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Posted by: Oozo.7856

Oozo.7856

Hello,

http://youtu.be/dOlEsL2UBIA?hd=1

This is a short entertainment style video inspired by its song.

I personally don’t think that power necros are “that” underpowered. Against good players, I win some and I lose some with most of the fights being fairly close. I concede that we do underperform when compared to certain other burst DPS classes but IMO it’s because they are overperforming not because we are horribly underperforming.

The difference between starting a fight with no life force and full life force is pretty dramatic. I think they need to normalize how much life force we start with when we are out of combat. I absolutely hate having to go kill a few animals in WvW to max my lifeforce out just so I stand a chance against some of the ridiculous burst that exists in the game at the moment. And, of course, there are many bugs to be fixed.

On the shroudstomps and shroudrevives. All you have to do is hit DS and your stomp keybind at the same time. It’s the same thing as doing a jump dodge roll. I have 3 seconds of stability when entering DS which covers most (but not quite all of the stomp). Being in DS while reviving is huge since it absorbs INC damage (and we know how much people love focusing revivers).

I was hesistant to put this in the movie, because I’m afraid that Arenanet will look at it and nerf it. I hope they don’t since many other classes can use mechanics that help secure stomps and revives as well. Please let us keep this, Arenanet. Please.

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Posted by: Swadow.6213

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I really think Necros should be able to do stomp and revive while in DS especially considering we have no access to Stability otherwise and even then it requires 30 in SR.

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Posted by: Oozo.7856

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You would still be able to use stability to stomp by selfcancelling DS. However, that costs you some uptime on the stability while stomping. And even though it would be a fraction of a second that could make all of the difference in the world.

As is, with the shroudstomp the stability wears off shortly after the top of the stomp animation as you are coming down.

They would probably be more concerned with being in DS while reviving someone. You can take a good bit of punishment while reviving if you are full lifeforce. Of course, they should be able to knock you off of a revive since you only have the first 3 seconds of stability protection.

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Posted by: Chronologist.9782

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They should just change deathshroud so you can stomp/revive with it on lmao

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Posted by: Kirz.2634

Kirz.2634

Fun video, thanks for posting!

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Posted by: SpencerForHire.1046

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I’ve been wanting to try something like this for a while, what stats do you itemize for besides power? Do your run Crit/Crit damage or anything along those lines?

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Posted by: ReMortis.4287

ReMortis.4287

They should just change deathshroud so you can stomp/revive with it on lmao

Considering Ele’s can stomp while in mist form, I agree.

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Posted by: icomeinpeace.1467

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Why doesn’t it surprise me that one of the best tips for me ever comes from you oozo? Loved your beta vids and love this one so much, I want to marry it and have children.

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Posted by: Oozo.7856

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I’ve been wanting to try something like this for a while, what stats do you itemize for besides power? Do your run Crit/Crit damage or anything along those lines?

Since it’s WvW, I can customize my stats a bit. I’m using a mixture of power/precision/toughness and power/vitality/crit gear.

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Why doesn’t it surprise me that one of the best tips for me ever comes from you oozo? Loved your beta vids and love this one so much, I want to marry it and have children.

Thanks. :P

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Posted by: VictorTroska.3725

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Great video Oozo, thank you.

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Posted by: Proven.2854

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Ok, I asked about the shroud stomping but I see that you did address it. Good video. I tried a build like this myself but it wasn’t working as well for me. Might have been because of main hand dagger instead of Axe? I was playing around with some other traits too.

I’ll probably end up putting 30 in Blood Magic or Spite though.

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Posted by: Thor Rising.7850

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Not sure why you run Plague over Lich Form when you are using a power build, Lich Form hits like a truck in power builds

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Posted by: Oozo.7856

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This is WvW. Unfortunately, turning into a giant lich will get you focused and killed. Plague is much better for WvW since you can use it to tank focus.

My role in WvW is breaking lines with death shroud and plague form.

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Posted by: Noerknhar.3826

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Very nice video that is bringing up some questions:

what’s your spec? I suppose 30/10/0/0/30? Are you using the 20%-axe-trait?
I was thinking about 20/20/0/0/30 to have wells being ground targeted for WvW. Bad thing is that this makes an axe as mainhand pretty useless. Was thinking about using a dagger instead. What do you think?

