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My first of many WvW PvP specific videos for my Necromancer. Footage over the past 2 weeks of WvW there for anyone considering playing Necromancer or power builds in general.

My typical play-style is high single target damage whilst laying down combo fields for my team mates. I alternate my utility skills depending on what im engaging into but heres a breakdown of my build and why i use it.

(Copy and paste)
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fQAQNBHhZakRLcvSTTjhPBA9YXddOSByLTpoc4B;TsAKlMKJUyqkTJpSLRGicE5JykAA

  • Axe Main-hand Love the range, love the vulnerability and love Unholy Feast for stopping fleeing enemies (all non-targeting AoEs such as Life Transfer are strong)
  • Warhorn Off-Hand Wail of Doom with Banshee’s Wail trait shuts down entire groups for 3 seconds and Locust Swarm with Spectral Walk is perma-swiftness.
  • Staff Main-Hand A must for WvW
  • Consume Conditions A must for WvW
  • Spectral Walk Perma-swiftness with warhorn & spectral mastery.
  • Well of Suffering Heavy damage, AoE vulnerability and dark combo field.
  • Well of Corruption Brilliant disruptor for Guardians, Warriors and Engineers, dark combo field.
  • Lich Form Extremely heavy damage, stability with boon removal and knockdown skills, just need to know when to use it as you cant heal in Lich Form.
  • Well of Darkness Speced in when running into a zerg outnumbered along with Curses Chilling Darkness trait turning it into a chilling blinding AoE dark combo field.

Full exotic 80 ‘Berserkers’ set (Power, Precision, Critical Damage) with 80 exotic Ruby jewelery (Power, Precision, Critical Damage)

Happy to answer any questions!

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Posted by: Deyez.8264

Deyez.8264

Love the video! Great entrance with the slo-mo dive & roll. lol Think my fav part is when you get jumped by 3-4 and go lich to clear them out.

Looks like a fun build

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Posted by: Arolas.5209

Arolas.5209

Awesome video, power necro myself, though I haven’t geared up yet.

What jewelry are you using?

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Posted by: Ascii.9726

Ascii.9726

Awesome video, power necro myself, though I haven’t geared up yet.

What jewelry are you using?

Full berserkers armour and ruby jewelery (basically every piece is the Power, Precision, Critical Damage minus my legendary)

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Posted by: barti.7685

barti.7685

nice video ! man those numbers are nice i never see these kinda numbers in spvp/tpvp hehe.. saw 1500 axe damage 9k number 2.. if only it would be like that in tpvp hehe

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Aexrael.5918

FYI you can fix your links easily.

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Ascii.9726

FYI you can fix your links easily.

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Naaaa its not a formatting problem its the URL itself cant be read by ANets External links page see and the other version here

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Posted by: Jayseric.9341

Jayseric.9341

Dude are you serious ? You really thought you made 40k dmg on that warrior ? -__-

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Posted by: Endymion.6180

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Hey, awesome vid
I was just searching a good pvp power build (mostly wvwvw small group hit and run stuff, no zerg) as you can see in my other topic.
Your build sounds interesting and it is much similar to what I was going to try, except I was thinking of maining Dagger.
Is the range of the axe a good tradeoff for the difference in damage (assuming there is a steep difference in dmg as the forum always says)?
Follow up question: Being all power/prec does affect your durability? How much hp do you have right now? Is it an issue?

Thanks

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Posted by: MysticoN.5068

MysticoN.5068

why did you chooce Spiteful spirit instead of reaper’s might?

Asking since im running some of the same traits you are, but whondering why might over retaliation. Is it due to your high base Power?

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Endymion.6180

Ok, another quick question: Would this build work with dagger instead of axe?
I’m testing right now something very very similar, both with dagger and with axe…. and I do like the dagger feel with all of this.
Having the dagger help you out building LF seems pretty good to me. Am I wrong somewhere?

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Posted by: MysticoN.5068

MysticoN.5068

wel, the dagger dont have the range. And Ascii.9726 says that he loves the range on axe.

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Posted by: Ascii.9726

Ascii.9726

why did you chooce Spiteful spirit instead of reaper’s might?

Asking since im running some of the same traits you are, but whondering why might over retaliation. Is it due to your high base Power?

I tend to find myself running head first into crowds dropping wells, going into death shroud and Life Transferring out before picking my target and having retaliation works much better in that situation as i dont Life Blast past 50% and LF tends to drop below that pretty quickly.

