Hard time with condi necro in sPvP

Hard time with condi necro in sPvP

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Posted by: Furienify.5738

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In the months before the trait rework patch I’d run condi Necro – and I mean sceptre/dagger + staff rather than some sort of hybrid. Sometimes Rabid amulet, sometimes Carrion. Sometimes Terrormancer, sometimes other. Hell, I even ran Dumbfire, because the combination of Corrupt Boon + Terror + Dark Path + Dumbfire could really knock boon-heavy classes on their butts. It was sometimes feast or famine in its effectiveness, but I got by.

But try as I might, I can’t make anything work after the patch. Warriors are still a problem – pop Berserker’s Stance and basically force me to leave the point or burn my entire DS – but they were before. Oldschool D/D Eles and bunker/support Guardians I can handle thanks to Corrupt Boon. But everything else? Ugh.

I’ve had 1v1s vs. rangers that wildly outdamage me from a mile away. Rangers that just sit on me dropping more conditions via shortbow/traps than I can possibly dream of applying, making me completely melt. Engineers that do the same. I try and use Plague Sending or Plague Signet or Deathly Swarm in these fights, but half the time they go on cooldown without anything happening.

I feel like I’m missing half my tools after the rework, too. Path of Corruption was a great trait, but now it’s in competition with Terror. I have to get all my condi duration from runes or the single GM trait in Curses, which is in competition with the Weakness trait which – now that it’s two rolled into one – actually seems like a decent pickup. Dumbfire is, against all possibility, even worse than before, so I can’t even play the burst game I used to before.

I’ve tried Corruption-centric builds, but they’ve been very unwieldy and I keep wanting to drop half my bar for Flesh Wurm or Spectral Armor or Plague Signet, at which point I question running the trait at all. I’ve considered going into Death Magic for its GM condi trait, but that wastes most of the tree unless I slot minions, which doesn’t seem like a viable option.

So… what does work? Do I go back to oldschool Nightmare Runes terrormancer? Abandon condi and play the Celestial Signet meta build in hopes of contributing something?

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Posted by: nearlight.3064

nearlight.3064

Well the best condi build I’ve found is basically a carrion version of the cele signet build with condi weapons, spite signet, terror, and FtG (dhuumfire sucks kitten. It has good burst condi application and the transfers are strong, but the sustained damage is really bad so you’ll do no damage in teamfights. If anything has enough health to outlast a spite signet/terror burst or whatever, it’ll take way too long to kill them.

Right now, the only way I could see it competing with cele signets is if we had a dire amulet, PoC and terror were seperated, and if the sustained pressure was buffed a little. No point in using terror off cooldown while your 8 second bleeds tick for 117 damage. Just making the scepter auto do 2 stacks of 3 second bleeds would be better than the garbage we have now.

Condi reaper could be a thing due to damaging chill and AoE dhuumfire, but its too soon to tell.

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Posted by: Sagat.3285

Sagat.3285

Do not bother with condition on any class especially necro scepter/dagger are weak links and they gutted it with new Dhummfire,PoC and Terror on same tier,bleed nerf,lost of condition duration,Lingering Curse,overall game power creep etc. I would say the same for powermancer the viable necro specs are hybrid-ish MM and cele variations (signet or well). I do not trust Reaper to revive it but we’ll see doubt it will based on the devs’ record.

3 more years to go.

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Posted by: Pelopidas.2140

Pelopidas.2140

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ive been having fun with this one, i must be the only person taking spiteful spirit in these forums. Only advice i can give you is learn to hide behind obstacles, time your corrupt boon or your burst very carefuly, dont just spam skills, and play more around the point with an exit ready.. Find and bomb a target that has blown cooldowns (ele out of water, ranger after SoS or Healing spring).

if you wanna have some fun get sos and epidemic and in a midfight cast these on a ranger pet:P fails alot but it can be glorious