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Posted by: Zaroua.2714

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I watched the movie before reading the post and I thought that it was some sort of joke/parody thing. You’re using slow-motion, you’re zooming in and you’re fighting scrubs. But then I realized you’re being serious. So I’ll be constructive and try to help you out in case you decide to make more movies in the future: you know those things I just listed? well they don’t belong in good PvP videos.

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Posted by: Oozo.7856

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So I’ll be constructive and try to help you out in case you decide to make more movies in the future: you know those things I just listed? well they don’t belong in good PvP videos.

Based upon your own self-important troll opinion. Sure.

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Posted by: Oozo.7856

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what’s your spec? I suppose 30/10/0/0/30? Are you using the 20%-axe-trait?
I was thinking about 20/20/0/0/30 to have wells being ground targeted for WvW. Bad thing is that this makes an axe as mainhand pretty useless. Was thinking about using a dagger instead. What do you think?

30/10/0/0/30, yes. I took trait to give 20% extra damage when target is under 50% health since I cycle through axe, staff, and DS.

IMO, it’s too easy to kite dagger.

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Posted by: syndromx.1063

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I am trying similar build like you. However i cant decide what runes to socket. May you tell me what runes you are running OOzo? I am running gems (power/prec/tough) right now, but i am not sure if it is good choice…

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I am trying similar build like you. However i cant decide what runes to socket. May you tell me what runes you are running OOzo? I am running gems (power/prec/tough) right now, but i am not sure if it is good choice…

I’m using mostly emerald orbs at the moment (power/prec/tough). However, I sometimes question the value of toughness when encountering full glass cannon burst builds.

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Posted by: Sebyos.4089

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Wait this video is not good.

First we see pathetic mark damage then we see how horrible necros are when they fight each other forever.

Then the video shows 2 bad fights agaisnt thieves. The second is actually funny showing how you need an elite to beat a thief, but really on equal footing, the thief would have used thieves guild and stomped that necro.

Then we see a couple of life transfer and I love how he slows down the ones with Fury then 25 stacks of might given by his allies without slowing down the other weak transfers for 3-4k he did earlier without boons like the 4k one against a light armored Ele.

The only good thing in this video does is confirming what we know already. The problem is that we received ok survival with DS, but to compensate we were given less damage.

Also, even if you manage to do something decent with the axe or the dagger you still run with a major AoE problem which you can’t compensate with a staff that hits like a wet noodle then becomes useless once our CDs are up.

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Posted by: Oozo.7856

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Heh. WTF is it with people. I said the movie was an entertainment style movie, hence parts are slowed down or sped up to synch with changes and/or lyrics in the song.

The might was from the Siphoned Power trait while getting hit by 5+ players. Putrid mark can crit for 3-4K at times. That is not horrible.

You seem to be threatened by this movie because you clearly want necros to be buffed. I really don’t think there is anything here that says they shouldn’t be.

The power builds underperform when compared to other DPS power builds, however I don’t think necros are nearly as bad off as some would make them out to be.

DS survivability alone is a very nice mechanic. However, thief survivability through stealth and mobility is better.

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Posted by: gamefreak.5673

gamefreak.5673

I thought it was a nice little video if that matters.

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Posted by: Natalie.7421

Natalie.7421

I like the song used in vid, can u tell me its full name and artist?

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Posted by: War Mourner.5168

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I have tried this before, and I can perform the stomp as I go into death shroud no problem, But I found that even though I would perform the animation, nothing would come of it. After seeing this I tried again with the same results, any ideas?

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Posted by: Oozo.7856

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I like the song used in vid, can u tell me its full name and artist?

Here is a link to the song: http://www.tweakerray.de/nineinchnailsremixes.html

It’s “Burn (Angel of Destruction Remix)”.

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I have tried this before, and I can perform the stomp as I go into death shroud no problem, But I found that even though I would perform the animation, nothing would come of it. After seeing this I tried again with the same results, any ideas?

I haven’t experienced this myself. I haven’t been able to PVP much the last week though, so there is always the possibility things have been tweaked.

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