Hey, awesome vid
I was just searching a good pvp power build (mostly wvwvw small group hit and run stuff, no zerg) as you can see in my other topic.
Your build sounds interesting and it is much similar to what I was going to try, except I was thinking of maining Dagger.
Is the range of the axe a good tradeoff for the difference in damage (assuming there is a steep difference in dmg as the forum always says)?
Follow up question: Being all power/prec does affect your durability? How much hp do you have right now? Is it an issue?

Thanks

Endy.

The range of axe is pretty important in the build, dagger requires you face to face with your opponent which puts you in there and there teammates range.

Daggers 2 skill is also 0.75 seconds longer channel then Axe 2 and 4 seconds longer on cooldown and i think non targeting AoEs such as Axes Unholy Feast is a must, it allows you to use on the move whilst hitting people behind you and also hit stealth characters.

I’m not as tanky as some Necromancers ive encountered but i tend to favor full offensive and leave support to my team mates.

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Posted by: Zeke Minus.5720

Zeke Minus.5720

Very nice video I started a Necro focused on conditions, and you’ve made me want to mess around with power builds. Thanks for sharing!

Also, the number tally (the, “1052 + 2104 + 3156…” etc.) is not each hit, it’s the total accumulation of damage the skill has done. That’s still quite impressive, but it’s not 40k damage xD

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Posted by: Eviator.9746

Eviator.9746

I loved the video and I’m going to try out the build. I was a bit confused about the 40k axe thing. Unfortunately you lost some credibility because the last number is the sum of the full damage stack, not the last tick in that stack.

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Posted by: Ascii.9726

Ascii.9726

I just love the range of the axe over dagger. Dagger puts you right into the range of enemies were as axe allows you to be at a happy medium range doing decent damage, plus the utility of axe 2 and 3.

I loved the video and I’m going to try out the build. I was a bit confused about the 40k axe thing. Unfortunately you lost some credibility because the last number is the sum of the full damage stack, not the last tick in that stack.

I’d re-edit it if i had the originals still, you learn something new everyday!

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Posted by: Raist.4580

Raist.4580

what runes are u running in armor and what sigil in your staff?

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Posted by: Ascii.9726

Ascii.9726

what runes are u running in armor and what sigil in your staff?

Superior Sigils of Battle in my Warhorn and Staff, Superior Sigil of Accuracy in my Axe and 6 Superior Runes of Rage in my armour.

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Posted by: Sparda.9750

Sparda.9750

man.. nice work but.. ur build works good with lich form that is avaibled every 3 minutes!!
cannot be reiable every time..
than, u have a power build with 19% of critical chance.. too low!!
to finish u use, how have to do, wells.. but their CD is horrible.. without the trait that reduce the CD of 20% u have to escape every time u have not utilities ready.. every 60 seconds u can use them.. too risky!!

man.. nice work but.. ur build works good with lich form that is avaibled every 3 minutes!!
cannot be reiable every time..
than, u have a power build with 19% of critical chance.. too low!!
to finish u use, how have to do, wells.. but their CD is horrible.. without the trait that reduce the CD of 20% u have to escape every time u have not utilities ready.. every 60 seconds u can use them.. too risky!!first for all i change the warhorn with focus ( 4° skill mades LF),
than, for the reaper trait, i’ll choose the 6th and the 10th.. for the spite trait, go the 6th instead the 5th..
and u could consider to leave 5 traits in corruption and add this r points in reaper!!!

man.. nice work but.. ur build works good with lich form that is avaibled every 3 minutes!!
cannot be reiable every time..
than, u have a power build with 19% of critical chance.. too low!!
to finish u use, how have to do, wells.. but their CD is horrible.. without the trait that reduce the CD of 20% u have to escape every time u have not utilities ready.. every 60 seconds u can use them.. too risky!!first for all i change the warhorn with focus ( 4° skill mades LF),
than, for the reaper trait, i’ll choose the 6th and the 10th.. for the spite trait, go the 6th instead the 5th..
and u could consider to leave 5 traits in corruption and add this r points in reaper!!!something like this:
http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fQAQNBHhZakRLcvSTTjhPBA9YXddOSByLTpoc4B;TsAKlMKJUyqkTJpSLRGicE5JykAA

