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Posted by: Vendetta.5026

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This is strictly regarding PVP because there’s where the real challenge is at.

So despite the necromancer being one of the more harder to play classes, it’s also one of the least rewarding. It takes a lot of effort to successfully play a necro well in pvp, yet it falls short out of most classes.

-I personally enjoy condition necro, which most of you know in current meta, it’s pretty bad.
-If you play minion necro, it’s even worse…the AI on the minions is next to ret**ded besides other issues.
-If you play power necro, it’s somewhat better at 1v1 engagements but still less effective than a warrior or guardian or thief or mesmer…or most classes

So basically however you put it, necromancers fall short, besides being a difficult class to master.

In the current state, i’d say it’s somewhat of a “bad” support class. Support class because most of the stuff you can’t do by yourself, and “bad” because it’s pretty much weak at supporting too.
If you think this is normal Anet, then pls specify in Character Creation: “Necromancer – weak support class, mostly ineffective”. So that people can avoid it in time and not get to fall in love with it.

An easy solution would be to aviod playing necro in pvp, but a lot of people, including myself, simply love this class. I wouldn’t trade it for any warrior/guardian/mesmer/thief even as weak as it is.

Please enhance the necro class and bring it up to level with the others. It’s current state is depressing. Make conditions more effective or give it an escape mechanic, personally, i think making condition damage more effective on the necro class, would be the best choice

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Posted by: seanshine.8791

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What? This is the vaguest qq thread I’ve ever seen. This is a simple matter of L2P.

Please enhance the necro class and bring it up to level with the others. It’s current state is depressing. Make conditions more effective or give it an escape mechanic, personally, i think making condition damage more effective on the necro class, would be the best choice

This makes absolutely NO sense. “More effective”?! WTF do you mean by that. I main necro in PVP and I have no issues. It’s a matter of learning how to play and your party composition.

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Posted by: NeXeD.3042

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Condi necro is our best in pvp. I think this may be a l2p issue man. Really the only weaknesses with condi necro in pvp is mobility and stability. Both of these problems are fixed by team coordination and “positioning” I really hate that kittening term though.

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Posted by: Muchacho.2390

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I would already be happy if they allowed the siphon health traits in bloodmagic and the first minor in spite to work while in DS…..

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Posted by: Pelopidas.2140

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Nah man, necro doesnt have a high cap ceiling, its one of the easy classes to master. Also cheese builds like MM wreck noobs, and condi, especially terror builds, even with the dhuumfire nerf, still do crazy damage. Same with power necro, i find power necro very effective, cause soft cc+5k life blasts+condis(dhuumfire, DS#2+5)=easy wins. The problem necro faces is in high pvp tiers, where he cant escape the CC focus easily.. But if they don’t focus him, they will lose the teamfight…Cause necro is one of the best offensive supports, if not the best.
Supports himself through hp siphon..lf builds as he attacks…necro has very good access to protection…i can elaborate more if you want..

Team support: Blinds, chills, cripples, poison, boon corruption, weakness…You can also take traits like transfusion or use vamp signet…Try to make a build with Well of Corruption, Well of Power, CPC and plague and maybe you will understand abit how necro support works…and see it’s not ’’bad’’
I’ve also toyed with heal support builds and they weren’t very bad, you have to keep your mind on rotations and you can be effective.
And imo playing as a bunker is also an option if you focus on spectral skills/lf regen.

You don’t have a guardian, you don’t play with boons, you play with debuffs. Don’t play necro like a guardian or a thief, use its strengths instead of falling short with its weaknesses. Lemons=lemonade.

