Guild Wars 2

…instead of Percent.
Yes, I’m talking about DS and LF.
I just now tested: when I have full LF on a 0 SR char and go to 30, I suddenly have 77%.
Yeah, it kinda struck me as odd, but then I realized that 77 × 1.3 = 100.1
But still, the following things prevail:
Even though I have 30% more LF, I can’t stay in DS 30% longer.
Also, I can still only use LB for 50% of my DS time.
AND I can shoot between 17-19 LB while in DS with 100% LF no matther the traits.
Does this actually have ANY effect at all?
I’m being serious here, what’s the USE?
Why do I still lose 4% of my total LF per second and still the same % of LF with every LB???

What’s the POINT?
If the only Thing I can do more is take damage., then ANet just solidifies DS as a bubble without funtionality!

IT’s only to take more damage.

And I think LF scale with vitality, so it can be a huge boost in survability for soaking damage.

But I agree it stuck that it’s a % of our LF pool that degenerate.

Kardiamond.6952:

IT’s only to take more damage.

And I think LF scale with vitality, so it can be a huge boost in survability for soaking damage.

But I agree it stuck that it’s a % of our LF pool that degenerate.

Switching from Rabid to Rampager Amulet in PvP gave me 284 Vitality.
Before I had 100% LF. Then I had 85%.
I had 100% of HP at both points.
This is an amazing difference as far as I can see it!
I am so going to keep my 30/0/0/20/20 Build now!
I was thinking about going 30/10/30 instead, but I’m not ready to give up on 20% faster wells when the extra Vit gives me LF as well!
Just have to find a use for Major Slot 10, since Mark of Evasion is nigh-useless now!

The better thing to point out besides OP thoughts and observations is how damage functions against percentage. If each 1% is say 1000hp and you are being attacked in amounts of 2-3k, then you would lose 2-3%. This also means if you get hit for 100 points of damage you still lose 1% even though it is not 1000 points of damage. Now, think of conditions. They tick at low intervals. So by this standard you are not taking the full amount of damage DS is supposed to provide. It’s great for hard hits but anything under the 1% interval is wasted hp loss. 1000hp for each percent is a stretch and only used to illustrate my point easier. In actuality it’s about 200 or so hp per 1%. But given that notion if you add 30% from SR it just makes each 1% interval bigger instead of allowing more damage absorption because conditions will still tick it away just as fast. The only real gain is from the bigger hits. As the OP stated there is no longer duration, you still get off the same amount of hits you would normally.

Feels pretty poorly done at this point. Even if it means more work they should have a numerical value. The way it is now you can exploit it by dropping a bleed ticking for 30 damage every second and be just as effective if not more so then an actual all out attack. Just to clarify to those who don’t know, you can’t use any abilities, as those that could remove the condition, nor will you even know its there because of the UI design when engaging the form.

One last bit of salt for the wound is that gluttony (+5% LF to LF gaining abilities) does nothing. At least at a faster gain of life force it could be feasible to accept this but it’s most likely not going to get fixed as it is probably working as intended. Such a crucial trait I would think would have been #1 on the list as it is a great add to any build and for only 5 points. A topic many people complain they have a hard time dealing with in certain builds is LF gain. It may just be my opinion but it makes sense to me. Go figure, right?

If LF degenerated as points instead of %, very few builds would be viable. Toughness/Vitality already scale very well on necros, this would make them must have stats. Being that the only pvp amulet with good toughness and vit is soldiers, that also shoves condition builds out. You would also be expected to take 30 in SR. I run a build like this on map 3 when we don’t have an ele sometimes, and it’s already very strong. I’ll happily kill the treb with 2 or 3 guys on me.

Yes it would be nice in one way, but then every other build would need a buff to keep them on par, and then every other class would need a buff to keep them on par.

That is all pretty debatable. I will agree in a full SR build with toughness and vitality I last pretty long as well against 2 or 3 people. However, I wasn’t saying it should be numerical for that reason. I was suggesting an alternative to the exploit of meager damage doing just as much as large sums when distributed the right way. Have 2 of your buddies throw a bunch of bleeds on you with no extra condition damage. Your bar will vanish just as fast as if someone hit your for large sums of damage. If it was your actual health your would see the difference in damage where as in DS it is potentially the same.

Maybe a numerical value might entice people to stick to that build base but no more then I see the obscene amount of bunker guardians I’m guessing. In my opinion, if it’s my special mechanic why shouldn’t I be able to take full advantage of it. I feel we should as our burst ability is not quite on par as other classes.

Either way though, one other alternative would be to make the bar register as 130%. It’s not exact but it still can retain the current allocation of hp per 1% that would equal the benefits of using the SR line. We would also feel the difference in time gained by taking SR, and it could semi counter act the condition problem I am seeing. Some might see it as an exploit, some will say its just a price to pay for extra beef. It’s all debatable and it’s all opinion. I would just like to actually feel a difference is all, as it stands now it’s minute at best. Could just be me.