Guild Wars 2

I dont expect this build to be able to kill someone. But worth a try. Made it for wvw purposes. Trying to make a PvP build of it or something at the moment too. Enjoy and keep commenting!

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I have no idea how this build will work out. If anyone can do like a test run with it and give us results that would be awesome. This build looks interesting to say the least. The only problem is I heard leeching was very underpowered right now.

This build… isn’t going to be very effective.

Dagger/Focus is not a condition damage set at all, yet you’ve stacked condition damage as your main damage stat. You have low power, low crit chance, and no crit damage, so you’re going to hit like a wet noodle. You don’t even have Barbed Precision to fall back on.

Your utility skills are probably ok. Bone Minions are probably better than Shadow Fiend, but you’d have to ask someone with more recent experience with minions than me.

Traits are a mess. I don’t think we can get away with speccing full defensive like that. Kinda seems like you’d be useless. Additionally, your trait choices are terrible. Why in the world would you pass up on Grandmaster traits in both lines you took to 30? Necromantic Corruption and Death Nova are both substantially better than Staff Mastery, and Fetid Consumption is way, way better than Vampiric Precision (which is a terrible trait in general, doubly so for this build which has low crit chance).

Don’t stack healing power. It’s a mistake. Almost nothing you do scales with it; having slightly better Regen and a #6 active isn’t at all worth it. Nemesis has an interesting build for a healing support Necro, but this isn’t that.

Your sigils are counterproductive, too. Sigils with cooldowns all share the same cooldown (so if I trigger a Sigil of Rage, I won’t be able to trigger any other sigils on any of my weapons for 45 seconds), and on-swap Sigils have a cooldown even though they often don’t mention it in their description. Basically, swap from D/F to Staff after procing your Sigil of Blood and you’ll miss procing your Sigil of Leeching. Proc your Sigil of Leeching when switching from Staff to D/F and you’ll prevent your Sigil of Blood from procing for 9 seconds.

Your Rune choices don’t synergy with a MM build, either. MMs want to keep their Blood Fiend up for as long as possible and additionally it’s at risk of dying, so you’ll likely be trying to avoid using your heal skill all that often. Runes of Vampirism also happen to be bugged, making them a hassle to run.

I don’t mean to sound discouraging, but it is what it is. You really need to play the game more and study up on the mechanics of the game before you’ll be able to produce useful builds.

Blaine Tog.8304:

This build… isn’t going to be very effective.

…TRIIIIM…

I don’t mean to sound discouraging, but it is what it is. You really need to play the game more and study up on the mechanics of the game before you’ll be able to produce useful builds.

Blaine is right I’m afraid. These builds aren’t effective, his advice is solid and I’d say you need to test some of these builds before submitting them to people otherwise folks are gonna start ignoring your posts.

I appreciate the sentiment with which you’re posting, but repeatedly posting ill-considered builds won’t work out well in the long run.

Okay thank you for your kind feedbacks guys. But i still can’t play gw2 right now. The reason being that I experienced some technical difficulties a few days ago. So all i can do now is do some theory crafting and post them on here. So i have taken into account that you guyz have great ideas and i am putting the newest build on this post. The credit goes to all you guyz. Thanks for your help. Enjoy

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fQAQNArdWjEa961aua07JApHXT90TP4G8whKkLA-jEzAIOBRaBA1BkCBlDDYecRr1twWOHimeWIVdjpjjsBvIa1CBYeNA-w

keep trying, see what others are suggesting.
This is a good way to educate yourself on necro, build on! ^^

Thank you guyz. I have a question. At gw2skill.net why cant i find the exquisite jewels upgrade for the accessories?? I can only find the infusions. If anyone of you can answer this question much would be obliged.

Because all your stuff is ascended

themenaceofseventhdimension.2075:

Okay thank you for your kind feedbacks guys. But i still can’t play gw2 right now. The reason being that I experienced some technical difficulties a few days ago. So all i can do now is do some theory crafting and post them on here. So i have taken into account that you guyz have great ideas and i am putting the newest build on this post. The credit goes to all you guyz. Thanks for your help. Enjoy

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fQAQNArdWjEa961aua07JApHXT90TP4G8whKkLA-jEzAIOBRaBA1BkCBlDDYecRr1twWOHimeWIVdjpjjsBvIa1CBYeNA-w

Better. You still need to completely drop your Healing Power, though. It’s not going to do anywhere near as much for you as you think.