And your last point…the class produces to much dps through condis, thats why we got nerfed on Mark of Evasion, Mark of Blood, Grasping Dead (and terror but thats dhuumfires fault). There is no way we get more damage through conditions

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Posted by: GoogleBrandon.5073

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No, Necromaners are not underpowered in PvP… If executed well, you can be able to shut down many classes as a condition based necromancer – much like most classes…

Even better, Necromancers fill a niche – boon corruption, which is extremely potent in the hands of a good player…

I do think that Necromaner builds are underpeforming and could be tweaked a bit to make them fit their “theme” more, namely them outlasting your opponent (Via DS)

If you want to see underpowered and outclassed, look at ranger for PvP… Yes, spirits work to some extend, but eles can offer almost the same a ranger build can (as in soft support) yet be faster and more sustainable than said ranger..

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Posted by: Muchacho.2390

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Same with power necro, i find power necro very effective, cause soft cc+5k life blasts+condis(dhuumfire, DS#2+5)=easy wins.

How the hell do you get 5k life blasts in spvp? 25 stacks might+ 25stack blood lust?

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Posted by: Pelopidas.2140

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certainly not bloodlust, and certainly not against bunker guards. But against a squishy ele/thief after focus #4? 5k isn’t too hard to get…and without close to death. With close to death, focus 4 and sigil of air/fire and zerk amulet, 13might and chill of death you can down a squishy thief in 5-6 seconds

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Posted by: NeXeD.3042

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Nah man, necro doesnt have a high cap ceiling, its one of the easy classes to master. Also cheese builds like MM wreck noobs, and condi, especially terror builds, even with the dhuumfire nerf, still do crazy damage. Same with power necro, i find power necro very effective, cause soft cc+5k life blasts+condis(dhuumfire, DS#2+5)=easy wins. The problem necro faces is in high pvp tiers, where he cant escape the CC focus easily.. But if they don’t focus him, they will lose the teamfight…Cause necro is one of the best offensive supports, if not the best.
Supports himself through hp siphon..lf builds as he attacks…necro has very good access to protection…i can elaborate more if you want..

Team support: Blinds, chills, cripples, poison, boon corruption, weakness…You can also take traits like transfusion or use vamp signet…Try to make a build with Well of Corruption, Well of Power, CPC and plague and maybe you will understand abit how necro support works…and see it’s not ’’bad’’
I’ve also toyed with heal support builds and they weren’t very bad, you have to keep your mind on rotations and you can be effective.
And imo playing as a bunker is also an option if you focus on spectral skills/lf regen.

You don’t have a guardian, you don’t play with boons, you play with debuffs. Don’t play necro like a guardian or a thief, use its strengths instead of falling short with its weaknesses. Lemons=lemonade.

And your last point…the class produces to much dps through condis, thats why we got nerfed on Mark of Evasion, Mark of Blood, Grasping Dead (and terror but thats dhuumfires fault). There is no way we get more damage through conditions

If necro’s ceiling is so low why is there so few necro’s in high tier pvp?

Heal support builds for necro are kittening awful.

People don’t focus the necro because they are dangerous. They focus the necro because they are the easiest class to lock down and kill especially if you do it early before he has a chance to build any LF.

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Posted by: Bellamy.9860

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Condi is in a decent shape and has unique features with corruption and terror mechanics but minions are broken and power is gimmicky due to overall necro problems (class mechanic shutting down traits & sigils, lack of stab, lack of mobility).

But my biggest gripe with necro in pvp is that it feels like they put a caster class out of some old school mmo into gw2.
No cleave, no mobility, projectile or simple “on target” mechanics everywhere, long cast times and boring drop down AoE.
It just feels out of place between all the movement and cleavin AoE carnage, especially since the defense is simply stat based (tough, vit push survivability – everywhere else it is invul, dodge, teleport).

I like the class a lot but the implementation is really archaic…

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Posted by: Prophet.1038

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Necromancer’s are under powered in the sense that we don’t see any in the top 4 teams of ToL. Instead we see: double warriors/guards/ranger/thief/engi/eles/mez.

The teams that win the tournaments are bunker as we saw with apex and kpex. Kpex being a new team formed ALMOST the same bunker comp as apex and made it to the finals. That just shows how kittened bunker wins.

