Guild Wars 2

I have just rolled Necro and have been taking her into WvW around level 40. So far I am greatly enjoying it. I have one question about Death Shroud though.

I was fighting a thief, and both times I tried to go into Death Shroud, it looked like it was interrupted, and it went on cooldown.

Is this possible? Can the casting of Death Shroud be interrupted? Or is something else the culprit (I may have double-clicked the cast button, but I don’t think I did).

If you press the button in quick succession it will cancel out DS and Plague as well.

It’s also possible to fail if you get stun/dazed/cced in general at around the same time as you hit f1. But that is very very rare because timing has to be almost exact.

HiSaZuL.2843:

It’s also possible to fail if you get stun/dazed/cced in general at around the same time as you hit f1. But that is very very rare because timing has to be almost exact.

Are you sure about that? DS is instant cast, so it shouldn’t be possible to interrupt it. I mean, it can be used while you’re stunned so getting stunned right before it shouldn’t matter and it’s physically impossible to get stunned during the cast time since it doesn’t have one.

OP: I’d say you probably hit the key twice. I can’t really think of any other explanation

yski.7642:

HiSaZuL.2843:

It’s also possible to fail if you get stun/dazed/cced in general at around the same time as you hit f1. But that is very very rare because timing has to be almost exact.

Are you sure about that? DS is instant cast, so it shouldn’t be possible to interrupt it. I mean, it can be used while you’re stunned so getting stunned right before it shouldn’t matter and it’s physically impossible to get stunned during the cast time since it doesn’t have one.

OP: I’d say you probably hit the key twice. I can’t really think of any other explanation

It’s possible and happens all the time. I hit DS, as a warrior charges it knocks me out of it. It has happened against any knockdown or daze, and only happens if you activate it and it hasn’t fully swapped your skills before getting hit.

Bas.7406:

It’s possible and happens all the time. I hit DS, as a warrior charges it knocks me out of it. It has happened against any knockdown or daze, and only happens if you activate it and it hasn’t fully swapped your skills before getting hit.

I suppose I’ll take back my doubts, then. OP’s DS could’ve been interrupted, though it would’ve taken inhuman reflexes or amazing luck.

I find it weird I never noticed it myself though. Can the skills in DS be used before they are properly swapped? Usually when I try to avoid a spike I use the fear more or less at the same time as I enter DS, so maybe I’ve interrupted the potential interrupt. If so, fearing as you enter DS might be a good idea just to be sure you actually stay in DS

..I’ll test that, actually
EDIT: Seems like you can, so that means you could interrupt before getting interrupted. I entered the DS hitting 3 right after the DS button (bound to < for me) and the icon appeared on cooldown as soon as it, well, appeared. My recording FPS is poor so I can’t be 100% sure not being able to slow things down, but based on a glance it seems to work.

yski.7642:

Bas.7406:

It’s possible and happens all the time. I hit DS, as a warrior charges it knocks me out of it. It has happened against any knockdown or daze, and only happens if you activate it and it hasn’t fully swapped your skills before getting hit.

I suppose I’ll take back my doubts, then. OP’s DS could’ve been interrupted, though it would’ve taken inhuman reflexes or amazing luck.

I find it weird I never noticed it myself though. Can the skills in DS be used before they are properly swapped? Usually when I try to avoid a spike I use the fear more or less at the same time as I enter DS, so maybe I’ve interrupted the potential interrupt. If so, fearing as you enter DS might be a good idea just to be sure you actually stay in DS

..I’ll test that, actually
EDIT: Seems like you can, so that means you could interrupt before getting interrupted. I entered the DS hitting 3 right after the DS button (bound to < for me) and the icon appeared on cooldown as soon as it, well, appeared. My recording FPS is poor so I can’t be 100% sure not being able to slow things down, but based on a glance it seems to work.

You can cast your instants right after you hit the DS key, but you can’t do a LB until it has fully swapped. So you can hit DS get stunned, dazed, knocked back and still have pulled a fear off, and yet not be in ds anymore.

It’s not like it happens all the time, but in tournaments it will occassionally happen quite a bit against that ridiculous Hammer Guardian, D/D ele combo.

