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Posted by: Urukami.4796

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Yo! Kami here! It’s been a while since I’ve posted anything but since the new patch has come out I’m here to share the condi builds i have created (some are still being tested).
Just to let you know most of the builds i’m going to show are heavily countered by diamond skin elementalist. I’ll be releasing a video about this at some point, i’ll leave the power builds to Hollts as I usually don’t really play power/hybrid necro.

WvW build:

First of all my Signet Corruption Build (Offensive build) -
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-30;3kHFC0143JkJ0;9;467A;0136156148;4a-1GU-V8bUytbUytq-kC4-eiMJhUvk9nep9seu9x9DFWFc1g;57-5N7-51;9;9;9;9;7V6s5i

Heavy condi burst/boon converter. I do use perplexity (confusion) as it is an additional condition damage and it is strong however you may replace this with nightmare runes or rune of the undead or traveler. (Matter of preference).
War-horn synergies with perplexity for the interrupts and also the war-horn 5 can get rid of blinds, cripples foes and gives you life force as it hits foes and let’s not forget swiftness.
P.S condi transfer is strong (imo) with plague signet against other condition builds.

2nd build. I call it Terror Magic (Defensive build) -
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-30;3kHFC0C4gJkJ0;9;487A;0247156148;4a-1GU-V8NX8aNX8aq-kC4-eiEIhUvk9nep9seu9x9D-WFc1g;57-5N7-51;9;9;9;9;7V6s5n

Heavy condi and can take a lot of damage. This one i specifically use undead which will increase condi damage approximately 2119 (no corruption stacks) and it can tank a lot of damage allowing you to be able to do 1vX (although 3-4 thieves will steal eat you alive in about 20-30 sec).

You can use FiTG rather than dhuumfire for the stability and stun-breaker. (The soul-reaping grandmaster is usually a preference; this also applies to my offensive build as well)

PVP build:
In terms of amulets you may use carrion however for me i have a preference of using rabid as i have more survivability.

Signet Corruption Build (my pvp version(offensive build))
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-3_-34;0kHFF014gJ-K0;9;467A;0136156148;4U-m68;1hoHAhoHA2g

I’d rather take spectral walk/wurm/EPICdemic over corrupt boon as corrupt boon can be a situational utility (it’s a matter of personal preference as well).

Terror Magic (or the new TerrorMancer) (pvp version (defensive build))
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-3_-34;0kHFC0x3gJ-K0;9;487A;0247156146;4U-m68;1hoHAhoHA2O

utility wise you may change wurm or spectral walk for spectral wall or not. The beauty of this build is the survivability when people tend to focus you! Just remember to position yourself well and don’t forget your main stunbreakers which is going to deathshroud, wurm and spectral walk . You may change corrupt boon if you feel like you may not need it to epicdemic (condi spread) or signet of spite or spectral wall.

currently an experiment build (Condi Necro Support)
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-3_-34;0kHFC0x3gJ-K0;9;497A;0058157146;4U-m68;1l6Uwl6Uw9d

no comments about it yet.

Hope you guys like my builds and have fun! PS I think condi in wvw and pvp has the potential to become lethal again however don’t quote me on that as we never know what may occur.

Leave comments/questions about the builds and i’ll reply as soon as i can!

Server: Seafarer’s Rest [EU]
Main Professions: Necromancer & Revenant
Youtube Channel: http://youtube.com/MrUrukami

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Posted by: vibeagra.9501

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why do you take dhuumfire over FiTG?

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why do you take dhuumfire over FiTG?

umm tbh it’s a matter of preference!! play how you want to play! I use dhuumfire due to the synergy with reaper’s might in the spite traitline plus with burning stack i believe dhuumfire went from ehh to ohhhh. but there are times when you just have to use FiTG for that 10sec stunbreak and 3 sec stability.

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Posted by: Lynnie.7213

Lynnie.7213

hey mate, cool post. How is your builds working so far? Mine is giving a lil bit headache. The meat is too strong.

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hey mate, cool post. How is your builds working so far? Mine is giving a lil bit headache. The meat is too strong.

Link me your build and i’ll review it. (PS i prefer looking at condi builds x) cause i don’t really play power although i will still look at it)

In the current moment my build is really strong it has survivability and condi damage output to pressure the opponent and on certain occasions I am able to condi burst someone and kill them within a matter of few seconds. I’m really happy with it!

I’ve also been playing around with a boon conversion build and that means sacrificing terror for dark path and sometimes I prefer it although it’ll take a “little bit” longer to kill someone.