Lets look at it this way:
Guards : brings good support to team and has decentCC . Tank- has invul skill and 2 blocks with stable and protection.

Warriors: hambow kittening gg – Heavy damage with CC with double endure pain and zerker stance with 8s or w.e stable. Tank

Elementalist : Bunker clerics heal bot – Brings good CC and decent dmg to team while having the utility to drop signet to rez team (Chubbz build)

Ranger : Can be very useful for 1 v 1 fights, spirits still decent, especially the spirit that rez’s and turn the fight around.

Engineer: Prob not as strong as the other above classes. Bring good CC and condi damage lacks condi cleanse, decent for team support. God at soloq though rofl.

Mesmer: I was pretty surprised to see a Mesmer in the top 2 in EU let alone win. Helseth’s build is strong in team support while lacks heavy condi cleanse. He can stand on point and hold it for a while.

Thief – great for mobility, team support in the sense comes to point burst damage leaves.

Necromancer – brings good CC and heavy condi damage if its not being focused.

Here is the problem with the class of necro, you can go condi but good teams know which are the weakest targets and atm it’s necros. Necros lack mobility for obvious answer ( anet wants attrition class), downstate is pretty much a double down since single target and long cast time, if you get hit you’ll be taking in all the damage. At that point its useless to bring a necro when the moiblity is the same as a guard who can do A LOT more for the team or the hambow build.

Necromancer cannot stand on point or they will be taking heavy damage, the other bunker classes can take heavy damage while still being effective to their team. Example bunker ele/hambow these two classes can bring good damage and CC while standing on point and taking in the damage.

Basically in ToL if you are in team fights you are running around trying to dodge to reduce damage, use your warm and spectral walk to get away from the fight. Because most cases you’ll be the first target. So basically doing not much for your team. Other classes atm can do a lot more in team fights, bring good support and burst damage.

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Posted by: getzzzonked.7609

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Same with power necro, i find power necro very effective, cause soft cc+5k life blasts+condis(dhuumfire, DS#2+5)=easy wins.

How the hell do you get 5k life blasts in spvp? 25 stacks might+ 25stack blood lust?

You can push 7k life blasts as a full glass cannon. Not recommended unless you’re playing with a team who will keep people off your back though.

To OP: You want the profession to be something it’s not. I personally hate playing Condi, and am a full on Powermancer. If you expect to be able to go 1v1, or 2v1 with ANY other profession, you’re expecting too much.

As a glass cannon, if I meet any other glass cannon, I stand a chance. If I stay out of the way and nuke a point with team mates holding it, I dominate.
BUT, if I try to go up against a Bunker Anything, or a Condi anything, I’m kittened. I get over it and move on.

It sounds like you want Necro to be the best at whatever you want it to do, but that’s not how sPvP balance works. Everything has a kitten in it’s armour. Find what your Necro’s is and don’t let anyone near it.

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Posted by: NeXeD.3042

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I love when I run into glass cannon necros, easy kill. They can’t get away, lifeblast cast so slow and so easy to dodge. If they are dagger just kite em, if they are axe just dodge or interrupt axe 2 gg.

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Posted by: getzzzonked.7609

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I love when I run into glass cannon necros, easy kill. They can’t get away, lifeblast cast so slow and so easy to dodge. If they are dagger just kite em, if they are axe just dodge or interrupt axe 2 gg.

What do you play?

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Posted by: NeXeD.3042

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Sry that geomancy sigil on the first one should be another energy sigil.

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Posted by: Muchacho.2390

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Same with power necro, i find power necro very effective, cause soft cc+5k life blasts+condis(dhuumfire, DS#2+5)=easy wins.

How the hell do you get 5k life blasts in spvp? 25 stacks might+ 25stack blood lust?

You can push 7k life blasts as a full glass cannon. Not recommended unless you’re playing with a team who will keep people off your back though.

7k lifeblasts in spvp? Sorry but until i see that i cannot belive it, so would you be so nice to prove me that this is possible?

