Dungeon Zerker Build?

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Posted by: AkiLeaves.2613

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As the title says. I am wondering what berserker builds run well in dungeons and fractals? What traits, weapon sets, skills, etc?

Looking for something to do in dungeons, and probably casual WvW zerging.

This is my fourth level 80, but I’m not completely made of money and would like to make sure I buy the right set of gear the first time around.

If you’d argue against berserker for dungeons, please let me know why; I just want a set of armor and trinkets that will serve me well for general dungeons, fractals, and MAYBE WvW. Like I said, I usually just move with zergs in WvW, so yeah.

Thanks a bunch!

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Posted by: Linguistically Inept.6583

Linguistically Inept.6583

full zerker is bad in wvw; zerging… you become rallybait
but anyone who argues against zerker for the majority of dungeons is incorrect (majority because stuff like mai trin, or maybe some parts of dredge and stuff)

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80 warr [Blaze Steelsoul], 80 ele [Blaze Nightstrike], 80 mesmer [Grim Shatterwhirl]
80 guard [Dusk Grimlight], 80 engi [Flintgear]

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Posted by: AkiLeaves.2613

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I’m okay doing full zerk armor with some knight’s accessories, or a mix of knight’s and berserkers… Or something like that. I’m just trying to get a good feel. I’ve heard mostly berserkers, knight’s, and mixes of each. I was thinking maybe zerk armor with zerk rings, knight’s accessories, and neck… Or something. I guess I don’t really want a “zerk” build as much as power/crit type build.

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Posted by: Targuil.3741

Targuil.3741

If you’re gonna go hybrid, at least go full zerk on all jewellery, they give better returns for each crit damage % than armor compared to other stats.

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I think I should remove this quote given the recent developement.

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Posted by: AkiLeaves.2613

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If you’re gonna go hybrid, at least go full zerk on all jewellery, they give better returns for each crit damage % than armor compared to other stats.

Good to know, thanks. If I go hybrid, I’ll grab a few knight’s pieces. But I still haven’t quite figured out what I’m doing yet… ><

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Posted by: Linguistically Inept.6583

Linguistically Inept.6583

If you’re gonna go hybrid, at least go full zerk on all jewellery, they give better returns for each crit damage % than armor compared to other stats.

Good to know, thanks. If I go hybrid, I’ll grab a few knight’s pieces. But I still haven’t quite figured out what I’m doing yet… ><

bear in mind that thats only applicable with ascended trinkets… exo berserker trinkets (with the exception of the amulet) have bad stat:crit damage

Desolation: 80 ranger [Nightwither], 80 necro [Dusk Grimsoul]
80 warr [Blaze Steelsoul], 80 ele [Blaze Nightstrike], 80 mesmer [Grim Shatterwhirl]
80 guard [Dusk Grimlight], 80 engi [Flintgear]

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AkiLeaves.2613

If you’re gonna go hybrid, at least go full zerk on all jewellery, they give better returns for each crit damage % than armor compared to other stats.

Good to know, thanks. If I go hybrid, I’ll grab a few knight’s pieces. But I still haven’t quite figured out what I’m doing yet… ><

bear in mind that thats only applicable with ascended trinkets… exo berserker trinkets (with the exception of the amulet) have bad stat:crit damage

I"ll probably be doing two ascended rings and an ascended amulet right off the bat.

Hmm, so you think it would be better to sub in knight’s pieces for armor, or for trinkets?

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Posted by: Linguistically Inept.6583

Linguistically Inept.6583

If you’re gonna go hybrid, at least go full zerk on all jewellery, they give better returns for each crit damage % than armor compared to other stats.

Good to know, thanks. If I go hybrid, I’ll grab a few knight’s pieces. But I still haven’t quite figured out what I’m doing yet… ><

bear in mind that thats only applicable with ascended trinkets… exo berserker trinkets (with the exception of the amulet) have bad stat:crit damage

I"ll probably be doing two ascended rings and an ascended amulet right off the bat.

Hmm, so you think it would be better to sub in knight’s pieces for armor, or for trinkets?

ascended trinkets have the best stats lost per crit damage ratio
for exotics this guide is helpful, if you’re going to get non zerker/valk armour then its best for it to be the helm or legs (followed by chest)

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80 warr [Blaze Steelsoul], 80 ele [Blaze Nightstrike], 80 mesmer [Grim Shatterwhirl]
80 guard [Dusk Grimlight], 80 engi [Flintgear]

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Posted by: ndrangles.5183

ndrangles.5183

20/0/20/0/30 is what i use for pve zerker. it stacks and maintains 25 vuln against anything that isn’t Unshakable. against Unshakable mobs it drops to like 9-13 consistent stacks. god i hate that buff.

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Posted by: Afya.5842

Afya.5842

@ndrangles

I don’t know why you would 20/0
Because the one of the best traits for power necro is located 30 in Spite or 25 in curse.

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Posted by: ndrangles.5183

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@ndrangles

I don’t know why you would 20/0
Because the one of the best traits for power necro is located 30 in Spite or 25 in curse.

basically the idea that 25% dmg for your team >>>>> 20% dmg for yourself

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Posted by: Afya.5842

Afya.5842

So I assume you’re taking the death shiver trait? I think you get pretty good amount of vuln from axe1 alone. Also focus, life blast, WoS. I don’t think it’s a good idea to cap vuln from one person alone. There are so many source of vuln from other classes that often build 10+ stacks on bosses without specifically going into that. I would avoid capping vuln alone, and invest more in personal dps.