man.. nice work but.. ur build works good with lich form that is avaibled every 3 minutes!!
cannot be reiable every time..
than, u have a power build with 19% of critical chance.. too low!!
to finish u use, how have to do, wells.. but their CD is horrible.. without the trait that reduce the CD of 20% u have to escape every time u have not utilities ready.. every 60 seconds u can use them.. too risky!!first for all i change the warhorn with focus ( 4° skill mades LF),
than, for the reaper trait, i’ll choose the 6th and the 10th.. for the spite trait, go the 6th instead the 5th..
and u could consider to leave 5 traits in corruption and add this r points in reaper!!!something like this:
http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fQAQNBHhZakRLcvSTTjhPBA9YXddOSByLTpoc4B;TsAKlMKJUyqkTJpSLRGicE5JykAAtell me what u thinking abou it!!

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Posted by: Sparda.9750

Sparda.9750

man i ask sorry, but donno how my message has been duplicated

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Posted by: Ascii.9726

Ascii.9726

@Sparda.9750 Theres multiple things you’ve pointed out that’s a little inaccurate so i thought id better clear up.

  • Relying on Lich Form and its 3 minute cooldown.
    The build doesn’t rely on Lich Form full stop. I can do high quick bursts of damage without even using Lich Form plus the time between fights in WvW is usally longer then 3 minutes anyway.
  • 19% Critical Hit Chance
    That is wrong, infact im on 53% critical chance, with almost perma-fury in fights from my runes and going to 97% in Lich Form. World armour cant be represented on http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/ editing page so i left that out, for a proper view at my build check my signature picture.
  • Cooldown of Wells
    One round of wells is typically enough for the fight at hand. After dropping wells, Death Shroud Life Transferring then Lich Form nuking wells are back up.
  • Focus instead of Warhorn
    Perm-swiftness is one of the most important things in WvW. Mobility between zones is much more important then single target chill and vulnerability and not including Lich Form, Warhorns provides the only weapon interrupt and a very big one at that.
  • Soul Reaping Traits
    Life Transfer spamming is the strongest thing this build has to offer. As ive said before non targeting AoE skills are extremely powerful. Life Transfer acts as a huge damage channel (upwards of 6k+) whilst healing you. Spectral Attunement helps keep perm-swiftness up but could be changable depending.

X Trait is just bad for WvW, if your nuking with staff you have no need to build life force plus you would be building it automatically from critical hits and the Curses V trait.

I hope you understand the reasoning behind my build now and why i use what!

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Posted by: Kisses.1054

Kisses.1054

This is very nice, I actually watched whole thing for once. I am currently slowly getting a berserker set for my necro; it’s nice to be reminded that the damage can be high on ds and lich #1 since I am losing interest a bit.

Since I take any opportunity to qq: it is interesting that in what I assume is a representaiton of typical or even best-case fights:
-how many times DS 4 gets interrupted, to be put on full cooldown
-how many times people just walked out of the wells. Rly annoying how everything in this game is balanced around conquest, oh it has to be weak coz it can cover a point etc etc.

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Posted by: Sparda.9750

Sparda.9750

donno i undestrood pvp >_> i was convinced O_o everithing change now..

so, in the build critical chance was 19%

anyway.. the staf without greater marks is quite unplayble.. and.. are u sure that 33% to gain 1% of LF is enough to play a DS build?? i guess no.. in this way u gain always from the mark.. but the little form is a bad thing

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Posted by: Ascii.9726

Ascii.9726

donno i undestrood pvp >> i was convinced Oo everithing change now..

so, in the build critical chance was 19%

anyway.. the staf without greater marks is quite unplayble.. and.. are u sure that 33% to gain 1% of LF is enough to play a DS build?? i guess no.. in this way u gain always from the mark.. but the little form is a bad thing

Marks isn’t the only way to build Life Force, remember this is a WvW build theres people dying left right and center.

  • 10% from People or Mobs dying (remember in WvW critters like rabbits, owls are everywhere and give 10% apon being one hit)
  • 1% (33% chance) from any critical hit (73% critical hit chance)
  • 8% from Axe’s Ghastly Claws.
  • 4% from being struck in Spectral Walk.
  • 3% Per Life Transfer Tick.
  • 10% from equipping Flesh Golem, summoning and switching back to Lich Form.