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Posted by: getzzzonked.7609

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Same with power necro, i find power necro very effective, cause soft cc+5k life blasts+condis(dhuumfire, DS#2+5)=easy wins.

How the hell do you get 5k life blasts in spvp? 25 stacks might+ 25stack blood lust?

You can push 7k life blasts as a full glass cannon. Not recommended unless you’re playing with a team who will keep people off your back though.

7k lifeblasts in spvp? Sorry but until i see that i cannot belive it, so would you be so nice to prove me that this is possible?

55 seconds in, 6.1k with only 7 stacks of Vul and full might. No BL sigil, and he isn’t running Blood is Power. I’m not watching the whole video to look for more though, sorry.
EDIT: I mention Blood is power, cos getting 25 stacks can be tricky in a fight, as things die so fast.

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Posted by: Pelopidas.2140

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Same with power necro, i find power necro very effective, cause soft cc+5k life blasts+condis(dhuumfire, DS#2+5)=easy wins.

How the hell do you get 5k life blasts in spvp? 25 stacks might+ 25stack blood lust?

You can push 7k life blasts as a full glass cannon. Not recommended unless you’re playing with a team who will keep people off your back though.

7k lifeblasts in spvp? Sorry but until i see that i cannot belive it, so would you be so nice to prove me that this is possible?

55 seconds in, 6.1k with only 7 stacks of Vul and full might. No BL sigil, and he isn’t running Blood is Power. I’m not watching the whole video to look for more though, sorry.
EDIT: I mention Blood is power, cos getting 25 stacks can be tricky in a fight, as things die so fast.

Just mentioning this guy uses reapers precision, which is 1% lf every 3 crits, if you go death magic you pick 10%boon duration, extra toughness in ds and the first major slot has 4 traits worth taking in the build

Nah man, necro doesnt have a high cap ceiling, its one of the easy classes to master. Also cheese builds like MM wreck noobs, and condi, especially terror builds, even with the dhuumfire nerf, still do crazy damage. Same with power necro, i find power necro very effective, cause soft cc+5k life blasts+condis(dhuumfire, DS#2+5)=easy wins. The problem necro faces is in high pvp tiers, where he cant escape the CC focus easily.. But if they don’t focus him, they will lose the teamfight…Cause necro is one of the best offensive supports, if not the best.
Supports himself through hp siphon..lf builds as he attacks…necro has very good access to protection…i can elaborate more if you want..

Team support: Blinds, chills, cripples, poison, boon corruption, weakness…You can also take traits like transfusion or use vamp signet…Try to make a build with Well of Corruption, Well of Power, CPC and plague and maybe you will understand abit how necro support works…and see it’s not ’’bad’’
I’ve also toyed with heal support builds and they weren’t very bad, you have to keep your mind on rotations and you can be effective.
And imo playing as a bunker is also an option if you focus on spectral skills/lf regen.

You don’t have a guardian, you don’t play with boons, you play with debuffs. Don’t play necro like a guardian or a thief, use its strengths instead of falling short with its weaknesses. Lemons=lemonade.

And your last point…the class produces to much dps through condis, thats why we got nerfed on Mark of Evasion, Mark of Blood, Grasping Dead (and terror but thats dhuumfires fault). There is no way we get more damage through conditions

If necro’s ceiling is so low why is there so few necro’s in high tier pvp?

Heal support builds for necro are kittening awful.

People don’t focus the necro because they are dangerous. They focus the necro because they are the easiest class to lock down and kill especially if you do it early before he has a chance to build any LF.

Warriors have low ceiling and they are in high tier. Eles have high ceiling and they are in high tier. I think heal builds can be effective, but thats just me…
There are ways to avoid the focus, and build lf before/while in the fight, and i hope you know them. And we have stability, protection,retal access…which not too many use…As to how we are dangerous in teamfights : Well of Corruption, Life Blasts, Plague, Staff…

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Posted by: Holl.3109

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Same with power necro, i find power necro very effective, cause soft cc+5k life blasts+condis(dhuumfire, DS#2+5)=easy wins.

