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Posted by: Holl.3109

Holl.3109

Heyo fellow necro’s,

Guessing most of you know me from my videos, and I often get great responses about them, but often I hear nothing about the build. Therefore, I just wanted to make this quick thread about my 3 main builds for PvP (where I play necro the most) and would appreciate some feedback. Now these builds are still fairly meta but with my own little twist on each of them.

So if anyone could just take a look at everything, from the weapons to the sigils I would really appreciate any feedback since I’m always wanting to get better. Without further ado, the buils:

1. Offensive power necro (6/2/0/0/6)
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fRAQNAodWjc00SbfNG3whbibhC6AYAehoGBqfj0IaB-TpBFwACeAANOCA12fYxhAoaZAAnAAA

-Sigils are what i’m not 100% sure about, and also downed state trait… lol

2. Defensive-ish tanky-ish spectral necromancer (2/6/0/0/6)
http://gw2skills.net/editor/fRAQNBIhZakjmWartx4GOcTgMUQ9kRHAFwBQdTEFvKA-TpBFwACeAANOCA12fYxhAoaZAAnAAA

-No wurm… :/ but awesome LF regen.

3. Tanky-ish PoC/FitG conditionmancer (0/6/2/0/6)
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fRAQNBLhZakjmyb7rx4G+bTEMUS1CRfABw5SdSEFNBA-TZhHABBt/AAPBgjKDEwhAA4TAAA

-Sigils again not sure about…

Thanks for taking the time to look at them, always appreciate feedback!
-Hollts

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Posted by: Rolisteel.1375

Rolisteel.1375

downed state trait is kinda meh. close to useless you are getting stealth stomped always in top games. or knockbacked away. your damage obstructed. low range you getting killed from better range.

so reapers might better. if you get stomped/stealth stomped a lot. and they avoid your downstate.

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Posted by: necrofail.7439

necrofail.7439

downed state trait is kinda meh. close to useless you are getting stealth stomped always in top games. or knockbacked away. your damage obstructed. low range you getting killed from better range.

so reapers might better. if you get stomped/stealth stomped a lot. and they avoid your downstate.

de is better. forcing them to stealth stomp you or quickness stomp you everytime or get melted. holl is probably in higher level games than you are.

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Posted by: Rolisteel.1375

Rolisteel.1375

I’m in top20 games with 6-8 mins queue usually.

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Posted by: Flumek.9043

Flumek.9043

Downstate is still the best minor u can take there and its actually pretty good.

Just look at it like it makes u win 5/10 1v1s instead of 4. Same for teamfights, the added danger that comes with whoever is near the necro is far better than the 1-5% more damage you will have from the lifeblasts (if they hit with all our slow cast problems)
Just makimg the thief back of instead of cleaving makes the rezz much more likely

I think i win 1 encounter every 1-2 games just cz of the downstate

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Posted by: Rolisteel.1375

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Yes its good for 1v1. but in conquest you are not 1v1 as they always finish off necro first. there are always atleast 2-3 players on me. played my last match with pugs vs orange logo, cheese mode premade. i got rekt wasnt be able to use downstate the whole match. + 2 stealth stomping chars.

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Posted by: Forsaker.9213

Forsaker.9213

Downstate trait is the only good pick there and its rly storng , i would even say i bit broken. I had a game , 4v4 on close point , i was on power neco and i had 1 guy on power necro in my team. Well we were loosing that fight and me and the other necro went down and enemy team was busy with finishing 2 other ppl from my team and what happend? My + the second necro killed them all from downstate.

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Posted by: Rav.9475

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3. Tanky-ish PoC/FitG conditionmancer (0/6/2/0/6)
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fRAQNBLhZakjmyb7rx4G+bTEMUS1CRfABw5SdSEFNBA-TZhHABBt/AAPBgjKDEwhAA4TAAA

-Sigils again not sure about…

This is the only build I can comment on as I don’t play a power necro in PvP. I would say it’s good but, like you, I am not sure about that Torment sigil. Personally I would swap it for another Energy sigil as you can’t have too many dodges.

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Posted by: necrofail.7439

necrofail.7439

I’m in top20 games with 6-8 mins queue usually.

Please don’t use leaderboards to try and imply some sort of skill. You play lots of games. But your winrate is still average.

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Posted by: Holl.3109

Holl.3109

Currently I’m still debating between reapers might and downed state trait. RM adds very little damage, but at least its usable in every fight. You really do notice tons of extra downed dmg though with the trait, so when you go down you’re not done yet.

I’ll probably take the extra dodge Rav, torment sig does too little. Thanks for teh tip.

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Posted by: Sagat.3285

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I’m disturbed by your condi build but get rid of Master of Terror ,Nightmare Runes are enough to give 2 procs of terror even if not full 2 secs.

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Posted by: Rolisteel.1375

Rolisteel.1375

I’m in top20 games with 6-8 mins queue usually.