Look, here’s an example of a build that should work pretty well (I also used exotic equipment to better approximate what most people have access to). This build has substantially stronger damage than yours without much less defense and should just generally work better. I’m sure it could be improved further, but it’s a better start.

This is the tank/regen build by Nemesis – inspired by Sheobox, this build is super tanky and you regen a ton of hp, played it a bunch and works great in PvE, had a lot of fun with it in spvp hot joins, but have not been brave enough to try it in tpvp yet need a bit more time to get more comfortable and make proper alterations for my play style.

After hearing all your ideas i realized that the regen thing isn’t gonna work. thank you for making me realize that. I decided to drop the whole regen thing and add dhummfire to it. It is now the Burning Vampire Minion Master build. I would greatly appreciate all your analyses. thank you for your time.

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Guyz if you ever saw another build similar to this please tell me. I really want to be the first person to make the Burning Vampire MM build. Like be the creator of this build. Sorry if i sound noobish on this matter but I really want to be the first one to make this build.

Guyz I seriously think that this build will be OP soon enough. I need to have all of your opinion on this build so I can tinker with it more if i have to. Plz take a look. Much will be appreciated. thank you for your time.

Guyz i need you guyz to take a look at this build. i truly believe that I can beat any other MM necromancers with this build. It is the start of a new MM necromancer age. Sorry if i sound so stuck up but that’s how much i’m excited about this build. please commentate on this build. Thank you for your time. MUch will be appreciated. Have a nice day.

What the ef… I’m gonna be honest, this is not usable in WvW in ANY way. At all.
Why, if you have so many minions, would you go for spiteful talisman and not boon stripping on minions.
Healing power is compeltely unnecessary. We have the shroud and more shroud regen would tank more damage (since you regenerate it pretty fast, if traited right), than healing power. Also, Minions are in zerg fights useless. Flesh worm is useless, people can just go out of range of your worm, so you’d have to pin them. Any necromancer with staff / offhand dagger does not give a flying f about your immobilize. And no, it would NOT beat any MM. And MM is not great in WvW. Not at all. Minion AI lacks and minion abilities are lacking too. And now you went for the blood fiend? That one is useless. You have basically ONE condition cleanse, no stunbreaker and no chance against someone who has the ability to ignore your minions. Let’s not forget no way to strip stability and use your shroud skills effectively. Have a nice day.

Stop bumping your threads so rabidly. It is explicitly against the forum’s terms of service. It also actually makes people even less likely to want to interact with you.

Also, stop claiming your builds are “the best” or “can beat anything else.” You’re free to believe whatever you like, but these grandiose claims about builds you haven’t even used in game just sound ridiculous. I know you can’t play right now but that doesn’t give you license to say whatever you like and have it be correct.

Sorry if that sounds blunt but you clearly need the blunt truth. I’m just trying to help.

Guyz uh i think you looked at my first MM build and not the updated one. lol. I’m not sure I think you guyz missed the Burning Vampire Build and looked at the regen siphon Mm build that i made in the beginning of this thread. So if you missed the BUrning Vampire MM build here it is. I’m only threading right now cause you guyz didn’t seem like you saw the updated one. Cheers and much comments would be appreciated. Again I’m not just bumping this thread cause so that it gets more popularity. I just feel that you didnt see the updated MM build

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I saw it. And it’s still not great. Granted. It will work versus upleveled mesmers in full zerker gear. But again. You switched in spectral walk, oblivious to the fact, that your minions don’t get the speed buff. You went for 0 condition clear, and not even well of blood, which would ATLEAST heal YOUR minions. You have 0 boon strip. You went for rapid / rampager, without critical damage, so your critical strike chance is meaningless. You have critical strike chance for exactly one purpose, Dhuumfire, and even that wont hit hard, since you lack the condition damage. Condition duration (some might think differently) is meaningless in a 1v1 or WvW, since people cleanse often. You want your conditions to hit hard, and not randomly. You picked a sigil you have to charge, which is not really good in this situation. Your leeching sigil is just bad. You have life steal, which is just bad compared to life force regen. If you picked a good healing skill, you wouldn’t need it. want me to continue? Before posting builds, you should try them. This one is basically in it’s state great for lvl 1 roaming in metrica. Or Queensdale for that matter. Not WvW.