How the hell do you get 5k life blasts in spvp? 25 stacks might+ 25stack blood lust?

You can push 7k life blasts as a full glass cannon. Not recommended unless you’re playing with a team who will keep people off your back though.

7k lifeblasts in spvp? Sorry but until i see that i cannot belive it, so would you be so nice to prove me that this is possible?

6.3k with only some vuln and might. Build is in volume #3… I’ve gotten 7.3k but I wasn’t recording than.

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Posted by: Holl.3109

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Necro isn’t the most optimized class for PvP but if you enter a team fight 10 seconds after everyone else they will barely notice that a necro is among them.

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Posted by: NeXeD.3042

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10 seconds is a long long time. Better hope your teammate can recover from that, I know for a fact I’d be kittened if my teammate waited that long.

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Posted by: Bhawb.7408

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Condi is basically okay in PvP. There are still a few issues that need solving like LF generation on scepter, but the build is still viable in the hands of the right people.

Power has even seen use in high tier teams now, and frankly a power necro carried the hell out of his team in the MP tournament by winning every fight he used Lich in. Does it need help? Yep, and I am not convinced its really viable, but its seen use.

MM of course needs help, but that is mainly fixing AI and a few other issues.

And other builds, like spectral bunker, well support, etc. all need new content to work.

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Posted by: Pelopidas.2140

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While i like the idea, i dont think scepter lf regen is getting a buff, would make condi builds too tanky…

Whats the problem in your opinion with spectral bunkers ?

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Posted by: Bhawb.7408

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While i like the idea, i dont think scepter lf regen is getting a buff, would make condi builds too tanky…

Whats the problem in your opinion with spectral bunkers ?

Necromancers are supposed to have sustain, but scepter/dagger has no sustain. They nerfed our damage multiple times without a single compensation, LF generation wouldn’t break it.

Spectral bunkers don’t have good weapons to use, imo. All the weapons we have are okay (depending on if you are condi or power with spectrals), but not amazing. We really need a weapon with CC (like warrior hammer), a support weapon (since our staff’s support has been gutted), or one with lots of non-damaging condis (like a greatsword that gave cleaving poison/weakness/chill/boon removal, something like that). Basically spectral bunkers atm just don’t die, they don’t provide much else other than not-dying.

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Posted by: NeXeD.3042

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Spectral bunkers could be fixed or at least helped by making lifeblast cast faster and maybe making the projectile faster, something would have to be done about reapers might though.

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Posted by: Bhawb.7408

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Spectral bunkers could be fixed or at least helped by making lifeblast cast faster and maybe making the projectile faster, something would have to be done about reapers might though.

Increasing zerker Necro DPS would have issues, LB already deals a significant amount of damage per cast.

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Posted by: NeXeD.3042

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Spectral bunkers could be fixed or at least helped by making lifeblast cast faster and maybe making the projectile faster, something would have to be done about reapers might though.

Increasing zerker Necro DPS would have issues, LB already deals a significant amount of damage per cast.

Yeah I guess, I wouldn’t mind if they even nerfed the damage on it to bring it inline with the dps it has now, I just want to land the stupid attack on some of those classes that evade, block or just flat out run away.

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Posted by: Pelopidas.2140

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I’m not even sure we are ever getting new weapons-skillsets…would love a sword, but if the dev team takes so long to proof minor skill changes (see all the bugs reported for all classes that stay not fixed), i cant imagine how long a new weapon+animations and damage calculations changes would take..
And a spectral bunker is camping in ds all day or dances in and out, so our offensive weapon are the DS Skills…yeah i too would prefer lower damage and faster cast of Life Blast, it can be so hard to land sometimes.
Anyway i have a wonderful spectral ’’bunker’’ build, so I believe that we can handle ourselves in a point even 1v2 and win most 1v1s ’’spectrally’’.

