Guild Wars 2

Am I missing something with the Horn skill Wail of Doom? It seems chintzy to me.

It’s a 2 second stun. It hits in a cone, so it can hit multiple targets. And that’s it. This doesn’t seem that impressive for one of the only two Horn skill slots.

Am I missing something? Like does this rock in PVP or something?

My experience in PVE at least is that the stun usually times out by the time the attack animation processes. And there’s no other effect – no condition, no direct damage.

I guess I could see using this to try to catch fleeing players in PVP, under rare circumstances… but this seems really conditional and not really worth using up a precious weapon skill slot.

And the duration of the stun is so short that I’m having trouble seeing how this would be useful against mobs.

Is there a killer combo with another weapon that I’ve missed?

Lol, necros don’t have any stuns. (The only class without 1)

Wail of Doom is a daze. You won’t be “catching fleeing players” with a daze anytime soon.

A daze… So that makes me even more puzzled as to how this is useful… it may just be me, but the effect is literally gone before I can trigger my next attack.

I don’t bother with Warhorn. The only OH weapon I use is Dagger. I’m a power necro and it’s still better than the focus or the warhorn.

It’s used as an interrupt – do you not understand the basic game mechanics?

2s is a long time in PvP, and if you get VIII in Curses + runes of the mesmer, you can make it a 4s daze

Theoretically that’s 4s of your opponents doing nothing while you and your teammates smack them around

Not quite as imba as Moa of course, but at least it can hit more than one person =D

Morvian.3270:

I don’t bother with Warhorn. The only OH weapon I use is Dagger. I’m a power necro and it’s still better than the focus or the warhorn.

I use a dagger MH, too, and even if the #4 skill shot out pink bunnies at people, I would still use the warhorn for locust swarm alone

This makes me wonder, are MH #1 considered a skill for this? If so it is in some ways a stronger control than chill, as chill only affects the recharge, not the activation time. And #1 skill usually do not have a recharge. as such your buying yourself 2 seconds of no incoming damage. I really do have to reevaluate my ignorance of warhorn, especially if i am to revisit daggers.

I suspect the main reason it gets ignored is that there is no proper indication of how wide a cone we are talking about. If it has been AOE like the Axe Feast people may have been more likely to take a look at it.

Squeesidhe.4761:

Am I missing something with the Horn skill Wail of Doom? It seems chintzy to me.

It’s a 2 second stun. It hits in a cone, so it can hit multiple targets. And that’s it. This doesn’t seem that impressive for one of the only two Horn skill slots.

Am I missing something? Like does this rock in PVP or something?

My experience in PVE at least is that the stun usually times out by the time the attack animation processes. And there’s no other effect – no condition, no direct damage.

I guess I could see using this to try to catch fleeing players in PVP, under rare circumstances… but this seems really conditional and not really worth using up a precious weapon skill slot.

And the duration of the stun is so short that I’m having trouble seeing how this would be useful against mobs.

Is there a killer combo with another weapon that I’ve missed?

i think skills bugged cuz everytime i use it nothing happens no one so much as even pauses for blink of an eye

digiowl.9620:

This makes me wonder, are MH #1 considered a skill for this? If so it is in some ways a stronger control than chill, as chill only affects the recharge, not the activation time. And #1 skill usually do not have a recharge. as such your buying yourself 2 seconds of no incoming damage. I really do have to reevaluate my ignorance of warhorn, especially if i am to revisit daggers.

I don’t get the question. What do MH skills have to do with the warhorn or chills?

riotnrrrd.9582:

i think skills bugged cuz everytime i use it nothing happens no one so much as even pauses for blink of an eye

It’s a DAZE, no one is going to pause because they are dazed. There is a slight effect around there head (circles)

Well daze says it makes the target unable to use skills, while chill makes skill recharges take longer. But i have never noticed any slowdown in auto-attacks while chilled, meaning that chill do not really affect mainhand auto-attack skills. Daze on the other hand will, as it locks the skills rather than make them take longer to recharge. Meaning that daze will be way more effective on any profession that rely on auto-attack for their steady DPS.

digiowl.9620:

Well daze says it makes the target unable to use skills, while chill makes skill recharges take longer. But i have never noticed any slowdown in auto-attacks while chilled, meaning that chill do not really affect mainhand auto-attack skills. Daze on the other hand will, as it locks the skills rather than make them take longer to recharge. Meaning that daze will be way more effective on any profession that rely on auto-attack for their steady DPS.

If you want chain dazes roll a mesmer- they can easily do 4+ in a row (It’s their thing, like necros and fea… like thieves and stealth). You’re not going to get much out of the one daze on warhorn.

I mean kitten man, half the people here don’t even know what their own dang skills do. Now I completely understand why so many complain about the Necro.

