How to stick vuln on an elementalist?

How to stick vuln on an elementalist?

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Posted by: Shadelang.3012

Shadelang.3012

Hey all. I have recently started playing a power reaper in PvP. I have had a necro for an extremely long time. But my preffered playstyle has never been meta so its been difficult to get into it. However with reaper a shroud focused playstyle seems more possible. Except for one issue.

It feels like alot of the damage comes from multipliers that activate at x percent health (things like our might generation as well as our heavier multipliers) yet GETTING people to that health seems to involve alot of vuln stacking to boost our early damage (again Im speaking from a power build perspective)

In nearly any class except for elementalist and daredevil I am able to maintain steady vuln stacks. Usually between 12-20. This is often enough to pressure en enemy to the health threshold needed to activate the dmg multipliers. However when an elementalist is involved that all goes out the window. There diamond skin makes it nearly impossible for me to kill them even in a power build. Simply because I can’t hold them down with chill or stack vuln in order to get the damage needed to eat there health through the repeated shocking auras and heals.

The fact that there heals and auras are aoe makes it even worse. As while I can hurt there allies. Its often no where near enough to go through there sustain. Even in a valk or zerk amulet which leaves me EXTREMELY vulnerable to counter pressure.

It feels like any team fight where an elementalist is involved is one im better off simply not participating in. Does anyone have any advice on the matter?

I have heard condition reapers have almost the exact same issue. (getting an ele below the diamond skin limit) so even advice from my condi counterparts would be appreciated.

Ghost Yak

How to stick vuln on an elementalist?

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Posted by: Silv.9207

Silv.9207

A condi reaper can’t kill a tempest that use diamond skin in 1vs1, frequently also in 2vs2.
Any fart that he do give him health. Dodge, Active an aura (and he active a lot of them really easy by leap combo, traits and weapon/utility skills), overcharge water (or any other attunement why them grant him an aura) and when active his heal.
There’s really a insane way a tempest can heal himself for that 1-2k that need to stay up that 90% hp.
That make it Unkillable for any reaper that use conditions.

It was good if they was unable to deal damage but they can stack might and spam conditions and direct damage AoE, giving you really good damage, expecially compared to the fact that they’re with a pure bunker build and you’re spamming all your skills just trying to take them under 90% hp without any result.

A condi reaper can kill only a Bad empest but can’t kill a good tempest (not a pro or a really good one, simply a good player that know 2-3 combo and repeat them all the time).

Actually I still play as a condi reaper why I love conditions and the reaper is really funny to play. For shure not the best class for spvp, but good and funny.

If you’re a direct damage reaper try to attack him with dagger and immobilize him when go under 90% of hp, making him not able to move around (why the tempest have also a really good mobility, like he had not enough self sustain…) and you able to strike him.
If you take him down 90-80% of hp try to active the RS and double tap 3, activating the fear and blocking whi, then skill 5 and 4 to stun and spam chill.
At 90% of cases he will simply teleport away and turn back with full heal (just a dodge and an aura and he’s up 90% hp), granting you new troubles to take him down that kitten 90% hp again.

Actually there’s not a real way to kill a tempest as a reaper. Too much heal, mobility, damage (by both condi and direct damage + lot of might stacks) and ways to clean/immunity to conditions to make him really killable.

Still before the HoT release DS was a good trait, now is a trait everyone want to have. That’s not why he’s been more good, it’s effect is still the old one. It’s why the Tempest obtained a incredible and easy way to obtain heal and keep himself up to 100% hp for all the time, making all the conditions (not only condition damage) useless against him.

Actually there’s aonly a single way to kill a tempest: be more than him in number or have a really good teamplay and fight always with at last another teammate.

Never fight a tempest as a reaper, you will only die.

(I’ve killed some tempests as a reaper condi, but that’s why they was really bad players unable to do a simple aura/utility chain to keep they’re hp up the 90%, any good or barely skilled player will be never killed by a condi reaper and will make any other reaper build unable to kill him easy)