I invite you, transfer to my server, I’ll run around with you, and pick you up, when someone killed you.

Hey guyz so i guess the siphoning thing is what is making this build so horrible in wvw. Got rid of it completely. though that it is sorta useless since it isn’t gonna heal much against more dps opponents and all that. I’m still gonna stick with the dhummfire trait just cause then I will be the first person to use the Dhummfire MM build in gw2.( yes I got to test it out and I am slowly playing gw2 again.) Keep in mind this build is a long way from being as close to viable in wvw as possible. I’m open for any feeedbacks but please try to refrain from totally harsh comments. Enjoy and thank you for your time.

Guyz I really need the feedback on this build right now. Like i tried it out but i feel like it could be improved. Got rid of the siphoning stuff cause even if I have like well of blood and all that it would only heal like 80 per pulse. Sorry if you guyz feel that I’m bumping this threadd too often. It’s just that this build is my inspitration to keep playing the necromancer because It is the first ever dhummfire minion master build in gw2. please, all suggestions are welcomed and appreciated. Thank you for your help.

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I highly doubt it is the first ever in GW2 it may well be the first on the forums but it for sure isn’t the first ever.

Why do you take a pull to you skill like the grasp but only have ranged weapons? You take a whole trait (spectral CD) for one skill? One that I personally don’t understand why you even have it. I was always under the impression that the point of MM Necros was to stay as far away from the opponent as possible?

Your regen from staff#2 isn’t going to give your minions enough health fast enough to live. Any mid level AoE will wipe them out fast enough. You keep posting builds that you haven’t even properly tested claiming they will beat all or are “Near Perfect”. Do you really want to be considered the “cool guy” on a video game that much? Also, is English your first language?

Does Dhuumfire proc off of minion attacks? Some looking up seems to point to Dhuumfire only affecting one target every ten seconds. And minion’s attacks for the most part are not AoE so how is the build designed to handle groups exactly?

Uh lol. most people here are total opposites. When i make a group build they are like how you gonna fight one on one? then when i make a build that is clearly for one v one you come and say how you gonna deal with groups? Lol do i really have to tell you that a Minion master build is primarily for one v one? are you just joking or are you that thickheaded?

themenaceofseventhdimension.2075:

Uh lol. most people here are total opposites. When i make a group build they are like how you gonna fight one on one? then when i make a build that is clearly for one v one you come and say how you gonna deal with groups? Lol do i really have to tell you that a Minion master build is primarily for one v one? are you just joking or are you that thickheaded?

You said yourself you made it for WvW purposes in your first post. What part of WvW is 1v1?

When you are roaming you might see a solo roamer as well. You are really like a noob. Does all people roam in groups??

True you might find a solo person to kill. But taking camps isn’t 1v1 it is at a min of 1v5. That will be 1v7 if both yaks are there and it is not upgraded. Are you just going to go around and fight sentinels all day and hope to find a solo roamer?

You write cute things when you get angry. ^^

Let me state it bluntly, as you don’t seem to understand me, when I’m trying to be nice. Your build is bad. And every time you upgrade it, it gets worse. You lack testing, and you seem to lack the knowledge on how necromancer skills synergize, or what is needed in order to survive a WvW engagement (taking camps, 1vX and 1v1s included.). There are enough people out there who know what they are doing, and you are not one of them, it seems. Again. Your build is bad. deal with it. Pick one that someone like Nemesis made. Stop self bumping your threads. No one is interested in your “OMGOMGOMGGUYZGUYSZ IMBABUILD I MAED! LOOOOOKKKKKK!!!!!! MAEK ME YA GAWD!”. No one.

Your builds lack the basic understanding of necromancer mechanics, and game mechanics. You pick skills and traits which are utterly useless in any non-PvE environment. You are starting to insult people who tell you, that your builds are bad. You self-bump your threads instead of editing your previous posts. Stop it.

PS: I am sorry that I am mean, but you seem to be pretty resilient to suggestion.