Guild Wars 2

As some one mentioned before to give us a elite well like lupi’s green circle of doom, I think dragon hunters pulled a fast one and got that, sad sad sad.
So here I am with a completely new (not really)idea:D
Cooldown 75sec
Well of Decension(kiss the planet)
Pulses 6, dureation 6seconds
Conjure a well that pulse ageis and causes the opponent to transported into the sky, falling for 3 seconds and taking falling damage
Ageis dureation: 1sec
(Unblockable)
(Cannot be evaded)
(Cannot critical)
Max falls per foe -2(1800dmg per fall)

Interesting idea; however, if an elite well was ever put in the Necromancer’s repertoire, I’d figured it would be more like this:

Well of Condemning: Target area pluses, tormenting enemies and finishing off those who are downed (120s cd).
-Damage (5x): x
-15 Torment (20s)
-Lifeforce: 2%
-Number of Targets: 5
-Pulses: 1s
-Duration: 5s
-Cast Time: 1.5s
-Radius: 240
-Range: 900
-Unblockable

I like the finish those that are downed idea!

My though was:
Well of Death-Large amount of damage. Pulse daze and kills downed enemies.
Damage (3x): x
Daze: 1s every second for 3 seconds
Duration: 3s
Unblockable
180 second cd

Going to build off a few amazing ideas from above.

well of abyss: Target area pulses, players caught within the area are enveloped in a watery grave. Downed Players are finished.

-Unblockable
-Dark Field
-Duration: 3 seconds
-Number of Targets: 5
-Cast Time: 2s (Huge Tell, Caster leaps and stabs the ground)
-Radius: 350
-Cooldown: 120sec

Well of Dhuum
- can’t be evaded
-Damage (6x): x 1,476 (3.96)
-5s slow
-Lifeforce: 2% per pulse
-knock down foes every pulse
-Number of Targets: 5
-Pulses: 1s
Duration: 6s
Radius: 240
Combo Combo Field: Ethereal
Range: 900
Unblockable

I think we all agree that a downed finisher on final hit is the theme.

Id just make it really op with a light/dark theme by also rezzing allies on final hit, so its either rezz or stompbot.

Good ideas but I like:
Well of souls-
Transfer the life force of your enemies into your self to heal spreadsheet your allies, while slaying downed foes.
Deals life stealing damage x 4.96 ( scales on power (life steal so no crit (heals for 50% of life steal )
Pulses 6 times
Finish defeated foes struck by the well’s final pulse and resurrect up to 3 allies
120s CD.
900 range
I’m not sure about the balance, I just thought of it randomly but of course numbers can be tweaked. Anyways hope you like my idea XD.

Well of oblivion:
90 sec cd
duration 6 sec
pulse 1 per sec
breaks stun
Conjure a powerful well that pulses the effects of lesser wells

Pulls 1 is the well power
Pulls 2 is the well of blood
Pulls 3 is the well of darkness
Pulls 4 is the well corruption
Pulls 5 is the well suffering
Pulls 6 is every other well effect together (all the above effects pulse one time together and the well ends)

“Border of Life”

60 sec CD
6 sec duration

Applies Weakness and Chill per second.

If you are downed while standing in the well and the enemy that downed you is also standing in the well, the enemy is downed instead and you are revived.

(A high risk and highly situational skill with a very high reward. You need to anticipate your impending doom and drop a well and hope your enemy stands in it while he delivers the downing blow. )

I am kind of split between having an elite well with DoT and an elite support well that gives a party buff.

The first thought I had was for a well that creates a column of rising air but that could break the game.

The second thought was a well that gives vigor.

Anchoku.8142:

I am kind of split between having an elite well with DoT and an elite support well that gives a party buff.

The first thought I had was for a well that creates a column of rising air but that could break the game.

The second thought was a well that gives vigor.

Vigor is worthless after nerf so think about something else lol.

Sadrien.3470:

Good ideas but I like:
Well of souls-
Transfer the life force of your enemies into your self to heal spreadsheet your allies, while slaying downed foes.
Deals life stealing damage x 4.96 ( scales on power (life steal so no crit (heals for 50% of life steal )
Pulses 6 times
Finish defeated foes struck by the well’s final pulse and resurrect up to 3 allies
120s CD.
900 range
I’m not sure about the balance, I just thought of it randomly but of course numbers can be tweaked. Anyways hope you like my idea XD.