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Posted by: Vendetta.5026

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It’s been a year or more since i last posted on the forums.
I tend to avoid it because one: nothing really gets done. And two: last i remember the forum community was filled with id*ots contradicting good topics and giving all kinds of brain dead advice. Not to mention the part were they act like they are gw2 game gods.
For example the issue i’ve posted is very real. Yet the first people to post were a bunch of trolls:
seanshine.8791
NeXeD.3042
Muchacho.2390
Pelopidas.2140

All these guys besides being offensive and implying im a noob although they have no idea what they are talking about, none of them make the Leaderboards.

Dear trolls, when you actually get in the first 1000 in spvp, maybe then you could give some advice regarding how to play a necro. Untill then, you have no idea how it is to play necro at high tier pvp, therefore you cannot give your input regarding the class balance when you never faced a real good opponent.

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Posted by: Pelopidas.2140

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Dont make misinformative bad threads, then it won’t be implied by anyone that you are a noob. And you won’t feel trolled.
Secondly what did you expect, people posted answers and made conversation. Thats what happens in threads. Did you expect answers only from the people that currently make the leaderboards, or the devs?? On a whiny post, according to which necro falls short everywhere and needs more condition damage ?

Anyway if only the top 1000 posted on the forums, you couldnt make this thread. And you wouldnt know if im the 1001 person in the leaderboards, true you have no idea if i know what i am talking about, so if you dont like something i said, provide argument as to why its wrong. Else keep your kitten to yourself.

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Posted by: NeXeD.3042

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I think someone’s jimmies have been rustled.

I’m quite a bit higher on the leaderboards than you actually.

You’ve got like 10 games played in tpvp.

I think your post was intended for yourself maybe?

My mistake that vendetta with like 10 games played isn’t even so it’s possible that you have lots of tpvp games played and still have not broken out of the percentages…

Also I really wasn’t trying to be offensive towards you, we all have our own l2p issues mine happen to be against engineers and s/d theives. I know we are supposed to hard counter those celestial engis but I still get my kitten kicked by good ones.

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Posted by: Vendetta.5026

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When you get in top 500 come back and post. until then you two look like parrots rambling about things that surpass your skill level.

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Posted by: Furious.2867

Furious.2867

…it all seems like a blur to me but I think the last time necros got a buff was from the June 2013 update. Then everything went downhill from there. It’s still a fun class to play but the margin for errors aren’t as forgiving

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Posted by: Vendetta.5026

Vendetta.5026

…it all seems like a blur to me but I think the last time necros got a buff was from the June 2013 update. Then everything went downhill from there. It’s still a fun class to play but the margin for errors aren’t as forgiving

yup. i also play war and guardian. They are miles easier and more efficient, especially the warrior. I can usually 1v2 with warrior and win, sometimes even hold my own 1v3. Yet with necro, 1v1 is a challange and 1v2 is just hope to hang on untill some1 gets there…

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Posted by: Holl.3109

Holl.3109

With necro you have to find your playstyle and keep to that playstyle and improve upon it. For me that’s power. Having played a powermancer for almost a year now 1v1’s are fun and I win 9/10 times but the real problem is group fights, which is a problem for most necro’s.
When you mention this in the forums people throw out the terms ‘positioning’ and ‘being focused’ and that’s it’s all their fault. I myself have no ideas on how to improve as a necro in team fights but I reccomend you don’t take “standard answers” (like ’it’s because you’re a necro’ and ‘we lack support’)
I agreed with most what you said but just buffing conditions isn’t gonna do it. What about power build?
An escape machanic would be cool… Maybe something from LOTR the ‘world’ Frodo goes to when he puts on the ring. Kind of like stealth but than ‘somewhat less stealthy’?
And guys rankings on a leaderboard mean very little, when you argue please use facts or something but not numbers that kind of show how good a player is…