WVW version
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-30;3kHFC0143JkJ0;9;467A;0146146148;4a-1GU-V8bUytbUytq-kC4-eiMJhUvk9nep9seu9x9DFWFc1g;57-5N7-51;9;9;9;9;7V6s5i

PVP version
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-3_-34;0kHFF014JI-K0;9;467A;0146146148;4U-m68;1hoHAhoHA2K

The good thing about this though is that you can provide constant condi pressure using utilities and DS so long as you can hit dark path (timing and etc) you’ll convert 2 boons every 12 seconds! along with spite and plague that’s another 4 (plague signet for me is more for a stunbreaker as i don’t use FiTG ( i use dhuumfire)) and corrupt boon (5) and the trait plague sending (that’s another 2 boon converted). It’s a build that’s good against engi, guardian and also ele (so long as they don’t use diamond skin).

You can use rendering shroud for chill of death however at the current moment i’m liking rendering shroud as it applies vulnerability which means increase condition damage on the opponent! I use dhuumfire! as burning is another condition although it is a weaker choice than FiTG however I see potential to this trait as another constant pressure to your opponent as you’ll constantly apply burning (although it’s weak in comparison to other classes) with your life blast and i’m used to not needing FiTG….

yeah the meat cleavers are strong(zerker builds) however condition necros position isn’t that bad although we’re not the best condi class (although imo we should be in comparison to others…) we’re good at manipulating conditions.

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Main Professions: Necromancer & Revenant
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oh and be very!!!! careful with plague signet as I once took a burning tick that was applied to someone (cough cough…Zodin….) and it killed me in 3-4 seconds cause it did a total of around 17.3-18.2K of my health in one go. (Yeah it was a hybrid condi guardian that applied that burn..)

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oh and be very!!!! careful with plague signet as I once took a burning tick that was applied to someone (cough cough…Zodin….) and it killed me in 3-4 seconds cause it did a total of around 17.3-18.2K of my health in one go. (Yeah it was a hybrid condi guardian that applied that burn..)

Yeah guardians burn are op, now.
I just saw one of your builds and its what i am using, but i use perplexity and warhorn instead. With plague signet in place of spectral wall.

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-30;3kHFC0C4gJkJ0;9;487A;0247156148;4a-1GU-V8NX8aNX8aq-kC4-eiEIhUvk9nep9seu9x9D-WFc1g;57-5N7-51;9;9;9;9;7V6s5n

I feel like 3200 toughness with corrupter’s fervor means nothing, i still get 2 shotted. And other condi classes are just too strong compared to us, like mesmers applying nearly to 20 confusion/torment stacks.

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Yeah guardians burn are op, now.
I just saw one of your builds and its what i am using, but i use perplexity and warhorn instead. With plague signet in place of spectral wall.

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-30;3kHFC0C4gJkJ0;9;487A;0247156148;4a-1GU-V8NX8aNX8aq-kC4-eiEIhUvk9nep9seu9x9D-WFc1g;57-5N7-51;9;9;9;9;7V6s5n

I feel like 3200 toughness with corrupter’s fervor means nothing, i still get 2 shotted. And other condi classes are just too strong compared to us, like mesmers applying nearly to 20 confusion/torment stacks.

The only change i made with this build is the putrid defense to shrouded removal since you can remove condi stacks on you when you enter DS and every 3 sec you are in DS. I’ve fought hybrid condi guardians/mesmer/engi who can stack a lot of burn and it can actually negate the burning ticks if you can’t transfer it.

With corrupter’s fervor it makes a big difference since it decrease direct damage and condi damage plus you get additional armor when it’s up. I can understand if a Zerk Mesmer can two shot you cause they are currently broken imo but other than that i don’t think people can two shot you just like that. You can survive direct damage for a long time to be able to kill them but don’t expect to come out easily if you’re up against 3 “really good” players at the same time and with necro as a class with one of the highest health pool we have a better chance against other condi class plus consume conditions even with the nerf. if it’s conditions like 20 stacks of confusion/torment stacks just make sure you pass it back! or don’t use any skills when you have confusion just go DS and kite them around as much as you can until it’s gone or you have the option to be able to pass it back.

Changed spectral wall to well of power for the condi to boon conversion (if condi builds apply chill on you that’s one of the best condi to convert since resistance causes all conditions currently on your character to be ineffective for its duration) Although spectral wall is still decent to use against melee. you can get rid of spectral walk/corrupt boon for plague signet.

my current defensive build:
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-30;3kHFC0F43JkJ0;9;487A;0147156148;4a-1GU-V8bUytbUytq-kC4-eiEIhUvk9nep9seu9x9D-WFc1g;57-5N7-51;9;9;9;9;7V6s5r
great against condition classes. (still suck against any ele build that runs diamond skin 95% lost unless you have enough power damage (using carrion increased your chance of winning I guess…) to take down the health to below 90%)

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Main Professions: Necromancer & Revenant
Youtube Channel: http://youtube.com/MrUrukami