Please don’t use leaderboards to try and imply some sort of skill. You play lots of games. But your winrate is still average.

my win rate avarage as i made powernecro there with pugs and always playing with pugs vs others and pro premade teams. im between 50-52% its up to i get a pug that can peel for me ( usually not but rarely happens. ) or they just let me get jumped on by 3 peoples that follows me till i don’t die 1v3. Other power necro have better win rate because playing a lot of premade. he is about 53%

You can belive me it’s not easy.

But im always ready too see what you are able to do solo ranked maybe i learn something.

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Posted by: NeXeD.3042

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I’m in top20 games with 6-8 mins queue usually.

Please don’t use leaderboards to try and imply some sort of skill. You play lots of games. But your winrate is still average.

my win rate avarage as i made powernecro there with pugs and always playing with pugs vs others and pro premade teams. im between 50-52% its up to i get a pug that can carry for me ( usually not but rarely happens. ) or they just let me get jumped on by 3 peoples that follows me till i don’t die 1v3. Other power necro have better win rate because playing a lot of premade. he is about 53%

You can belive me it’s not easy.

But im always ready too see what you are able to do solo ranked maybe i learn something.

It’s possible to have a good winrate as a soloq powermancer, the good players will stay at around 60% winrate even in soloq. Anything higher is even better, most of the time when you see people with any5hing over 65% they probably only q with premades.

But he is right you shouldn’t use these leaderboards to show skill it does just show you play ALOT. You’ll probably get better from iT though.

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Posted by: Rolisteel.1375

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Can you tell me the name of the power necro that have 60% win rate and only play power necro and not boosting win rate with premades or proffs like engineer or elementalist etc? Im not using leaderboards to show skill. I just meant to say i get a lot better skilled enemies than before. I have to play against orange logo cheese mode salt premades and others and btw the guy said that Holl is in higher level games. So what higher level games he meant?

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Posted by: NeXeD.3042

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Can you tell me the name of the power necro that have 60% win rate and only play power necro and not boosting win rate with premades or proffs like engineer or elementalist etc? Im not using leaderboards to show skill. I just meant to say i get a lot better skilled enemies than before. I have to play against orange logo cheese mode salt premades and others and btw the guy said that Holl is in higher level games. So what higher level games he meant?

Well I for one stay at around a 60% or above winrate and I soloq. As far as matchmaking goes…. I know you saying you are playing agaisnt the most recent WTS champions… and I’m not saying you are lying or anything but with a 50% winrate and the amount if games you have I’d say it’s more likely you play so much that’s why you have seen them in games. You also mentioned you get wrekt by them not surprising I would too…. I think it’s possible playing some games agaisnt orng may just be a little polarizing so you tend to remember those games more, but may forget when you play low level players. I know I for one remember when I end up in games with players I’ve seen in tournaments more often than I remember the games with people where I can just run around pressing 1 with abandon.

I don’t really know what the other guy means about higher level games, but I would have guess holls mmr is higher than yours but if you truly are just getting orng 55HP the French team whatever they are called nowadays consistently when you q then maybe I’m wrong.

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Posted by: Holl.3109

Holl.3109

(sorry for super late reply, I’m lazy and don’t check the forums too much)

Anyway as long as the leaderboard for PvP ‘skill’, is still farming and playing the most matches it doesn’t prove kitten. I’m currently ~90% with ~60% mmr and 55 games… but again that says nothing.

I’m disturbed by your condi build but get rid of Master of Terror ,Nightmare Runes are enough to give 2 procs of terror even if not full 2 secs.

Are you sure about this? And also, why are you distured? :P

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Posted by: GoogleBrandon.5073

GoogleBrandon.5073

(sorry for super late reply, I’m lazy and don’t check the forums too much)

Anyway as long as the leaderboard for PvP ‘skill’, is still farming and playing the most matches it doesn’t prove kitten. I’m currently ~90% with ~60% mmr and 55 games… but again that says nothing.

I’m disturbed by your condi build but get rid of Master of Terror ,Nightmare Runes are enough to give 2 procs of terror even if not full 2 secs.

Are you sure about this? And also, why are you distured? :P

I think it was because MoT did not give the increased damage ever since the buff or something like that… Read over it too quickly, but I recal people stating that you can disregard MoT nowadays unless you really like the CC

And how is Hemophilia treating you in your condi build? I have been running Weakening Shround since… well forever basically, so I never thought about it much

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Posted by: Czerny.6530

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I wish the matchmaking was a little better. I have a little more than a hundred games solo with ~65% win rate and it’s only been the last few matches where I felt outclassed in individual skill.

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Posted by: Gizmorage.6412

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i’ve pretty much been using a variant of that condi build for ages now so definitely positive on it, except that torment sigil, i can’t see it being too reliable with less than 50 per cent crit chance. i’d go for frailty if you really wanted to add a cover condition (alright it does no damage but one stack of torment won’t do much either, plus it’s a reliable 1 stack of vuln every two seconds).

personally i’ve been favoring weakening shroud over hemophilia for ages. even if it’s a shadow of its former self with good timing it’ll still kitten up a quick setup burst.
Also, didn’t know master of terror was not a necessary slot anymore now, definitely will play around with soul marks then as it has been one of my favorite traits for ages

oh, and holl is a scrub, quit debating his MMR already O.O

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