Either this or a lupicus bubble of death. Like really, who doesn’t want that op skill.

Or, condi damage version actually.

Well of the Unholy-

6 pulses
Deals low damage x1.46
Applies poison, cripple, and torment
Torment – 2 stacks for 6s
Poison – 1 stack for 6s
Cripple – for 2s

Cool down 90s

Or add the lupicus bubble CD 140s

An elite well that finishes downed enemies would be the dream!

The problem with a finishing well is that it may be thematically appropriate, but it’d be a slap in the face to Thieves since their special features keep getting pillaged by other professions.

As for Elite Wells, I’d love to see one that creates a large area that heals allies, damages enemies, and rapidly regenerates or summons minions.
There isn’t a ton of great stuff for people who want a skeleton army, but it’s not entirely unworkable. Really, it just requires more skills like “Rise!” and the Mark from Lich Form.

Alternatively, if you really wanted a Well that was dangerous to downed players, make it an instant cast with a single interrupt when laid down, and give it extra damage to downed players… Maybe in the form of Poison stacks. That’ll make it feel a lot more of a threat to downed players by a lot, counter revive attempts once in an AoE, and still not take away the Thief’s special thing.
Honestly, having it just tick damage and do more to downed players, then have any player finished (regardless of how) while the Well is in effect could explode in poison and bleeding (or poison and a minion that lasts a brief time but has very high dps)
That would make it terrifyingly effective if you got it in the right situation and finished multiple enemies at once as well as just being kitten cool.

Slowmelt.8547:

The problem with a finishing well is that it may be thematically appropriate, but it’d be a slap in the face to Thieves since their special features keep getting pillaged by other professions.

Thieves? Why? Safe stomping was never exclusive to thieves.

Slowmelt.8547:

… and still not take away the Thief’s special thing.

In case you’re referring to their elite Impact Strike – Finishing Blow, that doesn’t make them any more special than classes that have invuln stomps or stuff like the horrendously op Function Gyro.

Slowmelt.8547:

Honestly, having it just tick damage and do more to downed players, then have any player finished (regardless of how) while the Well is in effect could explode in poison and bleeding (or poison and a minion that lasts a brief time but has very high dps)
That would make it terrifyingly effective if you got it in the right situation and finished multiple enemies at once as well as just being kitten cool.

That would be absolutely useless.
There are tons of other ways to cleave or poison downed players and those who attempt to revive them, non of which are as reliable or effective as an actual stomp.

A new well needs some unique utility, and simply adding more damage would neither be creative nor a useful solution.

Well Of Vampirism

Target area pulses stealing health from foes and transferring it to allies. -

Healing: 325 (0.75)
Number of targets: 5
Pulse: 1s
Duration: 8s
Radius: 280
Combo Field:Water
Range: 900
Unblockable

Cast time: 1/4
Cooldown: 80s

Yay? Nay? /shrug. I just imagine the insane healing you could get dropping this in to a zerg in WvW with Vampiric Rituals. It’d be an almost insta-full heal and big group heal, lol.

>Random Skill Name<
CD: 120 sec
max targets: 5

Applies an effect on allies in area that makes them rally as plagues on lethal hit, giving them (3 skills to use while in the plague form, no idea what). When the effect expires they explode dealing damage to enemies around them.
Allies will end up in down state at the end of effect.

Effect duration on alive target: 8 sec
Plague duration 5sec

Dreaminspace.2638:

Going to build off a few amazing ideas from above.

well of abyss: Target area pulses, players caught within the area are enveloped in a watery grave. Downed Players are finished.

-Unblockable
-Dark Field
-Duration: 3 seconds
-Number of Targets: 5
-Cast Time: 2s (Huge Tell, Caster leaps and stabs the ground)
-Radius: 350
-Cooldown: 120sec

Watery Grave: Debuff
Targets: 5
Duration:10/sec

You carry an enemy-based Water Field that clears an enemy condi every 3 seconds. (Pulsing but does not stack. Max condi clear per enemy per 3sec: 1.) Debuffed player can’t interact with Combo Fields. O.o

Anet, we must has!!

That might be too much. Condi clear changed to 5 sec. (Also, no dark field on well. Only a pulsing finisher.)

