Life Siphon MM = OP in tPvP

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Posted by: vesta.3170

vesta.3170

This is my build that I have been running:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fQAQNAodWjEal6ta2a07JAJFRT90Du7GcIF5KNA-T0Ag0CmIuRdj7GzNybs3MAZxxRkpBvDA

Running this with a venom share thief kills quickly.

LIFE SIPHON

Vampiric Master – The life siphon on the minions hits harder than their basic attack. This is 110% increase in minion damage for half of the minions. The reason why it is higher now is because Life Siphon Damage now scales slightly with Power. I wear a berserker ammy, so i have a lot of power.

Vampiric – Dagger auto attack now heals for 200-300 per second. That is another regen almost.

Life Siphon (dagger #2) – This heals me for at least 2.5k every 12 seconds. It also does 4-5K dmg to the target.

Transfusion – Heals minions and allies for 4K with low healing power.

CCs

Chill – Mark #3, Focus #5, DS #2, and when you switch to the dagger.

Immobilize – Dagger #3, Bone Fiend, DS #5. All of these can go off within 2 seconds of each other and last for 8 seconds.

Fear – Staff #5, DS #3. Great for preventing a stomp or enemy revive. If the target has stability, hit them with focus #5 to rip three boons.

Flesh Golem Charge – knock down and multi target.

Damage and lots of it

Minions – I feel like I am cheating to just sit back and watch minions do so much dps.

Dagger Auto Attack – This should be used 70%-80% of the time. It builds Life Force and does high dps. Clothies drop to minions and dagger auto attack.

Life Transfer – This does 3-4K AOE damage and heals your team. Use it as much as you can, or save it for when you bunker guardian is on cooldown. Also use it to keep your minions alive.

Mark #4 – Always crits because of the sigil. Crits for 3K AOE, and it is my 3rd blast finisher.

Final Thoughts

I usually play a power necro, so this MM build is power based. I have not tried condis with it because I go 20 points into the power tree to get the minion damage increase.

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Posted by: Bhawb.7408

Bhawb.7408

1. No minion gets double damage from siphoning, so already I have a hard time believing what you say from here on.
2. Vampiric isn’t 200-300 per second, its at most what, 50 per hit? Maybe 100 per second with dagger auto?
3. Not denying this, but how is your “real” damage being double what the skill normally does?
4. Sigil of intelligence makes no sense to me.
5. If you are “just sit back and watch minions do so much dps.” you aren’t using them right
6. If you just dagger auto with minions you shouldn’t be using minions. Wells is for you.

Not saying this build is bad, but I’m going to shoot down anything that is blatantly false about minions before it gains steam. It looks like an okay build, but you are working off some wrong premises, and you could really maximize the potential of this build if you made a number of trait/rune/sigil/amulet/skill choice differences.

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Posted by: KlausKNT.9302

KlausKNT.9302

In my opinion this is not good build on tpvp.
Minions do dps only to pve players who stand in place and press butons (ofc it will work on those holiday pvper).
Its easy to kitten them – so they do no dps.
My Mesmer kill those “OP Necros” before they will ewen know with one is real.
End of topic.

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Posted by: Lopez.7369

Lopez.7369

No.

/15characters

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Posted by: jalmari.3906

jalmari.3906

Mmm no.

Not this build at least.

:P

Guardian 80 Necromancer 80 Ranger 80 Mesmer 80 Elementalist 80 Warrior 80

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Posted by: vesta.3170

vesta.3170

2. Vampiric isn’t 200-300 per second, its at most what, 50 per hit? Maybe 100 per second with dagger auto?

Um dagger auto attack hits 4 times per second. That is 200 HP per second.

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Posted by: Avigrus.2871

Avigrus.2871

2. Vampiric isn’t 200-300 per second, its at most what, 50 per hit? Maybe 100 per second with dagger auto?

Um dagger auto attack hits 4 times per second. That is 200 HP per second.

Pretty sure it doesn’t…. maybe 2 times per second, not 4.

80 Necro (5), 80 Guard (4), 80 Mesmer (3)
80 Ranger (3), 80 Warrior (3), 80 Thief (3)
80 Ele (2), 80 Engi (3), 80 Rev (2)

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Posted by: vesta.3170

vesta.3170

In my opinion this is not good build on tpvp.
My Mesmer kill those “OP Necros” before they will ewen know with one is real.
End of topic.

I would like to see that.

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Posted by: Bhawb.7408

Bhawb.7408

Um dagger auto attack hits 4 times per second. That is 200 HP per second.

The entire dagger sequence of 4 attacks takes about 2 seconds.

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Posted by: KlausKNT.9302

KlausKNT.9302

Vesta pm me in game i will show You my MM build .
Then i will relog to my Mesmer, show you and explain all weaknesses of this “tpvp OP Necro build”
It will be fun i promise

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Posted by: Loco.4561

Loco.4561

This is more or less the exact same build I use in tPvP, it was NOT op pre-patch and it’s NOT op post patch. Stop spreading hyperbole and making false statements like this, I’m glad aNet don’t actually read our forums, the last thing we need is a dev thinking MM builds need toning down when they do not.

Oh and one more thing any player who knows how to play a condition class will rip you too shreds in that build, your one cleanse doesn’t even come close to enough cleansing to keep you alive against any mildly competent player.

Mashup Bootleg ~ WvW Mesmer
Cyrus Glitch – sPvP/tPvP Mesmer
Doctor Loki – sPvP/tPvP/WvW Power Necro

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Posted by: WereDragon.6083

WereDragon.6083

only thing a MM necro needs to watch out for is the moa hard counter. If they’re clone spam they’re squishy as hell or they’re never going to kill you.

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Posted by: rouzeki.1659

rouzeki.1659

Not sure about tPvP but this was pretty strong in hot joins pre-Mad Thorn patch. It is just OK now.