them. Its like they have a policy on not explaining balance changes. But it just makes the community frustrated and build up ill will towards anet.

“Revenant is actual proof that devs read the necromancer forum” – Pelopidas.2140

I’m curious, has Anet at any point in time come right out and said what they feel the necro should be in terms of team fights? Or how they’re meant to perform(or NOT perform, as the case may be) in group PVE such as dungeons?

The funny thing reading the forums is how much support we get from players of other classes. I keep seeing things like “I don’t even play necro but that nerf was terrible”. When people who don’t play necro (and will be our competition) don’t like what the devs are doing to our balance then you know it’s not just us being selfish. Every player of every class wants their favorite classes buffed but our pleading isn’t to make us OP. Its to make us in the same league as everyone else.

If buffs and nerfs were round robin where for a few months Necro was the strongest then nerfed and another took our place for a bit it would be fine. Constantly changing the meta keeps everyone on their toes. But we haven’t had a turn since the game came out. Each time we came close we were nerfed before we could shine. That’s the issue.

Rym.1469:

“Revenant is actual proof that devs read the necromancer forum” – Pelopidas.2140

This

man im famous
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Pelopidas.2140:

man im famous
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Right man at the right time making right statement, bud.

You’re right.