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Posted by: Rangerdeity.5847

Rangerdeity.5847

Alright now I know healers get a lot of hate but in a good team they are amazing and after looking at all the classes only ele necro and guardian have anything reliable for heals. Ele has horrid CD on waterfields but kitten can they be effective. guardian has a lot of small heals but wow do they have a lot of them. necro has The most spammable of all heals given your aim is good enough to hit allies with it. This build should be unkillable as long as your positioning isnt absolutely horrid too so feel free to overextend for a life transfer. 25k hp 3k toughness oh and your still a necro too so go hit that second hp bar as often as you like since your building it up pretty quickly anyway

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fRUQNBmODbkj+oVaf3rtPbm35NO8/eirhSqAY6GIC+VqThXIYB-T1xGABA8wCwTJYuXRhYV/ZJlfvq7Zj9HCAcA8+75e37+7v/+jP+4jP+4O+4jP+4jLFw3CjA-w

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Posted by: otetas.9675

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I like this kinda of builds and i always thought that was the most interesting aspect of gw2 to let ur favorite class do whatever you want (in theory).
Anyways, woudnt dagger be better for wvw instead of axe?

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Posted by: Rangerdeity.5847

Rangerdeity.5847

I like this kinda of builds and i always thought that was the most interesting aspect of gw2 to let ur favorite class do whatever you want (in theory).
Anyways, woudnt dagger be better for wvw instead of axe?

the auto attack yes but axe 2 is a good burst and axe 3 gives retal and a nice large radius cripple which is really nice when you collide with the enemy havok squad

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Posted by: Dadnir.5038

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I feel that your analisys on ele and gardian heal is a bit off… One thing that will make them absolutely better then necro in this area is ther easy way to grant “protction” which your build doesn’t.

  • Elementalist : water staff AA = ae heal (pretty much bettre then the unreliable pathing of life blast). Add to this permanent heal from water attunement passive, easy acces to party regeneration buff, blasts and water field. Cleansing whenever you grant regeneration in combo with healing rain is a 4 condition cleanse.
  • Gardian : Virtue of resolve (this should be enough to make every other classes jealous). Add ae healing on auto attack with mace, healing on symbols, heavy access to party defensives boons (regen, protection… and stability), tons of way to cleanse (not to say some whirl in these petty light fields…)

So yes I think necromancer fall behind… especially if you use unholy martyr which remove 1 condition to 1 ally of your party every 3 seconds. (Yes you choose the very worst grand master trait you could choose).

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Posted by: Roe.3679

Roe.3679

Ele and guardian would really be more effective healers. They’ll provide more support, just as much if not more heals, and more boons.

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Posted by: Malchior.1928

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I can see what you were going for with the Signet of Undeath and Unholy Martyr, however, is the 6% life force every 3 seconds really worth it in terms of trade offs? You want to heal, so perhaps it might be better for you to pick up Deathly Invigoration in blood magic for that extra 1k burst heal on leaving deathshroud?

If you’re still interested in sucking up condis from allies, perhaps plague signet would be a good investment, as it is a full condi transfer as well as a stunbreak, which can definitely help in a pinch.

Otherwise, I think that you might be better off choosing Spectral Wall for the invaluable protection/fear it provides or Well of Power for group condi conversion.

As for foods, why did you chose the precision maintenance oil? For trying to make use of your 170% crit damage? That power too low to make much of a difference even in Lich form. Switching would net you about 200 extra power which might help your overall damage.

Additionally, I would suggest switching Lich Form out for Plague. It gives good AoE blind or weakness and that poison doesn’t hurt either. But that is just personal preference.

Here’s the build with changes:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fRUQNBmODbkj+o1Zf3rtPbm35N+7/eirhSqAY6GICSAqThXIYB-T1xGABA8wCwTJYuXRhYV/ZJlfvq7Zj9HCAcA8+75e37+7v/+jP+4jP+4O+4jP+4jLFw3KjA-w

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Posted by: Stand The Wall.6987

Stand The Wall.6987

if youre insisting on doing this healer thing, which i have tried, then there are a few things that you should consider.

one, without good mobility, your tanky stats will be made useless as you will (based on the weapons and necro as a caster overall) be far away from the fight and anyone looking to focus you will realize that taking you down last would be the best course of action.

two, in a small group setting, sacrificing everything (damage) to be a healer will hurt your group overall because you can be taken out of a fight due to heavy hard/soft cc pressure. also like someone said life blast isnt the most reliable when it comes to pathing.

three, your entire healing power attribute becomes less and less effective if you arent hitting 5 allies every time you life blast. this sort of build can sorta work in a zerg where this issue isnt present, but small havok squads are an entirely different ballgame.

all in all, it would be a better choice in small havok squads if you chose a guardian or elementalist for this role. their buffs are way better and more plentiful. if you still want to run with this setup, then by all means of course do so. anyways have fun i hope this helped.

ps dont rule out support mesmers. if you run heavy melee that sticks tight like glue they can be really boss.

i guess ill share my interpretation of this role:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fRAQNBHhZakjmearpxoG+bTMMUTWDBRkBQBQ9VEFpLA-TVCDAB0dIASUJoU7PolSvqUGAwTAIH1fERfABnAASBonwI-w

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Posted by: Rangerdeity.5847

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Now that is some nice feedback. The unholy matry was indeed to remain in DS longer and honestly im pretty good with tracking on life blast. The purpose with using this over an ele is for the superior tankyness of necro over ele, as for guardian I just dont like the way I need to get right up next to an ally to heal them makes it hard to heal the backline

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Posted by: Zoso.8279

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I like the idea. Ill have to play around with the idea of a support necro.

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Posted by: NeXeD.3042

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Support necro just fails compared to other classes… it’s why we go dps or go home.

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Posted by: Rangerdeity.5847

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Support necro just fails compared to other classes… it’s why we go dps or go home.

necro dps fails compared to other classes too…. both our power and condi builds fail comparatively to ele and other classes. All necro is the best at is face tanking

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Posted by: NeXeD.3042

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I meant that in a wvw capacity

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Posted by: Rangerdeity.5847

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I meant that in a wvw capacity

eh i find in WvW well of corruption weakness and poison spamming is the most useful we can be go place some poison fields and start blasting also spamming blinds never hurts.

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Posted by: NeXeD.3042

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WoC, WoS, Lb, dagger 1, wh4+5, all staff attacks, ds5+4. Certainly seems like dps to me.

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Posted by: Rangerdeity.5847

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WoC, WoS, Lb, dagger 1, wh4+5, all staff attacks, ds5+4. Certainly seems like dps to me.

meteor shower lava font ice bow 4 dude stop your playing necro like an ele play necro like a necro

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Posted by: NeXeD.3042

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GWEN /15characters

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GWEN /15characters

This except now ranger is part of gwen … sorta