Guild Wars 2

I’m running a cleric amulet MM build and i’m deciding between those two traits.
vampiric presence grants me 40 health anytime i attack, same for 5 allies (which would be my minions most of the time).
However, life from death would heal 2810 whenever i exit out of death shroud.

To match the same amount of healing me and 4 more minions need to attack 70.25 times each.
However, with my build i stay in shroud mode most of the time, switching out only when 1v5’ing (heeh) or when i have to resummon minions.
Having each minion healing itself a little more means i don’t have to exit shroud to heal them, however by the time a single minion attacked 70 times (assuming it didn’t die in the process, which is not feasible) i would’ve switched in and out of death shroud already.
Plus the 2.8k healing burst is more effective for when i need to quickly clear condis as it may give me the time needed to cast putrid mark.

So the question is: do you believe that 37 bonus damage off of every hit is worth the loss of healing?

NeXeD.3042:

It might be worth it on a cleric mm, but that is literally the only build I can see it being really useful on since your making the most out of the healing by always have allies around you, I think it might be worth it on a strictly healing cleric mm.

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Healing of life from death with cleric : 2810, affects 5 targets
Healing of life from death with soldier: 1010
Healing from vampiric presence with cleric : 40, affects you and 5 extra targets
Healing from vampiric presence with soldier: 34
Damage from vampiric presence with cleric : 37
Damage from vampiric presence with soldier: 38
Required number of hits to match the same healing
Cleric : 2810/40 = 70.25
Soldier: 1010/34 = 29.7
Extra damage when the same healing is achieved (on one affected target):
Soldier 29.7 hits = 38*29.7 = 1128.6
Cleric 70.25 hits = 37*70.25 = 2599.25
Cleric 29.7 hits = 37*29.7 = 1098.9

Life for death really isn’t that great…. even on clerics….. most people who think it’s good go with the omfg it’s a 3k heal every 7 seconds!

Yeah…. but it’s not…. it’s a 3k heal everytime you exit ds…. but that will not be 7 seconds or even 10 seconds unless and that heal will not be there when you need it most…. you’ll probably burn it when your still at full health and then get spiked before you can even use it again

NeXeD.3042:

Life for death really isn’t that great…. even on clerics….. most people who think it’s good go with the omfg it’s a 3k heal every 7 seconds!

Yeah…. but it’s not…. it’s a 3k heal everytime you exit ds…. but that will not be 7 seconds or even 10 seconds unless and that heal will not be there when you need it most…. you’ll probably burn it when your still at full health and then get spiked before you can even use it again

However, i’m focusing on being a tank and i haven’t made the assumption of triggering it every 7 seconds!
To reach the same amount of healing I need to hit 70.25 times, which when i actually achieve that goal my minions will have attacked far less.

So really, it IS a loss in terms of healing when using cleric, however, is it good enough to choose it for the damage?

I’ve tried letting my blood fiend kill all 3 golems 2 times each, he only healed about 20-25% hp >.>

It might be worth it on a cleric mm, but that is literally the only build I can see it being really useful on since your making the most out of the healing by always have allies around you, I think it might be worth it on a strictly healing cleric mm.

It has a pretty decent scaling from healing power and the fact that it is an AoE heal makes it better for MM builds I’d say.