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Posted by: Bailey.6892

Bailey.6892

Hello,
The current build I am running is here http://tinyurl.com/mznpt3g how ever it is not doing as well as I would like. Or more accurately I am failing the build.
I run solo mainly or with one other player flipping camps etc. Was wondering if any one could help me find a build that may work better for me?
I have ran into some enemy necros that were doing great against small groups, they seemed to be using an axe? (Deathly Claws) and a flesh golem.

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Posted by: psygate.5632

psygate.5632

Drop the lich form, use the golem or plague, if you want. You are on condition damage it seems, not power / crit. use Tuning crystals instead of the oil. Drop the sigil of kittentiness, aka Sigil of Spite and use a stunbreaker like Well of Power instead. Just my two pennies of thought.

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Posted by: Bailey.6892

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I will try the well again, although in the past it has performed poorly. On npc’s it is fine although on players it has been fairly useless as they just dodge out and avoid it from the few times I have used it. Will try the other changes as well, thank you psygate.

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Posted by: Afya.5842

Afya.5842

The Well of power psygate mentioned is for you to remove condition or breakstun, not to damage.

Since your trait is focused in fear, I suggest you bring Spectal wall and/or corrupt boon instead of signet of spite. BiP can keep can lose, it’s up to you. You can also consider signet of swiftness for speed.

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Posted by: Bailey.6892

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Any suggestions on a good power and condition build for WvW roaming and camp flipping?

Thanks again for all the help gang.

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Posted by: Flyingbeggars.9406

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http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fQAQJQ7YjMaJ7Zaqb8bA-w: this is my build, and if you know how to use it well (like myself) then you can tackle at least 5 warriors/guardians head on (I’ve tried it and it worked!)
so hope this helps

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Posted by: Nessuno.1253

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http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fQAQJQ7YjMaJ7Zaqb8bA-w: this is my build, and if you know how to use it well (like myself) then you can tackle at least 5 warriors/guardians head on (I’ve tried it and it worked!)
so hope this helps

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Posted by: Nessuno.1253

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This is what i am running now. Based off of Nemesis’ power build but not as glassy. Maybe you saw something like this? http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=;00;3kHkH0x37I-K0;9;4T-9-T17B;12;315BUNk6;2ytbUytbUh-kKcFP7;2V1-60B1G2LZR_2i-HN1c;5NYCqcYDq;9;9;9;9;86-6G With Bloodlust and BiP 4k attack. With fury 100% crit chance in DS with 100% crit dmg. Who needs lich form? :P

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Posted by: Ormiga.6183

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Try this one instead. You won’t have to change much.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fQQQNArYWjMap7FbubM8JEoH7CuAiRKOmghSR5kOA-jEyA0CACDI9BKHWEN2qZR0Y1QYqUioafQR0qFCYxEA-w

A few things about your build. You have 100% fear duration but no spectral wall? Remember you can use spectral wall behind you as you’re being chased to fool people into crossing it. This is especially helpful against Thieves and GS Guardians that leap. If they dont cross it then use staff 3 or scepter 2 to cripple and then spectral grasp them into the wall. Make sure to cross the wall as well to get that protection boon. Use spectral armor to get another protection boon and to regain more life force since condition damage specs lack life force generation. You are using precision oils instead of condition damage crystals. Most of your damage is condition so use crystals instead of oils. Finally, use plague form to guarantee a stomp or a rez.

Condition damage specs are far superior to power ones for small group fights and roaming in pvp so I would stay with your condi spec just gotta move some things around. Switch out spectral armor for epidemic when you’re taking out camps and locust signet for when you’re on the move.

EDIT: And if you lose to a warrior don’t feel bad. A berserker warrior with berserker stance will counter anything a condi spec necro can do

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Posted by: Sheobix.8796

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for the OP, the build you linked is a great fail, the person who made it didn’t understand what they were trying to achieve. The terror traits are useless unless you have a specific rune setup (its like, 2 of 3 different types of runes to boost condition duration) and you need rare veggie pizza running 24/7 to get the second tick of fear damage.. and even then it’s mediocre.

