Guild Wars 2

I am curious to compare some of the other burst damages i have seen used against me in PvP

Pistol Whip – 10k
Heartseeker – 8k
Hundred Blades – 19k
Crossfire 8k

Nekro Dmg …

Life Blast – 1k
Dagger auto attack 2.5k on crit with power build.

I was never hit for that much. ~5k was the max but my condition necro has almost 2k thoughness and I use a stun breaker to not get caught in the combo.

Stun breaker breaks the stun, but doesn’t stop the incoming damage.

for example warrior bull charges you. You get stunned.

You use your stun breaker. His next move still hits you for 10k+. That’s 50% of my life gone in 2 seconds.

If you post something like this you should add your Toughness!

I have a low toughness build and i also get hit quite hard sometimes…but if your build suqishy (your toughness is below 1000 i guess) then you have to be aware of Warriors and Thiefs and use Stun Breaker and DS and Dodge to avoid those burst….

EDIT: @JYC ….after stunbreak you instant dodge roll !

I admit its heart to aviod Heartseeker spam

Well the problem with toughness is that i have two wasted traits in jagged horror and protection of the horde as i don’t want to play minions.

EDIT.

another issue with stun break + dodge + DS is that you need at least 50% endurance and at least 10% life force.

Nekro Stun breakers have around 1min CD, which means that if you survive the first combo, your skills are still on CD for the next combo.

I am also wondering what kind of maximum burst dmg a Nekro can do. I have been trying to test out the damage output, it seeks 3k on 3 attacks (with dual dagger) max power + crit dmg is the most i can do.

JYC.5026:

Stun breaker breaks the stun, but doesn’t stop the incoming damage.

for example warrior bull charges you. You get stunned.

You use your stun breaker. His next move still hits you for 10k+. That’s 50% of my life gone in 2 seconds.

nope he does not.
1. I will dodge the charge
2. when I miss the dodge I use the breaker and just dodge afterwards

zero damage received.

@ JYC

Two options:
1)Get toughness by amulet…sure you lose offensive stats
2) Trait for REAPERS PROTECTION and Bullscharge und Pistolwhip is not a problem anymore !

Its Necro… no K in there

I guess he is german: Necromancer = Nekromant

stun break —> dodge

or

DS —> Doom (yes you can cast doom while stunned)

I attacked a what appeared to be a afk warrior the other day in wvw, By the time i managed to get his health down to 70% he got back and completely destroyed me in seconds with Hundred Blades.

/suckedman

A defensive specced warrior smacked me with a 6.5k eviscerate. Doesn’t sound great but if you consider it was a survival spec…oh well.

Surprise, surprise that our minions die in seconds.

Wasn’t the game advertised that the burst would be controlled…if your stun breaker is on cd you are dead versus some classes.

Also, I think death shroud isn’t all that great. I often cannot use it when I need it most…and I am really not wasting life force. Anyway, lately the melees seem to beeline lately for elementalists and necros.

Pistol Whip – 10k
Heartseeker – 8k
Hundred Blades – 19k
Crossfire 8k

Pistol whip Spam hits for about that not including crit. Not just 1 pistol whip.
Heartseeker hits for 6.7 k the fist 1-2 hits As crit.
100 Blades full channel multiplier hits for about 16-19k
Corssfire is 10-14k in an overall whole buff duration.

Necros dont have instagibs. But what we do have is the use of our spells properly to stop this.
IE. warrior pops signet of rage. Spinal shiver… Elite gone.
IE. Ranger pops beast within… " "
IE we have no said “burst” unless spec’d power, As conditionmancer your job is to be out side the fight/assisting team. Not in said fight so you can get gibd.

SimVanLee.3421:

I guess he is german: Necromancer = Nekromant

A-net, how come you didnt still use Necromancer or the real german version Totenbeschwörer (summoner of the dead), but you had make akittenword (never noticed, played since Factions release…

Pistol Whip 21k in PVP.
i just died while i use life siphon. necromancer is a sandbag.

Why would you life siphon against a daze spell?
No rolling? No ds insta fear? to atleast something Chill/cripple to keep him off you?
Sounds like you just took it like a man :P
Rub some dirt in it

plus. necrotic grasp 23k damage in pvp.

Hundred Blades doesn’t hit for 19k unless the warrior is stacking serious crit chance/crit damage and has might on him/vulnerability on you. It also roots him, and if he Frenzies to get it off faster, enjoy the free +50% damage for 6-8 seconds, depending on traits.

Glass cannon warriors are easy to dodge and easy to kill. I can’t stand playing one, myself.

A 6.5k Eviscerate as a defensive warrior is flat out wrong, my Eviscerate crits hit for ~3.5k-4k geared, gemmed, and specced fully offensively, even with buffs up. Playing a more balanced build like I usually do (30 Defense/20 Arms/20 Discipline) with Hammer/ Axe+Shield, I can get on average 10 stacks of might on myself, and only hit for around 3k on the Eviscerate.

I have no advice to give you on avoiding Thief lolspam, but HS got nerfed, so that might help a little. Still doesn’t alleviate Pistol Whip, though (I get hit for ~9k through heavy armor and 3.4k toughness with that -.-).

If you’re going to post facts, at least post correct ones.

forice.3165:

plus. necrotic grasp 23k damage in pvp.

That damage was done in 17 auto attacks that you ate one after another.

Proof:
https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/6737/gw161.jpg

This post is about “Burst” damage, (2-3 hits max).

So please, next time, post meaningful information related to the thread at hand.

Another question i have is regarding tanking the common bursts from other classes as a Necro.

Is it better to tank through Toughness or Vitality.

It seems that the Toughness Trait for Necro is really awful. Two wasted Minor Traits, and not many defence enhancing skills.

Blood Magic trait line in theory is much more effective. However the broken Life Steal Skills really bug me. Life Siphon and Life Transfer deal dmg but appears to steal very low amount of HP even when traited.

Also, in order to break stun and remove boon, Necro has to take certain skill sets

For utilities you will need one stun break (plague sig, spec armour or spec walk) which all have a minute CD. A boon removal skill such as corrupt boon (which is full of bugs) or Shivers from Focus.

Taking these skill really limits your build.