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Posted by: Tadsoul.6951

Tadsoul.6951

Has anyone tried using this skill recently beside from popping and popping out?
Post your thoughts about lich form here

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Posted by: Muchacho.2390

Muchacho.2390

I used in in pve just for fun and it is still the same as it always was but i dont wanna use it in pvp. CttB, golem and plague seem to be more useful currently. CttB taking the lead ofc.

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Posted by: Tadsoul.6951

Tadsoul.6951

i was using it today even with the one stack of pulsing stability you are still easy to cc. The 4th skill is seems like your leaving yourself wide open or abandoning your team it take so long to cast
it is best used on a power focused necro(or reaper) I find I am mostly within 600 range of my target which makes a long range bomber elite cd seem out of place

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Posted by: Hesacon.8735

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It buys you some spike damage (hits about twice the damage as shroud for my build) in pve, but is suicidal in pvp or wvw because of so many reflections will leave you hitting yourself for 5-6k damage a pop.

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Posted by: Dadnir.5038

Dadnir.5038

My thought on lich form that are lingering since I create my necro 3 years and a half ago :
- clunky.
- slow.
- visually awfull.
- to short of a duration to learn what skill do what or if this skill is usefull.
- autoattack is staff on steroid (and I hate staff autoattack).

Ideally anet would do to lich form the same thing that they did to guardian’s tome and we would end up with a fine spectral elite skill that is not an horrible transformation.

No core profession should be balanced around an optional elite specialization.

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Posted by: mazut.4296

mazut.4296

It need revamp, no doubt about it.

First, the silly 1 stability is just lame. There are so many cc abilities that renders it almost useless. Need to be buffed to 2 stacks every 3sec.

Second, its obvious its meant to be all round elite skill. Having minions, marks, direct damage, condi/boon removal, cc and debuffing in it. But the result is more then bad.
Here are some suggestions, to actually go closer to this “useful in all builds” feeling.

Auto attack is actually one of the good skills… for power builds!!! … It need to be useful in condition builds as well!!!

Marked for Death: Worst and most useless skill of them all. Need to be changed completely. Or maybe put some of the condition viability here?!
Remove the vulnerability and put Torment(4stacks/8s.) or Bleed (6 stacks/12s.) and poison(3 stacks/6s). Also make the mark deal more damage, so its worth interrupting the auto attack spam.

Chilling Wind. Kind of ok, but it need to deal more damage again for power builds to be actually worth interrupting the auto attack spam.

Mark of Horror. This is still decent skill. But make it more useful in power builds. Maybe minion damage scales with power above some threshold(2000+ power?!?!)

Grim Specter, now this skill is actually good, but the projectile seems so slow. Its the old Deathly Swarm all over again. Need faster projectile.

PS: Now with the “new technology” where skills can be split between PvP and PvE, this can be done without making it broken.

(edited by mazut.4296)

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Posted by: Tadsoul.6951

Tadsoul.6951

chilling winds is one of the skill i actually get a good use out of.
I got lich chilling winds immediately for a nice knockback.
that being said it is still very meh

if they took our elite transform and do the same thing what they did for the gaurdian

Id want something like grim specter call it grenth’s balance
foes lose boons allies lose condition with some damage and healing or lifeforce gain

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Posted by: Lahmia.2193

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Get rid of forms all together. Turn it into a party buff skill similar to how they changed Guardian wrath tome into the shout “feel my wrath”.

Surrender and serve me in life, or die and slave for me in death.

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Posted by: Drarnor Kunoram.5180

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Id want something like grim specter call it grenth’s balance
foes lose boons allies lose condition with some damage and healing or lifeforce gain

Grim Specter on its own can definitely be viable as an Elite skill. Just make it a PBAoE that damages, removes all boons off enemies, and all conditions off allies. 600 range is good.

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Posted by: Lily.1935

Lily.1935

I suggested a long time ago to convert this skill into a shroud that you trigger for your elite spot as opposed to what it is now. Which would make it a more defensive elite which would help considering this elite can’t decide what it wasn’t to be. Personally though I feel that transformations are mostly just bad.

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Posted by: ZeftheWicked.3076

ZeftheWicked.3076

Get rid of forms all together. Turn it into a party buff skill similar to how they changed Guardian wrath tome into the shout “feel my wrath”.

Hell no, plague form is a godsend in spvp. Lich may suck, but plague is diamonds.

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Posted by: Hesacon.8735

Hesacon.8735

Get rid of forms all together. Turn it into a party buff skill similar to how they changed Guardian wrath tome into the shout “feel my wrath”.

Hell no, plague form is a godsend in spvp. Lich may suck, but plague is diamonds.

Same in wvw. The AoE weakness/cripple in a zerg fight is surprisingly good. Sure, you do no damage, but you soften the enemy up considerably for your teammates to knock out.

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Posted by: narcx.3570

narcx.3570

I use it’s pulsing stability for the ramps in cliffside fractal if my life-force isn’t high enough to use reaper.

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Posted by: Lahmia.2193

Lahmia.2193

I’m not saying remove Plague completely. Keep the aspects of tankiness and the stability, but change it so it is no longer a form. My comment was mainly towards Lich Form though. Currently it is used as a gimmick for Jagged Horrors and little else.

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