Guild Wars 2

New necro player here, just want to know if mm build is still viable

No it’s completely useless and broken, don’t bother.

I don’t think it has ever been viable. Minion AI has been broken since release, and still is.

I would say it depends on who you’re facing. As a phantasm mesmer, MM builds used to eat me alive. I could never get them down and they would simply attrition me.

Now I play a well necro. Between damaging wells, marks, and DS AoE skills, the other guy’s minions are gone within the first 10 seconds of the fight and they now essentially have to play without a utility bar.

So if you like MMs, make sure that you avoid mid fights if it’s a mess, and classes that have a lot of AoE.

Viable, yes, pretty much everything is viable in this game (viable in the sense of “you can make it work”).

But is it a solid build choice? Nope, apart from open world PvE and casual PvP, I don´t think so.

I play a MM build in pvp. It generally takes a minimum of three people or a staff ele to kill me.

So, yeah, it’s viable. Is it good, or amazing? No, not really. but it’s hella fun and can provide a nice distraction for teammates to take other points. I wouldn’t use it in a pve environment though, dungeon or no.

In PvP it is absolutely solid. People will nay say because it has issues, and it does, but guess what mate you play Necro get used to issues its not like swapping to power suddenly puts you on a bugless amazing build with no weird stuff.

And can 1 shot fire guardians.. unless they nerfed that.

Akrasia.5469:

And can 1 shot fire guardians.. unless they nerfed that.

Calling it a one shot is a bit over the top. They can like 10 shot fire guardians since that’s how many actual attacks happen to the guardian.

My feeling is that build-wise, MM has been buffed nicely. So if the question is “still viable” I guess the answer may be “more than before although not optimal still”. My gf uses MM and that’s thanks to this build I manage to make her play (and enjoy) the game. It is an easy build to start with, you don’t worry too much about utilities and focus on 1-5. Then once you start playing better, get more familiar with your weapon skills etc… you can try more build variations and see what you prefer.

Simple coy answer? It’s more viable than before.

All they need to do is make all minons ranged and that will make them proper viable again. Blood fiend and Bone Fiend never bug for me, only the ones with melee.

Lahmia.2193:

All they need to do is make all minons ranged and that will make them proper viable again. Blood fiend and Bone Fiend never bug for me, only the ones with melee.

Thankfully, this problem should reasonably be fixed with the introduction of the new AI routines they’re adding in HoT

AI is kitten garbage to say the least.

The AI is a bit wonky, but yeah it’s completely viable. I run full soldier on my MM necro and it’s an absolute blast. Sure some people destroy me and others it takes 3 people to take me down, but I can’t expect to win each and every fight as some people are just better than me.

MM build is quite average even they buff it in the recent patch. The main issue of this build is you heavily depend on your summon. Once your summon is destory you lost the additional buff your pet provide you.

let me list down the pros and cons of this build:
Pros
1. For new nerco user MM build is good cause its basically a no brain build
2. Your pet will eat up all your condition and return it to whoever its attacking
3. your pet give you additional toughness

Cons
1. once your pet is killed you will lose all the bonus it provide
2. bad against class that is aoe heay
3. AI of pet is bad most of the best they are doing nothing
4. If you intend to do a bunker build MM would not be a prefer class cause your pet will get destory by the heavy AOE

you might want to try Celestial build or vampire well healing bunker build for advance nero player

I really hope they fix minion (and other pet) AI at some point. Because that’s the main thing that’s keeping MM builds from being enjoying for most people. (It’s mostly the buggy AI that annoys people).

Other than that MM has it’s strengths and it’s weaknesses. I feel it would be fairly balanced if they would fix the AI.
It would probably counter heavy single target builds (conditions or power), because as necro you can build very tanky and let the minions do the work. But be weak to AoE and would lack burst. (Tanky attrition gameplay)