Engi's Automated Response Trait

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Posted by: KarlaGrey.5903

KarlaGrey.5903

Automated Response trait: Grants immunity to conditions when the inflictor has over 100% duration.

Makes pure condi classes quite a joke, because it in essence gives them a double mini form that way.
Why not adding an icon showing the trait just kicked in is beyond me…wasting marks etc. only to realize they’re immune to everything, including the little bit of damage marks/wand and focus aoe do, is quite meow kitty kitten.

One more thing…is it just me/lag, or are marks cast more slowly now? I’m missing with 1/4 casts which never happened before the update. Meows me off far more than the immunity trait.

P.S. Seems they also updated DS 2nd skill, because I have the feeling the grasp travels somewhat faster now.

P.S.#2 I miss the old DS look. Changing it after 7 months is just…heh.

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Posted by: blurps.2340

blurps.2340

What the trait actually does is “Become immune to conditions when health is below 25%”. It didn’t work if inflictor had more than 100% + duration, that was a bugfix.

I don’t think anyone uses Automated Response though. Pretty much the only viable builds Engineers have left after the “love patch” require HGH and that goes into the same slot ( Grandmaster Alchemy ).

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Posted by: Ezeriel.9574

Ezeriel.9574

it only worked on conditions added after you were already at 25%.. so conditions added at 26% would still be ticking away.

it was a lousy skill since kit refinement was on a 10 second cooldown, and by switching to elixirgun you auto-casted super elixir and still had your normal super elixir on a 20 second cooldown.

I never really paid much attention, but I’m pretty sure, super elixir removed all conditions on impact.

So who needed Automated Response, when you had a condition wipe on a 10 second cooldown?

..and now engineers are so bad, I wouldn’t worry about them.

Watch out for confusion… that’s about all they have.

The only way to play the engineer is to exploit it.
Playing the engineer “as intended” is simply not viable.

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Posted by: PinCushion.7390

PinCushion.7390

Watch out for confusion… that’s about all they have.

I enjoy giving their confusion back to them, and then giving that to their friends. It’s funny.

I still die, but I die laughing.

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Posted by: KarlaGrey.5903

KarlaGrey.5903

Well, that trait also cancels out all damage (what little there is) from condition-inflicting attack skills, so a pure condmancer can in effect deal no damage whatsoever once they hit 25%, bar for wand n3 hitting for a whooping 500ish. And the kitten thing seems to last forever, too.
Whatever.

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Posted by: lettucemode.3789

lettucemode.3789

They still take damage from conditions already on them IIRC. You just can’t apply new ones.

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Posted by: Zinwrath.2049

Zinwrath.2049

Its really not that great of a trait….in that rare scenerio it saved your life great, but almost no one specs it because of the alternate options being good all the time, instead of situational like AR

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Posted by: Bas.7406

Bas.7406

it only worked on conditions added after you were already at 25%.. so conditions added at 26% would still be ticking away.

it was a lousy skill since kit refinement was on a 10 second cooldown, and by switching to elixirgun you auto-casted super elixir and still had your normal super elixir on a 20 second cooldown.

I never really paid much attention, but I’m pretty sure, super elixir removed all conditions on impact.

So who needed Automated Response, when you had a condition wipe on a 10 second cooldown?

..and now engineers are so bad, I wouldn’t worry about them.

Watch out for confusion… that’s about all they have.

I am really glad you are on the Necro forums now. It always bothers me when someone comments as to how strong Engineers are now, when I saw the changes and went ouch. In fact most Engineers hate that trait and rarely take it, because of the point you made.

In fact, I think you have disputed several claims already on the forums about Engineer and other classes abilities that are widely known in their community as bad traits.

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Posted by: Kardiamond.6952

Kardiamond.6952

To add to Ezeriel, it’s not only because we could use EG KR.

Most engineer don’t use this trait because ->

- It’s in the same line as HGH and Formula 409.

Formula 409 is a master trait, and remove a condition each time you use an Elixir. That’s a lot of removal. Taking Automated response would be over kill.

HGH is a GM trait, like Automated response. And if you are going in that trait line, 90% chance are you are using at least 2 Elixir Utility. HGH can stack up to 25 mights, which is a lot better then automated response that is uselful in like 5% of the fights.

Automated response is lacking, and is not in a good place in the engineer trait line.

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Posted by: KarlaGrey.5903

KarlaGrey.5903

Must be just my luck then to be facing a fair amount of engis running that trait then. It is fairly demoralizing to see them nearly dead, yourself on 50%, but end up running away or dying because your damage is reduced to 500 every 10 seconds for what seems to be an eternity.
Meowing kitten cat.
Who makes such traits………………

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Posted by: Kardiamond.6952

Kardiamond.6952

Just stack all your conditions before they get to 25% hp. You shouldn’t have an issue finishing them.

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Posted by: Bas.7406

Bas.7406

Must be just my luck then to be facing a fair amount of engis running that trait then. It is fairly demoralizing to see them nearly dead, yourself on 50%, but end up running away or dying because your damage is reduced to 500 every 10 seconds for what seems to be an eternity.
Meowing kitten cat.
Who makes such traits………………

Save death shroud until they hit 25 percent as well pop into it and hammer them also use staff at that point, it’s amazing how much damage it does.