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Posted by: Knyx.5926

Knyx.5926

SO was in wvwvw the other day and (this has never happened to me before and all I do is wvwvw). It happened again and again, I jumped into the enemy group as mine was charging so to speak, popped stability and a necro feared me. Last I checked stability protected against fear and it was up on my bar but disappeared the exact second I was feared even though it had quite a bit of it’s duration left. It almost happened like clockwork multiple times as soon as I popped it so it was probably the same necro or on voice comms.

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Posted by: Swadow.6213

Swadow.6213

No, he just used Corrupt Boon or you were inside Well of Corruption. Stability corrupts into Fear

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Posted by: Knyx.5926

Knyx.5926

Ahh, thanks for that.

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Posted by: Andele.1306

Andele.1306

a) as said Corrupt Boon truns Stability into Fear
b) either way Fear is both CC and Condition thus ignores stability and defiant but can be purged with stun breaks

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Posted by: Swadow.6213

Swadow.6213

@Andele point b) is wrong. Fear does not go through Stability, it needs to be removed before Fear can be applied first.

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Posted by: Andele.1306

Andele.1306

Swadow.6213 – test it it goes trough stability/iterrupts spells, only thing stability secures is that you dont lose full controll of your character.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Control_effect

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Posted by: Berullos.6928

Berullos.6928

Swadow.6213 – test it it goes trough stability/iterrupts spells, only thing stability secures is that you dont lose full controll of your character.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Control_effect

That is kitten. So Staff 5 is basically the best at saving others from getting stomped.

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Posted by: urtv.8791

urtv.8791

that page seems wrong.i used lich form against tequatl all the time and it protects me against its fear

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Posted by: Dibrom.6408

Dibrom.6408

Defiant is hit or miss with Fear. Sometimes it’ll work sometimes not.

(A bug, no way!)

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Posted by: Andele.1306

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urtv.8791 – big difference, channeled fears will get broken by stability, also try in pvp or on a enemy boss in dungeons, fear will apply no matter what and if the enemy doesnt have defiant stacks even actually make the boss run away, but will always interrupt (that is kidna a reply to you too Dibrom.6408 on how it works with defiant).

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Posted by: Knyx.5926

Knyx.5926

Yea, it does seem silly though because you would expect Stability to be one of the end all be all protection against CC, probably harder to get with less uptime, but the fact it can be turned in a form of CC seems kind of silly to me. Now I am not trying to start a flame war because I understand your class is bugged to high heaven, its just seems like a strange mechanic and promotes perma CC. Even if they had to make stability hard to get, which some classes only have like 1 ability that grants stability, it should be turned into an effect, that way uneffected by boon stripping/corrupting.

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Posted by: Andele.1306

Andele.1306

Well, it is a thing that necros have for them, utility and 4 “unique” effects, Boon conversion, Death Shroud, fear and Epidemic condition spread.

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Posted by: Swadow.6213

Swadow.6213

@Andele I have tested Fear multiple times on players with Stability on them and them doing one of thier Spins/Channels etc. and it has not affected them.

@Knyx the only reason Stability is balanced is because it can be removed/corrupted. If Stability could not be removed/corrupted warriors and guardians would be even more overpowered than they currently are, there would be no way to stop them from using their combos while in Stability.

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Posted by: Andele.1306

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Swadow.6213 then you a) timed it wrong b) used it on a enemy whos skill wasnt a channel, but just having a longer cast time, fear doesnt stop casting, just blocks a channel (either way, you can see fear on the condition bar no matter what unless the enemy cannot take damage or under evade or invulnerability) since interrupting a cast would be considered taking away the control of a player and thus protected with stability.

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Posted by: Swadow.6213

Swadow.6213

I have used it on Thiefs using Dagger Storm, everytime I would do it without using Focus #5 to remove Stability they would just continue spinning. Same with Warriors doing Dolyak Signet/Balanced Stance → Whirling Axe. Stability protects against Fear just swell. Defiant Stacks on NPCs also protect against it.

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Posted by: Knyx.5926

Knyx.5926

@Swadow

I understand exactly what you mean, but inherently that shouts to me that Warriors and Guardians have far too much access to stability then and that should be corrected. If it is balanced around a class having high access to it, the classes with low and minimal access to it get screwed.

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Posted by: Arvid.3829

Arvid.3829

Defiant Stacks on NPCs also protect against it.

I noticed this only a few days ago and have successfully applied it to multiple bosses since then: defiant does not protect against fear and fear also doesn’t remove stacks of defiant. This actually completely changed my look on fear…

For what it matters, this was in low level areas (1-35) in group events with 3 people or less and with the Master of Terror trait. There might be some other (unmentioned) effect that protects against fear though as, as far as I remember, I was unable to fear Ralena or Vassar (the lovers) in AC, although they don’t even have Defiant or Unshakable.

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Posted by: Hackuuna.4085

Hackuuna.4085

Yup, stability stops fear. As mentioned above if you try to fear a thief in daggerstorm while they still have stability your fear will do nothing. I have done this many times in WvW on accident (because I click people I see channeling and quickly do a fear to interrupt) and have never stopped a target who had stability. Never. The times I have done so were when I used corrupt boon which turned the stability into a fear.

Defiance stacks do not stop fear but some bosses are inherently immune to fear which may be a source of confusion.

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Posted by: Andele.1306

Andele.1306

Hackuuna.4085 – depends on the type of stability, short term utility skill ones (armor of earth and such) and bosses with stability can and will get feared (Golems in SE story mode, helps a lot on golem 2 since its also a cc thus cannot be eaten by the flame golem and stops his channel). I stopped players in wvwvw multiple times with reapers mark from stomping with stability on thus as said it must be either a channel or the pre cast taunt on bosses to stop anything with fear.

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