Guild Wars 2

Hey necromates!
The purpose of this thread is to try to get some ArenaNet attention over us (yes, I know this must be the 218342424 thread about that).

Excluding Karl McLain’s post on Spectral Walk bug-exploit fix, we don’t have a single red post in our forum section, and we have the most active threads in the professions section. That’s being said, we obviously have the most bugged profession (it feels like a beta-state profession for me) and, at the same time, one of the hardest to master and what do we get? No words from ArenaNet, only the world famous “master DS” from JP.

I don’t want a full detail of what are devs doing to improve necro state because of their iteration way of implementing things in the game, I perfectly understand that but why don’t we get a red post like this: Ranger Update ??

I think we need an insight of where are they focusing on the profession because we are losing all the patience after 2 months since release (I know all of you necromancers aren’t losing it, but the general feeling is that).
So, please, ArenaNet keep up informed at least of what we can expect to be improved or reworked, we deserve it.

Thanks for your attention everyone.

PS.: Sorry if my English a bit bad, it’s not my main language

I`m still reluctant to belive Anet`s so called “transparency” when they cannot even bother to give us a clue about upcoming fixes (if they`re even working on any).
Maybe they are waiting for us to master DS

Anet’s communication with the Necro and Elementalists so far has been really abyssmal. Though if you check the dev tracker, you’ll see that a majority of their posts are copy + paste responses and moderations.

Compared to Riot Games, who really do actually put effort into responding to issues in a timely and honest manner on forums, it’s actually quite embarassing.

@Lifelike: they have two different ways of community communication, that’s true. But the best thing of Riot is what they have done for this year’s halloween, they didn’t decorate 5vs5 map because reworking 3vs3 map were their priority, I can’t say the same thing of ArenaNet.

The thing is, I know they don’t want to talk about things that can change 1 day after they announce them, but why not let us know their insight on the current state of the profession? By doing only that they will improve a lot their communication to their players.

I was just thinking of making a similar post myself after looking back over 20 pages and seeing only 2 dev posts. In all fairness tho its probably hard to get on here and post a sentence or two when the is halloween stuff to nerf.

All I can say is … +1, well waiting for some game change maybe i will just go back to LOL for a while Your HALLOWEEN event is nice OK, but… you guys know THE CONTENT is more important than apparence right?
See u wanna-be-devs

“Hey Necro’s, we know you’re not happy and still have issues to work out, we’re working on it still, some more stuff incoming soon-ish/sometime.”

All we need. =p

^ won’t happen. They are adopting the Blizz standard stonewalling tactics in dealing with broken classes and legitimate complaints about class bugs. I have all but given up expecting any meaningful repair of the class.

Please folks, be respectful. We all want an update on the necromancer state from ArenaNet but that’s not the way. So please, be constructive ^^

@Ithir
Well to be fair, the art guys did the redecoration for Halloween.

Knote.2904:

“Hey Necro’s, we know you’re not happy and still have issues to work out, we’re working on it still, some more stuff incoming soon-ish/sometime.”

All we need. =p

No, because theyve been saying that since beta for us. Im done waiting, and if they posted that they would get flammed. Hence the stone cold silence.

Edit: Also, everytime we get a couple bug fixes, a couple more appear and more people find. There is a thread currently investigating if the soul reaping trait line even gives u 30% lifeforce. From what ive read so far it doesnt…Just another day in Necroville

Onedoesnotsimply.5740:

Knote.2904:

“Hey Necro’s, we know you’re not happy and still have issues to work out, we’re working on it still, some more stuff incoming soon-ish/sometime.”

All we need. =p

No, because theyve been saying that since beta for us. Im done waiting, and if they posted that they would get flammed. Hence the stone cold silence.

Edit: Also, everytime we get a couple bug fixes, a couple more appear and more people find. There is a thread currently investigating if the soul reaping trait line even gives u 30% lifeforce. From what ive read so far it doesnt…Just another day in Necroville

You are right, I remember in the last beta when they said that necromancers, thieves and mesmers needed a lot of love (necro was the one who needed more) and look at thieves and mesmers now. That’s why we have that we-are-still-a-beta-profession feeling and that’s right, and that’s why we NEED to get some hints of their current work on the necro.

Like onedoesnotsimply said, the devs would just get flamed if they posted that. As of right now most necros are upset because way back in the beta they said we were the class who needed the most love, and then proceeded to nerf us at release without fixing most of the issues from BWE 1-3.

The only really positive change since then I have felt as a minion master was them fixing the flesh golem’s charge. However it cost us jagged horrors without degen that you could get up to 5 maintained at once, and a flesh golem who didn’t drown. (to be fair he didn’t have a swimming animation, but still).