Whargoul.9613 – you cant most of the time, it has a 1/2 second cast time
To the thread, its a pretty strong skill since the animation is pretty much half the actually effect size, its nice for stopping enemies that piled on a friend or just plain “stunning” creeps (daze = stun for most npcs since their ai is about just 2.25x as smart as necro minion ai and 0.75x as smart as hunter pet ai).

its actually not so bad, the only problem I have with that spell is the long cast time that makes it alot harder to use as an interrupt

Wail of doom also stops Npcs from moving for some reason. They just don’t move like they are stunned.

digiowl.9620:

But i have never noticed any slowdown in auto-attacks while chilled, meaning that chill do not really affect mainhand auto-attack skills.

It’s because chill doesn’t slow attack speed, only recharge speed, and autoattacks have no recharge.

Hmm. Would it not also be affected by spite?

Also, its worth noting that its a 600 range cone. That is going to be quite wide at full range, so its going to potentially hit a LOT of targets.

Wail is very strong, dazed condition prevents enemy’s from using skills for its duration. Not so great in pve… but in pvp you get to wail on the enemy for 2-3 seconds with impunity.

because the warhorn is uselesss and those that tell you other wise are the ones that use it they make me lol when i see them in spvp

Dibrom.6408:

If you want chain dazes roll a mesmer- they can easily do 4+ in a row (It’s their thing, like necros and fea… like thieves and stealth). You’re not going to get much out of the one daze on warhorn.

Doesn’t matter how frequent one can daze if one can’t use it in opportune times. Yes, Mesmers can interrupt more frequently than Necros, but having the daze, Reaper’s Mark, and Fear in Death Shroud means you can interrupt decently as well.

It won’t do jack kitten if you waste your CD to daze their auto-attack, but stopping their heal at 30% is all you need to win. How effective the daze is entirely depends on your timing, I think it’s great. And that’s just one of the few key thing you’d WANT to interrupt. Obviously, your mileage may vary.

the absolutely only thing the warhorn is good for in Spvp is possibly using it to daze people trying to stomp, heal or rez.

But even then there are better options due to the long windup to cast. Even the locust swarm is useless. (By useless i mean there are better options that give you more bang for your buck)

if you are looking for a good stun/knock down for PvP, i like to use the flesh golem knock down. In conjunction with fears and immobilize (MH Dagger) its pretty effective at locking others down.

Drawback being that its attached to an uncontrollable pet who is more easily distracted then a rabid squirrel…

Parakeet.6083:

Wail is very strong, dazed condition prevents enemy’s from using skills for its duration. Not so great in pve… but in pvp you get to wail on the enemy for 2-3 seconds with impunity.

What does wailing on them with impunity in Necro language=) Watching bleeds tick away while 2 or 3 other players wail on you while you watch? I’d LOOOOOOVE to ever get in a 1 vs 1. I don’t do tourneys so maybe thats where PvP doesn’t involve 5-8 people mucking up the screen with AOE rainbow barf effects that cover up whats actually going on=) Lets not mention WvW.

Josher.9612:

Parakeet.6083:

Wail is very strong, dazed condition prevents enemy’s from using skills for its duration. Not so great in pve… but in pvp you get to wail on the enemy for 2-3 seconds with impunity.

What does wailing on them with impunity in Necro language=) Watching bleeds tick away while 2 or 3 other players wail on you while you watch? I’d LOOOOOOVE to ever get in a 1 vs 1. I don’t do tourneys so maybe thats where PvP doesn’t involve 5-8 people mucking up the screen with AOE rainbow barf effects that cover up whats actually going on=) Lets not mention WvW.

Well if you are getting beat down in a 4 vs 1 thats a personal problem I can’t help you with your skill level unless you want to schedule some pvp classes with me.

Wail of doom comes out in a cone shape in front of you, if you need to learn how to use it practice dummies are available. You can daze multiple people with it. I hit 2 people with it on a normal basis and have hit up to 4 with fair regularity.

Warhorn is part of my strongest build.

The ability to lock out someone for 2 seconds is massive.

Death shroud fear → golem knock down → wail of doom

That is a bunch of time the opponent can’t do anything.

Rizach.4852:

Warhorn is part of my strongest build.

The ability to lock out someone for 2 seconds is massive.

Death shroud fear -> golem knock down -> wail of doom

That is a bunch of time the opponent can’t do anything.

Its also almost the same amount of time setting the chain up lol. Use DS fear, theres a second, the golem knockdown nother half a second, and wail of doom(lol that cast time)

@jaydee, ds fear does not take a second to use. Knockdown will interrupt enemy skill and does damage and knocks them down for some times. Wail of doom will also interrupt the currently casting enemy skill and stop him from using any others for 2 seconds.

You can intentionally wait for a second after the enemy comes out of one of them to use the next so they have just enough time to start doing something before they get interrupted.

I use it to interrupt. Too bad it doesn’t work on most bosses, they are immune

Night Priestess.8123:

I use it to interrupt. Too bad it doesn’t work on most bosses, they are immune

Who cares about pve though, its made for you to win against. Pvp is where this skill really shines.