Well of Helfire: Target area pulses damage and burning to foes. Allies in the area gain Helfire.
-Damage: (6x) 738 (same as Well of Corruption)
-Burning (3 seconds)
-Unblockable
-Fire Field
-Number of Pulses: 6
-Cast Time: 1/4s
-Number of Targets: 5
-Radius: 240
-Cooldown: 60s
-Range: 900
Helfire: Allies inflict burning on hit (1s icd) and do +10% damage vs burning foes.
The effect itself would grant a green fire effect to weapons of those it effects.

This would grant Necros a nice party buff which could be useful to both condition and pure damage builds.

Lahmia.2193:

Well of Helfire: Target area pulses damage and burning to foes. Allies in the area gain Helfire.
-Damage: (6x) 738 (same as Well of Corruption)
-Burning (3 seconds)
-Unblockable
-Fire Field
-Number of Pulses: 6
-Cast Time: 1/4s
-Number of Targets: 5
-Radius: 240
-Cooldown: 60s
-Range: 900
Helfire: Allies inflict burning on hit (1s icd) and do +10% damage vs burning foes.
The effect itself would grant a green fire effect to weapons of those it effects.

This would grant Necros a nice party buff which could be useful to both condition and pure damage builds.

I was about to post a very similar well but just call it Well Of Dhuumfire but add chill as well so that it’s hard to leave. Also with a bigger radius
Well of Dhuumfire:
Recharge time: 60s
-Damage: (6x) 738 (same as Well of Corruption)
-Burning (3 seconds)
-Chill(3seconds)
-Unblockable_
-Fire Field
-Number of Pulses: 6
-Cast Time: 1/4s
-Number of Targets: 5
-Radius: 320
-Cooldown: 60s
-Range: 900
Nearby Allies gain Fire Shield (6 seconds)

I’d prefer something a bit more unique than a Fire shield. While our standing HoT is so much better than before, Necromancers still lack party support. While I’m not asking for massive buffs in that department, a one off skill like this would help our standing.

Necros need more power damage so

Well of Damage:
Deals like 40k in pvp, thinking like 100kish in pve
Unblockable

Lahmia.2193:

I’d prefer something a bit more unique than a Fire shield. While our standing HoT is so much better than before, Necromancers still lack party support. While I’m not asking for massive buffs in that department, a one off skill like this would help our standing.

Yeah but Necro support should be more than just 1 skill. The problem is not skills it’s that most PvE mobs don’t use boons. Necro is a debuff class so now that we’re good in PvP we suck (from a support stance) in high level PvE. If Anet would make more bosses and Champ lvl creatures really use boons we’d be in high demand.

What I’d like to seen in an elite well is something that gels well with some of our best builds. of course as a PvE WvW Wellomancer any decent elite well would be good for me but I’d like to see a well that MMs and Condi necros can use as well(No pun intended

How about a well that steals a bit from mesmers but thematically is all Necro
Well of Decay:
Recharge: 90
Transforms enemies into Undead (2 sec)
Interrupt
Undead replaces skill bar and reduces movement speed by 50%
Undead have health decay 3% per sec
Weakness (3 sec)
All allies siphon health from Undead with each hit.
Pulses 5
Range 900
Radious 240

Akrasia.5469:

Lahmia.2193:

I’d prefer something a bit more unique than a Fire shield. While our standing HoT is so much better than before, Necromancers still lack party support. While I’m not asking for massive buffs in that department, a one off skill like this would help our standing.

Yeah but Necro support should be more than just 1 skill. The problem is not skills it’s that most PvE mobs don’t use boons. Necro is a debuff class so now that we’re good in PvP we suck (from a support stance) in high level PvE. If Anet would make more bosses and Champ lvl creatures really use boons we’d be in high demand.

What I’d like to seen in an elite well is something that gels well with some of our best builds. of course as a PvE WvW Wellomancer any decent elite well would be good for me but I’d like to see a well that MMs and Condi necros can use as well(No pun intended

Oh I would love much more but remember we have 2 life bars. So our options will always be limited unless Shroud receives a big nerf.

Lahmia.2193:

Oh I would love much more but remember we have 2 life bars. So our options will always be limited unless Shroud receives a big nerf.

Necro has a conditional second life bar. It is not a real life bar and takes the place of invulnerability, hard CC, and evasions.