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Posted by: AkiLeaves.2613

AkiLeaves.2613

If you’re gonna go hybrid, at least go full zerk on all jewellery, they give better returns for each crit damage % than armor compared to other stats.

Good to know, thanks. If I go hybrid, I’ll grab a few knight’s pieces. But I still haven’t quite figured out what I’m doing yet… ><

bear in mind that thats only applicable with ascended trinkets… exo berserker trinkets (with the exception of the amulet) have bad stat:crit damage

I"ll probably be doing two ascended rings and an ascended amulet right off the bat.

Hmm, so you think it would be better to sub in knight’s pieces for armor, or for trinkets?

ascended trinkets have the best stats lost per crit damage ratio
for exotics this guide is helpful, if you’re going to get non zerker/valk armour then its best for it to be the helm or legs (followed by chest)

Thanks! This gave me a lot to think about. Would you recommend getting valk gear on a necro with our already high base hp? Everyone I’ve seen says we benefit from extra toughness far more.

Though, I’m getting a good idea of what I’d really like to do with my gear now. The main thing I need to work out is a good build. Vulnerability stacking sounds pretty amazing.

Does anyone have some berserker (or pow/crit oriented) vulnerability stacking builds they could share that work well in dungeons but also offer decent damage?

Let me get this straight first, I am not expecting berserker warrior or mesmer quality damage; just decent/acceptable.

Please give trait allocations, skills, weapons, etc, etc… Or links to builds.

Just saying it’s x/x/x/x/x and that it serves “x” function doesn’t help me a whole lot since I’m pretty bad at theorycrafting and such.

Thanks for all the help, it’s much appreciated!

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Posted by: Linguistically Inept.6583

Linguistically Inept.6583

If you’re gonna go hybrid, at least go full zerk on all jewellery, they give better returns for each crit damage % than armor compared to other stats.

Good to know, thanks. If I go hybrid, I’ll grab a few knight’s pieces. But I still haven’t quite figured out what I’m doing yet… ><

bear in mind that thats only applicable with ascended trinkets… exo berserker trinkets (with the exception of the amulet) have bad stat:crit damage

I"ll probably be doing two ascended rings and an ascended amulet right off the bat.

Hmm, so you think it would be better to sub in knight’s pieces for armor, or for trinkets?

ascended trinkets have the best stats lost per crit damage ratio
for exotics this guide is helpful, if you’re going to get non zerker/valk armour then its best for it to be the helm or legs (followed by chest)

Thanks! This gave me a lot to think about. Would you recommend getting valk gear on a necro with our already high base hp? Everyone I’ve seen says we benefit from extra toughness far more.

i only mentioned valk because it has crit damage as a stat (same with cavalier; but cavalier isnt currently obtainable for armour/weapons)… i dont really see a use for valk outside of hidden killer thieves or arcane eles (but im sure im wrong)

Desolation: 80 ranger [Nightwither], 80 necro [Dusk Grimsoul]
80 warr [Blaze Steelsoul], 80 ele [Blaze Nightstrike], 80 mesmer [Grim Shatterwhirl]
80 guard [Dusk Grimlight], 80 engi [Flintgear]

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Posted by: AkiLeaves.2613

AkiLeaves.2613

If you’re gonna go hybrid, at least go full zerk on all jewellery, they give better returns for each crit damage % than armor compared to other stats.

Good to know, thanks. If I go hybrid, I’ll grab a few knight’s pieces. But I still haven’t quite figured out what I’m doing yet… ><

bear in mind that thats only applicable with ascended trinkets… exo berserker trinkets (with the exception of the amulet) have bad stat:crit damage

I"ll probably be doing two ascended rings and an ascended amulet right off the bat.

Hmm, so you think it would be better to sub in knight’s pieces for armor, or for trinkets?

ascended trinkets have the best stats lost per crit damage ratio
for exotics this guide is helpful, if you’re going to get non zerker/valk armour then its best for it to be the helm or legs (followed by chest)

Thanks! This gave me a lot to think about. Would you recommend getting valk gear on a necro with our already high base hp? Everyone I’ve seen says we benefit from extra toughness far more.

i only mentioned valk because it has crit damage as a stat (same with cavalier; but cavalier isnt currently obtainable for armour/weapons)… i dont really see a use for valk outside of hidden killer thieves or arcane eles (but im sure im wrong)

Okay, thank you! You’ve really helped me determine what I’ll do with the prefixes on my gear, so I much appreciate it.

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Posted by: AkiLeaves.2613

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Okay, need some help. I have full zerker gear on everything, but I ALSO have a full set of Knight’s armor for survivability if I need to switch in pieces.

What runes should I stick in my armor, or should I just use ruby orbs?

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Posted by: jalmari.3906

jalmari.3906

zerk is fine in dungeons

if you are not confident you stay alive in full zerk gear take knight, cavalier, valkyrie or soldiers in mix with zerk according to your personal taste. Ruby orbs are fine, I personally prefer ogre’s but there might be better ones. Bloodlust and force sigils might be fine.

usual zerk builds are like 30/30/x/x/x or 30/x/x/x/30 latter relies on DS usage more and you can swap for DS stability if needed while first one has better base crit without DS and benefits for all conditions applied by whole party.

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