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Posted by: Zikory.6871

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we necros do not have any abilities to face tank focus dmg unless we are taking the minion build or the well build.

What?

alright im not an expert , but IMO we dont have that attrition good?

Necro is the best face-tanking class out there due to DS/Plague/DS chain. We just can’t escape the focus very well. We can take it up the kitten for far longer than any other class though. :P

I thought i said it in the very first reply about that, we are not good at face tanking focus dmg… did I ? pls read well dude

We are the best at face-tanking damage focus damage, not good at escaping it. Escaping damage isn’t the same thing as face-tanking it.

so … when 3 person focusing fire on you, stunning and knocking back, placing 10 stacks of bleed, cofusion, torment on you and you can survive that just by face tanking ? good job

We can survive it better than another class due to high health, death shroud, and plague form. Maybe you don’t fully understand the term ‘face-tank.’

I would LOVE to see videos of your build in action facetanking focused fire. If you’re not lying you would now become the single best necromancer in the game. They will rename it to Oozo Wars 2

Hes more or less lieing. Here is a video from the link in his sig. While they did do well he was able to move for the most part freely in the fight, till he got focused and downed.

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Posted by: Oozo.7856

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we necros do not have any abilities to face tank focus dmg unless we are taking the minion build or the well build.

What?

alright im not an expert , but IMO we dont have that attrition good?

Necro is the best face-tanking class out there due to DS/Plague/DS chain. We just can’t escape the focus very well. We can take it up the kitten for far longer than any other class though. :P

I thought i said it in the very first reply about that, we are not good at face tanking focus dmg… did I ? pls read well dude

We are the best at face-tanking damage focus damage, not good at escaping it. Escaping damage isn’t the same thing as face-tanking it.

so … when 3 person focusing fire on you, stunning and knocking back, placing 10 stacks of bleed, cofusion, torment on you and you can survive that just by face tanking ? good job

We can survive it better than another class due to high health, death shroud, and plague form. Maybe you don’t fully understand the term ‘face-tank.’

I would LOVE to see videos of your build in action facetanking focused fire. If you’re not lying you would now become the single best necromancer in the game. They will rename it to Oozo Wars 2

It doesn’t take a lot of skill to tank damage with DS—>Plague—>DS. That is a kitten-ton of health that they have to eat through. Necro is the best class for facetanking focus damage.

By best, I mean that they can survive the longest. Not that they will survive it. Nobody survives persistent focus damage. Also, I’m thinking you probably don’t understand what the term ‘facetanking’ means either.

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Posted by: Oozo.7856

Oozo.7856

we necros do not have any abilities to face tank focus dmg unless we are taking the minion build or the well build.

What?

alright im not an expert , but IMO we dont have that attrition good?

Necro is the best face-tanking class out there due to DS/Plague/DS chain. We just can’t escape the focus very well. We can take it up the kitten for far longer than any other class though. :P

I thought i said it in the very first reply about that, we are not good at face tanking focus dmg… did I ? pls read well dude

We are the best at face-tanking damage focus damage, not good at escaping it. Escaping damage isn’t the same thing as face-tanking it.

so … when 3 person focusing fire on you, stunning and knocking back, placing 10 stacks of bleed, cofusion, torment on you and you can survive that just by face tanking ? good job

We can survive it better than another class due to high health, death shroud, and plague form. Maybe you don’t fully understand the term ‘face-tank.’

I would LOVE to see videos of your build in action facetanking focused fire. If you’re not lying you would now become the single best necromancer in the game. They will rename it to Oozo Wars 2

Hes more or less lieing. Here is a video from the link in his sig. While they did do well he was able to move for the most part freely in the fight, till he got focused and downed.

The guardian next to me also got downed there and I didn’t have plague form up since I used it to tank them when they were aoe bombing their downed. Necro is the best class for tanking damage.

Also, I screwed up there and left death shroud too early as I didn’t think I was going to get focused that hard. So, the reason I went down there was because I made a mistake. Otherwise, I probably would have survived that focus.

That is a 5v13+ BTW. And while they were focusing me the other DPS with me downed a good number of them and got quite a few of them low health. That is what a necro does. When they draw fire, they try to ride it out as long as possible so their team is free to go full DPS.

That group would have put about zero pressure on me if it had been a 5v5, focus or not.

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Posted by: ArmageddonAsh.6430

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Plague form = 20 seconds of stability
also if traited you can dish out psn/blind/chil every second with Plague 2 so yes we can facetank, that does not mean we will make it out alive it means we can soak up lots of dmg.

Stability, now it would be a shame if someone removed it…

we are necro’s we all should know the risk of using stability without cover boons.

Curious what other Boons can we apply?

Swiftness(Warhorn
Regen (Staff, Focus)
Stability (Trait, Well)
Retal(Axe)

We don’t exactly have a huge amount of access to Boons like some classes.

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Posted by: Brando.1374

Brando.1374

Plague form = 20 seconds of stability
also if traited you can dish out psn/blind/chil every second with Plague 2 so yes we can facetank, that does not mean we will make it out alive it means we can soak up lots of dmg.

Stability, now it would be a shame if someone removed it…

we are necro’s we all should know the risk of using stability without cover boons.

Curious what other Boons can we apply?

Swiftness(Warhorn
Regen (Staff, Focus)
Stability (Trait, Well)
Retal(Axe)

We don’t exactly have a huge amount of access to Boons like some classes.

solo no we cant, but with a group we can get boons from everyone
besides we still have the ability to blind spam and have a huge hp and armor boost when we get into plague. so like I said we might not make it out alive but we can tank for a very long time.

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Posted by: Bacardi Babe.4391

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Plague Form Lyssa setup
Might want to try PVT Armour with Superior Rune of Lyssa.
Use Chocolate Omnomberry Cream(20% boon duration) with 20 traited in Death Magic(20% boon duration.) which also works for staff greater marks.
Total 40% Boon Duration ~ 7secs.
Superior Rune of Lyssa = When you use an elite skill, lose all conditions and gain all boons for 5 seconds.
Trait for Chilling Darkness = Blinding a target will also apply chill for 1 sec.
Rotation = Cast Locust Swarm(Speed + Cripple & Critical Procs) + Spectral Armor (Protection) + Spectral Walk(Speed) then Plague #2 for duration in zerg.

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Posted by: Stand The Wall.6987

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Getting hit by condis in ds or plague doesnt mean you have to sit there and take the damage. Do the best you can then pop out to cleanse yourself.

Yeah, you can pop out & hit Consume Conditions & pray that no one in the zerg interrupts you during that 1.25s Obviously telegraphed activation time. And hope that you have enough life/time to withstand the onslaught in the meanwhile.

Got a video of that?

There is usually no risk to using your heal or staff 4/ dagger 4 behind the train. If you start getting hit hard by condis, then let the train get a lil ahead of you to take aggro. I rarely have a problem with this issue. Good luck.

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Posted by: Noble.3647

Noble.3647

The impression I got was that he was likely roaming solo. He made no mention of a group or zerg. Which is why I said avoid zergs. I roam solo, and zergs are deadly.

But, yeah, if you are in a zerg, you an be safe (esp. with the staff) – more is you stay toward the back of the middle than the far rear. Because if you are in the rear and not watching your kitten , you can get ganked from behind.

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