Necromancer is a face-tanker, unique among professions, dependant on Shroud for most damage mitigation, leaving minions for the rest.

Lahmia.2193:

Akrasia.5469:

Lahmia.2193:

I’d prefer something a bit more unique than a Fire shield. While our standing HoT is so much better than before, Necromancers still lack party support. While I’m not asking for massive buffs in that department, a one off skill like this would help our standing.

Yeah but Necro support should be more than just 1 skill. The problem is not skills it’s that most PvE mobs don’t use boons. Necro is a debuff class so now that we’re good in PvP we suck (from a support stance) in high level PvE. If Anet would make more bosses and Champ lvl creatures really use boons we’d be in high demand.

What I’d like to seen in an elite well is something that gels well with some of our best builds. of course as a PvE WvW Wellomancer any decent elite well would be good for me but I’d like to see a well that MMs and Condi necros can use as well(No pun intended

Oh I would love much more but remember we have 2 life bars. So our options will always be limited unless Shroud receives a big nerf.

The phrase “2nd life bar” is one of the reasons necros were so bad for so long. Please don’t say it again.. shhhhh don’t want the devs hearing that

To address your point seriously though. Necros have no other major defense so if they ever did nerf shrouds lifeforce pool we’d be the most squishy class in the game instantly. Now that many of our major issues have been improved (not fixed but improved) we have 1 main issue left which is synergy with other players. The main thing we have going for us that really sets us apart from other classes is boon and condition manipulation. It turns out that now we have decent use to a party in PvP and WvW but we don’t have as much to contribute in PvE because most mobs don’t use boons. Our last major buff we got a TON of boon removal and hardly any creatures to remove boons from. I really hope they make a few raids and some fractals that have creatures spamming boons. That’s the only way necro will be in high demand for PvE. It’s not to say we can’t hold our own but usually there’s a better option. This is probably why we have threads like this one asking for new Elites. We really want something to contribute. Most of our wells have some decent support feature so an elite well should hopefully help up work with others.

Well of Destruction: Elite well
Damages foes in the area with each tick. Does double damage against foes without boons on them. On each tick Well of Destruction gains the effects of every nearby active well cast by the player.
Damage: 400 per tick
Ticks: 8 (8 second duration)
90 sec CD
900 range

The ability to down multiple enemies at the same time with one skill is a bit OP in my book. I consider the function gyro OP too. That’s off topic though.
My idea for an elite well is a well that can utilize the effects of nearby active wells to become a supercharged pool of death when used right. The effect copy is every effect of the copied well including that well’s damage and only lasts while that well is in effect. If the copied well ends before well of destruction, well of destruction would lose the extra effect.
If WoD copied Well of Corruption, Well of suffering, and Well of darkness effects (since those wells were active) it would tick for nearly 2000 damage and with each tick strip a boon, blind enemies, and apply a stack of poison. Boonless enemies would take more damage.
This could be slightly OP. The downside of the skill is that to utilize it to maximum power you have to blow all your other wells. This puts your eggs in one basket to say, leaving you vulnerable while the wells are unavailable. The well effect copy only applies to wells cast by the same caster as the well of destruction. It won’t take effects from other necromancers’ wells or chronomancer wells. Pre-nerf ideas:
- 50% more damage for boonless targets
- only take 50% of damage effects from other wells.

Elite wells? they should be removing wells altogether and replace them with something that does not involve someone having to stand in a small circle for it to be effective.

Well i think an elite well should do something “special”, just adding some blatant conditions to have a condi well isnt the way to go.

Well of the Lich:
Pulsing high Damage and Healing.
Deals 17% damage to downed enemies per tick, rezzes allies for 17% per tick.

or

Well of the Abyss:
Small damage per tick.
Enemies lose all boons and cant apply boons while inside.
Enemies cant clear conditions or stunbreak while inside the well.
Allies gain resistance for each second inside of the well.

Well of Miasma
Unleash a torrent of foul energy, applying conditions on your foes and transferring conditions from allies to foes.
Applies 3 stacks of 5 sec torment
Applies 3 stacks of 5 sec poison
Applies 5 sec of chill
Applies 3 stacks of 5 sec burning
Applies 5 sec of blind
Transfers 2 conditions per pulse
Per pulse
On final pulse applies 3 sec of fear as well.
Range 900
Radius 480
180 sec cooldown

Personally I’d like more access to burning