I swear I’ve been knocked out a full second or two after shrouding, after I’ve even begun my life siphon, with lots of lifeforce in the tank. I think there may be other errors present, or some things just take a heck of a long time to catch up.

this is a valid point. I also have been noticing the same. I’d have full lifeforce and DS’d into for a second or so and be knocked out of it somehow. Usually this occurs in tight quarters teamfights where its hard to say what really happened if I didnt die (not having a death recap).

I hope this is just a bug that can be fixed. I’ve even been knocked out and have lost all LF. I’m not completely positive, mind you. But these are uncommon but still often enough to matter. People who have the DS tenacity trait probably do not experience this as often (something I do not currently run on my spvp build).

Thanks for the feedback. I didn’t think I double-tapped.

And it has only happened in close quarter fights.

Is being knocked out of Death Shroud W.A.I.?

It doesn’t happen all that often point is don’t blow you DS while you are getting stunned use it after. That makes certain you do get your shield out and not just a simple fear. Which you can still manage to cast even if you get knocked out of DS. It also applies to some other transformations.
Like I said due to how DS is there is little point in using it during cc itself either before or after said fact so if you use it as a shield you will run less risk of it bugging out on you. OR simply spam the skill that you need, everything except LT will work regardless of whether you will get DS normally or get knocked out of it. You get skills before they visually appear on UI its about instant from the moment DS script runs, I suspect access to skills becomes available far sooner then all animation and ui changes take effect.
Actually did see lt channel when I was flat on my face on the floor… so even that is possible but I only saw that happen like once or twice so I wouldn’t hold my breath for it.

Or maybe with the Unholy sanctuary(if you use it) your hp drop to 0 switch to DS then you press F1 to go in DS but already are so you are out of DS.

also had this happen, a few times. It is definitely some kind of bug people have figured out and are keeping hushed.

Hasn’t happened to me yet. 2 years encounting.

Hasn’t happened to me ever. 2 years+.

On the other hand, I think what happened, was that you were low on lf, got hit and dropped out of shroud. That happens a lot and got "fixed"TM©, so that now puts your shroud on CD. Most probable cause in my opinion.

If this was something that could be exploited, it would happen far more often. It’s not some anti necro conspiracy. I know I’ve felt like I was knocked out of DS, but it hasn’t happened in a long time and I have no way of knowing if I double tapped my keybind or not.

100% necro only character since launch, and I must say yes, this interrupting DS (on cast/entry and not simply double tapping) is new issue. I’m not ready to throw my hat into the exploit arena because it is very difficult to reproduce or to lock down the actual cause. This is not related to the getting knocked out of DS bug, which is even more rare of an occurrence. This interrupting DS started within the last two weeks, and my best guess at the moment is leaning towards a server sync/client connection issue.

Wow. I know this is the necro subforum but… dat_necro

I have noticed some new client issues but nothing specific to DS. Keep watching. I still feel the September update bugged the system.

I have had it happen to me many times… i would be in deathshroud not just clicking it or miss clicking it.. i would be in for a while and then i would get interrupted and knocked right out of it and my DS health would be close to half still…..there is something going on because the ones that know of it do exploit it many times in succession .. its nothing random.

cyclonis.2475:

I have had it happen to me many times… i would be in deathshroud not just clicking it or miss clicking it.. i would be in for a while and then i would get interrupted and knocked right out of it and my DS health would be close to half still…..there is something going on because the ones that know of it do exploit it many times in succession .. its nothing random.

Same here and it is being exploited.

It is getting worse and worse..
Yesterday i played a pvp match and constantly get pulled out of death shroud.
It has almost become useless.

Hope they can fix this!!!

You all know if getting hit depletes your lifeforce right…..

Vortok.6975:

Or maybe with the Unholy sanctuary(if you use it) your hp drop to 0 switch to DS then you press F1 to go in DS but already are so you are out of DS.

When I tried that trait I was so annoyed by it xD

Sandrox.9524:

Vortok.6975:

Or maybe with the Unholy sanctuary(if you use it) your hp drop to 0 switch to DS then you press F1 to go in DS but already are so you are out of DS.

When I tried that trait I was so annoyed by it xD

I don’t get why people complain about this trait interrupting their heals and catching them off guard when they were going to shroud a second later. It activates at 0 hp so the alternative would be none of your actions going through anyways as you lie on the ground.

On topic, could the people seeing this issue tell us if you’re running spiteful spirit or weakening shroud? It sounds like it could be a problem with the cast a skill on entry traits.