Im sure theres other ways…

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Posted by: Sparda.9750

Sparda.9750

ok, but u’re sure with every mark gains 3 LF.. there are a lot of circustances that people don’t die when u need.. have 25% every hit to gain LF ain’t bad.. but is just 1%..
life transfer helps if u are already in DS..

anyway, ain’t this the discourse.. like i told u before, i had not read that was for WvW.. i like it, but for my playstyle i change something.. of course, power build is the better ( and only way ) to use DS.. and in WvW it’s very cool.. but for experience, the marks without the right trait are very useless.. too little.. but i cannot how make them begger and let the entire build works so good

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Posted by: Setrix.3469

Setrix.3469

i tried this in sPVP and it’s really fun thanks for showing this
want to try it in WvWvW but i got condition armor x(

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Posted by: Sheobix.8796

Sheobix.8796

drop the 1% LF trait and use spectral armor instead, it will help when you start getting kitten from lack of Toughness. It also generates LF like crazy

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Posted by: Sheobix.8796

Sheobix.8796

Also, put dagger in 2nd set to utilize dagger3 which when traited, immobilize lasts 4seconds. great for runners.

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Posted by: Lysico.4906

Lysico.4906

link is bad no matter what I do

can you give me the basics? ie 30/0/30/0/20 or such

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Posted by: Sparda.9750

Sparda.9750

copy and search on google

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Posted by: Kisses.1054

Kisses.1054

donno i undestrood pvp >> i was convinced Oo everithing change now..

so, in the build critical chance was 19%

anyway.. the staf without greater marks is quite unplayble.. and.. are u sure that 33% to gain 1% of LF is enough to play a DS build?? i guess no.. in this way u gain always from the mark.. but the little form is a bad thing

critchance isnt 19. he just hasn’t put in the gear into the skill builder. it would be more like 50% if he is using berserkers (minimum ~30% if no trait points in precision tree)
This is without taking fury into account which give another 20%

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Posted by: WoDn.9637

WoDn.9637

how do you get 24k health with a full berserker set without vitality?

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Sparda.9750

ye.. i ’ve seen later..
the frustreting thing is that we are not done to be DPS, but liche form and DS are based on DPS build.. sadness..
losing both is like losing a part of the class

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Posted by: Khairos.3890

Khairos.3890

I tried this build in sPVP, and had a blast. I was very effective, and extremely fun to play too! Now I may start working on getting the exotics, sigils, and jewels for WvW for my PVE char.

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Posted by: Ascii.9726

Ascii.9726

how do you get 24k health with a full berserker set without vitality?

At the time Orbs of Power was implemented into the game so i had +150 vitality and 15% max health boost, but your health varies alot in WvW anyway depending on where you are.

ye.. i ’ve seen later..
the frustreting thing is that we are not done to be DPS, but liche form and DS are based on DPS build.. sadness..
losing both is like losing a part of the class

It’s not about being able to do lots of damage its about being able to survive and fight, Lich Forms heavy damage is just a bonus in the small scale fights. WvW is not about the single character… excluding Thiefs.. and Mesmers.

I tried this build in sPVP, and had a blast. I was very effective, and extremely fun to play too! Now I may start working on getting the exotics, sigils, and jewels for WvW for my PVE char.

Its more a WvW build then SPvP mainly because you can hit much higher critical damage bonus (117% in Main vs. 65% in SPvP) but it can work with tweaking!

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Khairos.3890

That’s great news, cause I’m primarily a WvW player. Now I just need to get some gold… >_>

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Ascii.9726

Necromancers are the kings of Dynamic Event tagging. 2 – 4g per 1 Hour 30 mins depending on your MF level

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Posted by: kKagari.6804

kKagari.6804

Can you tell me how retaliation works? There’s all this debate on whether the wiki formula is correct or not, and from your video, are you getting 364 retal ticks? (against thief in second segment)

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Posted by: Monster.3186

Monster.3186

Nice video man. Sometimes I feel weak on my Necro in PVP in general, this makes me feel the opposite! Thanks for the vid and tips.

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Posted by: Xom.9264

Xom.9264

Just to put a little reality into things.

This is a gear issue very few people have full exotics set. If you have it you will crush people in WvW, I did fairly well with my basic 80 set then I got all my exotics one night.

Came back to WvW and was 1v2 1v3 effortlessly my skill level did not go up in one night it was all gear. Full kights gear with exotics knights weapons and rings/etc.. with runes of undeath for some condition splash.

You can tell the people that are max level with exotic gear because the fights are more like you would have in spvp or tpvp, anyone not level 80 in at least good rare gear is a free kill for anyclass in exotics.

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