Curious as to what you’re trying to do.

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Posted by: Ormiga.6183

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for the OP, the build you linked is a great fail, the person who made it didn’t understand what they were trying to achieve. The terror traits are useless unless you have a specific rune setup (its like, 2 of 3 different types of runes to boost condition duration) and you need rare veggie pizza running 24/7 to get the second tick of fear damage.. and even then it’s mediocre.

Curious as to what you’re trying to do.

Actually he has over 100% fear duration with this build so I’m curious to know where you learned to do maths.

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Posted by: ArchonWing.9480

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I use this:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fQAQNBIhZakRrSvTTcjePBMzw7xjPMM1D4X/cA-jwxAYLBRyCARAMBWEN2KZR0Y11YKXioaA-e

Probably best to get a soldier/knight set for wvw if I have the gold to spare.

This build can be used as ranged support, but it usually has the tools for small group play, namely the dagger immobilize and the warhorn daze. With rune of the pack, warhorn, and spectral walk, my necromancer is really good at running away from angry zergs if needed and mobility if you’re not in a zerg is critical. This has 2 stunbreaks, DS stability, and if you want, add in plague form. That is to avoid the ping pong effect most necromancers experience against other players when running around outside a zerg.

The main thing is that it mostly exploits the fact that life force is pretty easy to gain in wvw and for the most part, spamming f1 for stability and fury every 10 seconds is not a bad idea at all. I do not spend much time autoattacking at all— they’re really just excuses to build up LF if anything.

For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards,
for there you have been and there you will long to return.

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Posted by: oZii.2864

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I am new to necro and I started with http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fQQQNArYWjMap7FbubM8JEoH7CuAiRKOmghSR5kOA-jEyA0CACDI9BKHWEN2qZR0Y1QYqUioafQR0qFCYxEA-w

which is the build ormiga linked.

I since have moved away from terror build into this

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/necromancer/?5.0|6.1b.h5|b.1b.h9.8.1b.h16|1b.7n.1b.7n.1b.7n.1b.7n.1b.7n.1b.9b|2x.0.2w.0.1b.9b.1b.9b.1b.9b.2w.0|u5a0.a4.0.0.u3ac|30.d|0.0.0.0.0|e

It’s a bit different than most condi builds (sorry I used buildcraft) the last trait in spite is for dhuumfire.

I switched to this setup because the condition damage loss from undead runes to 5 engineer and 1 crest of rabid was pretty small on bleeds. The burning took the biggest hit but 681 is still respectable burn damage but I like 2.7k armor at a minimum. Unless I am on my thief or mesmer.

This setup up feels a bit more tanky to me I felt squishy with undead runes and only 20 in SR and in WvW necros are a high priority target for any other small group you encounter. I don’t miss the terror (it is fun though) and I actually will find it hard to give up soul marks in a condi build and near to death has also become a favorite trait of mine also. I just feel like 2.5k armor is pretty squishy for a class with not enough outs and ds is the main out I feel for a necro so why not make it as good as you can get it.

I probably should take foot in the grave as stun warriors are a pain to deal with and I run that same build on my warrior so I know how it plays but still gives me problems on my necro.

Just my opinion.

[Good Fights]Sinndicate{Ele}Sinactic{Engineer}
Sinnastor{Warrior}Sinnacle{Mesmer}Sintacs
{Thief}

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Posted by: Bailey.6892

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Haven’t had a chance to play yet, although wanted to come and say thank you for all the help! Going to try some of them out tonight I hope.

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Posted by: Bailey.6892

Bailey.6892

for the OP, the build you linked is a great fail, the person who made it didn’t understand what they were trying to achieve. The terror traits are useless unless you have a specific rune setup (its like, 2 of 3 different types of runes to boost condition duration) and you need rare veggie pizza running 24/7 to get the second tick of fear damage.. and even then it’s mediocre.

Curious as to what you’re trying to do.

I could have sworn I put it in the op. Solo roaming and camp flipping, the build also does achieve the %100 fear duration.

Although as mentioned was not cutting it for me, or I was failing it hence the asking for help. Thank you all for the help.