The Devs are in a kind of no win bind right now…granted, they let the class deteriorate to the point it is at now, but I’m betting that if they could change the past to not let that happen, they would given the latent rage in this class forum.

striker.3704:

(to be fair he didn’t have a swimming animation, but still).

Seems to enjoy floating around when slapped with confusion by them neon skeletons in the mad kings labyrinth tho. First time i wondered if the thing had gone religious.

Best i can tell, the necro issues stem from the devs at some point having the idea of giving the death mage a special down state. But they just could not make it work alongside the rest of the professions, as it made the necro a tough nut to crack in PVP point captures. And that is no fun in a game aimed at e-sport. So they nipped and tucked rather than consider alternative profession mechanics, and things ended up where we are now.

I don’t care about dev posts, but it would be nice if obvious bugs were fixed at first place. Then we can start whining about nerfs and boosts when our traits and skills actually work like they’re supposed to.

I give some examples:
1) polymorph gfx’s/skillbar bugged → really annoying when whole class rolls around DS
2) fear skills/traits are are bugged in some odd ways I still try to figure out → really annoying when it’s one of necro main “stuff” or at least probably most useful of all supposedly useful traits.
3) those hp/downed bugs, really.
4) Death Magic: all static traits related to minions, should be really optional. Because Jagged horror.

I am playing actively 3 other classes too but necro is most bugged by far. At least other classes seem to work like in descriptions and don’t suffer from seemingly simple and dumb bugs.

jalmari.3906:

I don’t care about dev posts, but it would be nice if obvious bugs were fixed at first place. Then we can start whining about nerfs and boosts when our traits and skills actually work like they’re supposed to.

I give some examples:
1) polymorph gfx’s/skillbar bugged -> really annoying when whole class rolls around DS
2) fear skills/traits are are bugged in some odd ways I still try to figure out -> really annoying when it’s one of necro main “stuff” or at least probably most useful of all supposedly useful traits.
3) those hp/downed bugs, really.
4) Death Magic: all static traits related to minions, should be really optional. Because Jagged horror.

I am playing actively 3 other classes too but necro is most bugged by far. At least other classes seem to work like in descriptions and don’t suffer from seemingly simple and dumb bugs.

I can’t agree more with your Death Magic’s points.
IMHO, jagged horrors are totally trash (maybe if someday with get a nice AI to minions they become more useful) and the trait that gives you more armor based on the number of your minions should be optional, right now if you want to build tanky, you need to have minions.

People need to stop expecting changes, I’m fairly certain that necro won’t get any real changes for a very long time.

We just have to put up with the 1 viable build in PvP, low and easily countered damage and 150 or so bugs. GOOD TIMES!

What Aga said. I doubt we’re gonna see that many changes seeing as how we haven’t been getting any special attention (seeing as how we are THE most bugged and kittened over class and I think other classes would understand us getting a bit more attention than them for a few patches) we probably won’t. I still hope. Necro is my class. I don’t play anything else.

No, we need to keep expecting changes as paying customers but also realize that Anet doesn’t give two kitten about the class.

Time keeps passing by and we don’t have any update or word from somebody of ArenaNet. I’m wondering if they are making an epic patch for necros or if they just don’t want to look at our reality.

• Posted by a fan of this game since GW1 who is losing all the faith in this game.

@Ithir : Be sure and let us know when you get infracted for this thread. I know you are saying “But why would they do that?”

Asking for a Dev response = "Infracted for posting a “Call-Out thread”

kinderghast.8501:

@Ithir : Be sure and let us know when you get infracted for this thread. I know you are saying “But why would they do that?”

Asking for a Dev response = "Infracted for posting a “Call-Out thread”

I’ll let you all know that if they do it for sure. But I’m very tired of this situation, they used to say something like this: we will ship the game when it’s ready. Is this ready? I don’t think so (and I’m not alone with this thought).
So that being said, if I infracted a forum rule I’m sorry but someone has to point out this injustice even if he must pay the consecuences of doing it.

@Ithir Darkleaf
Eh, I received 3 infractions in one thread (yes, the Karl Mclaine post). Not really going to apologize for them. I haven’t seen our apology, or was the dev infracted for that? XD

BUT, do not fret! We can always do as the mod says and follow this post in the “Trashcan” thread!

You can tell when he is infracted since it will say “xxx was infracted for this post”. Saw some other guy get this for a similar thread where he was asking for feedback.

I just moved on and started to play my guardian instead. Now I feel overpowered.

I will follow what OP stated. Please Anet, for the love we both bear for GW, be that Guild Wars or Guild Wars 2; talk to us! We just want to know whats up, even if that means beeing told nothing is going to happen before next year, let us know so we don’t have to speculate in the darkness any longer.

As this discussion has run its course, the thread is locked.