EDIT: spelling errors

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Posted by: NeXeD.3042

NeXeD.3042

^^ give necros stealth. Hahahaha

Been in top 500 too, I only say it because it’s so kittening easy and im so awful the fact I did this kitten says alot about the people kittening that can’t even pull that off

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Posted by: Holl.3109

Holl.3109

^^ give necros stealth. Hahahaha

Been in top 500 too, I only say it because it’s so kittening easy and im so awful the fact I did this kitten says alot about the people kittening that can’t even pull that off

?
-plz explain what you mean

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Posted by: nearlight.3064

nearlight.3064

I once used infiltrator’s runes on power necro in spvp for one match (stealth for 4 seconds when under 25% health). It was basically an unbalanced hotjoin with 3 warriors zerging and murdering everyone in sight.

In the end all 3 of them reported me for hacking to gain stealth, because they were freaked out that I stealthed like a thief every time before they killed me. I explained to them why I could do it, and how it wasn’t hacking, but it didn’t assuade them, and I just chuckled by how stupid and trolly hotjoin people can be.

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Posted by: NeXeD.3042

NeXeD.3042

^^ give necros stealth. Hahahaha

Been in top 500 too, I only say it because it’s so kittening easy and im so awful the fact I did this kitten says alot about the people kittening that can’t even pull that off

?
-plz explain what you mean

Your suggestion was to give necros stealth that was not as stealthy…. so you want like a wavy shadow form thingy or legit stealth. The wavy shadow thing would only help against people with kitten rigs I think. Necros might need something but stealth is not it.

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Posted by: Holl.3109

Holl.3109

^^ give necros stealth. Hahahaha

Been in top 500 too, I only say it because it’s so kittening easy and im so awful the fact I did this kitten says alot about the people kittening that can’t even pull that off

?
-plz explain what you mean

Your suggestion was to give necros stealth that was not as stealthy…. so you want like a wavy shadow form thingy or legit stealth. The wavy shadow thing would only help against people with kitten rigs I think. Necros might need something but stealth is not it.

Well that would be according to you. I’m not talking full blown stealth ‘you can’t see me’ but something else that will help necromancers. Because as of right now once you’re in you’re in. Necro is IMO the most unforgiving class and could use something to help hide/get away.

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Posted by: Poplolita.2638

Poplolita.2638

When you get in top 500 come back and post. until then you two look like parrots rambling about things that surpass your skill level.

I don’t think the current leaderboard is a good skill metric. For instance, the top 1 and 2 literaly play 1 single match during specific times (When really good players such as lord helseth or Eol are not playing for example) every 4-14 days. Moreover, some players got in the top 25 with ~10-100 games. The only legit good players are those with over 800 games with at least a win/loss ratio over 55% such as Leeto (Who is amazing btw, you should watch some of his streams), and most importantly, ACTIVE.

Anyway, it’s quite sad that this thread attracted people like the one you listed in your post. Those are indeed trolls. Just ignore them.

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Posted by: NeXeD.3042

NeXeD.3042

An escape machanic would be cool… Maybe something from LOTR the ‘world’ Frodo goes to when he puts on the ring. Kind of like stealth but than ‘somewhat less stealthy’?

pretty much what i described……

We dont need an escape mechanic. We need something to take focus fire for a few seconds besides SA DS that is almost useless against a condition bomb.

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Posted by: Vendetta.5026

Vendetta.5026

Anyway, it’s quite sad that this thread attracted people like the one you listed in your post. Those are indeed trolls. Just ignore them.

Yes mate, i know, you’re right….. I said before i was used to the forums being overrun by trolls and other individuals who have no idea about anything, they just post for the sake of it.
Here on the forums, where nobody pawns them, where nobody sees their low skill or their general stupidity, here they fancy themselves very interesting and smart.

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Posted by: Poplolita.2638

Poplolita.2638

There is another thread going on in spvp forum about the same issue. I think it’s a better place to voice our/your opinion

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Necro-is-not-as-good-as-I-think-it-should-be/first