Make Corrupt boon not poison on miss.

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Posted by: ronpierce.2760

ronpierce.2760

I’m starting to get frustrated with this move. I’m not sure if its common that it misses due to slight terrain differences, but I’m experiencing a lot of instances where it’ll point blank miss, people will walk through me and it’ll miss (because for an instant cast it still has a kitten animation time), the bazillion stealth/evades baked into basic attacks, etc. Okay, some of this may be my fault in bad timing/planning, but regardless, some of it just isn’t able to be predicted. I can swallow my pride on some of it being my fault.

However, it should work like Blood is Power and not poison us on miss/no target (someone stealths). Because when it does just bug out or a person just walks through you it is INFURATING to have a 40 sec cd utility gone, our best one that is really the only way we can win a lot of 1v1s, and on top of that we just poisoned ourselves.

The amount of times I’ve gone in for a corrupt boon and they blinding powder at the same time etc and I just ended up poisoning myself is outrageous. Please change it. 1v1 PVP is hard enough on Necros, we don’t need 30% less healing on ourselves for 8 seconds because the natural flow of some classes is so chaotic.

Things that cause you to Poison yourself on 40 second cooldown:
Terrain glitch,
Not firing correctly glitch,
Invulnerabilities,
The enemy walking through you.
The mass amount of evade spells on Thief/Ranger
Dodge roll and it’s accessibility via traits and Vigor for many classes
Stealth at the right time
Abilities that cause the person to “dance” around you. (though most of these cause evasion)
Teleports

When ALL of that doesn’t stop it, we can convert someone’s boons into conditions. And most of the classes who this effects the most will have them right back in about 6 seconds.

Thank you for letting me rant.

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Posted by: Rennoko.5731

Rennoko.5731

Just to be straight here, if you had them selected when they stealthed, and started the rather short mini-cast animation (with them still selected at the start of the cast), CB will hit them. CB also has no facing requirement, so if they walk through you, it still hits them. (recent patch change on that one).

Teleports also will only cause it to fail if they teleport out of range.

The random failings where there are no logical reasons for it to fail are annoying, but seem to just be part of how the skill works. Evades/invulns/dodges should prevent it, as otherwise it is uncounterable.

Epidemic I have different feelings on, as it is a skill which does nothing to a target but copy its debuffs to targets nearby, but that is a different discussion.

I never really cared that much about the self poison. It isn’t that long, and frankly, when it fails, I am dealing with a full buffs thief, a warrior/guardian with stability beating my face in, the last thing I care about is my self poison, as my heal goes through it anyhow.

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Posted by: ronpierce.2760

ronpierce.2760

Just to be straight here, if you had them selected when they stealthed, and started the rather short mini-cast animation (with them still selected at the start of the cast), CB will hit them. CB also has no facing requirement, so if they walk through you, it still hits them. (recent patch change on that one).

Teleports also will only cause it to fail if they teleport out of range.

The random failings where there are no logical reasons for it to fail are annoying, but seem to just be part of how the skill works. Evades/invulns/dodges should prevent it, as otherwise it is uncounterable.

Epidemic I have different feelings on, as it is a skill which does nothing to a target but copy its debuffs to targets nearby, but that is a different discussion.

I never really cared that much about the self poison. It isn’t that long, and frankly, when it fails, I am dealing with a full buffs thief, a warrior/guardian with stability beating my face in, the last thing I care about is my self poison, as my heal goes through it anyhow.

If what a lot of what you’re saying is true, it’s not always working as such in sPVP. I’m about to lose my mind over the amount of CB fails on non evading/dodging targets I’m getting. Also, not everyone runs or wants to run Consume conditions lol.

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Posted by: Rennoko.5731

Rennoko.5731

Not denying it doesn’t fail, and fail when you most want it to not fail (for no good reason). But I bet if you set out to make a video montage of it failing, it would take you longer than you expected, because under review you could come up with a good reason why it fails in a lot of occasions.

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Posted by: TyPin.9860

TyPin.9860

I want blood is power to bleed me every time and I am annoyed it doesn’t. So I welcome to poisen of Corrupt boons. Stacking conditions on your necromancer to transfer them on your target is one of the strongest weapons necromancers have. Actually I would welcome even more condtions on me. Like when u defend a tower in WvW, geting spammed with donditions and transferring them on your traget has made my day so often.

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Posted by: ronpierce.2760

ronpierce.2760

I can kind of see your point, but I feel like this more helps one spec rather than the overall necro class, unfortunately. :S

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Posted by: Pendragon.8735

Pendragon.8735

I think this is an oversight too that the poison procs on misses.

The self Posion lasts 9 seconds for me, it will do close to 2000 damage if running its course. Of course you would like to use a transfer there, almost have to, but sometimes its not an ideal time to blow a transfer or heal for one condition, or you simply don’t have one available and have to eat a lot of it.

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Posted by: ronpierce.2760

ronpierce.2760

I think this is an oversight too that the poison procs on misses.

The self Posion lasts 9 seconds for me, it will do close to 2000 damage if running its course. Of course you would like to use a transfer there, almost have to, but sometimes its not an ideal time to blow a transfer or heal for one condition, or you simply don’t have one available and have to eat a lot of it.

Or you don’t run that kind of build. CB is necessary in s/tPvP for almost any build you run. :/

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Posted by: Chesire.9043

Chesire.9043

From what I can tell, the only things that cause it to fail are dodges, blinds, and certain block skills regardless of it being unblockable. It can be cast while running away, and I thought this was the same for Plague Signet but that isn’t the case and will sometimes cause Plague to go on full CD if attempted to cast that way. Plague Signet also misses for all the reasons that CB does besides the target being behind you.

Makes me sad face.

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Posted by: Lord Kuru.3685

Lord Kuru.3685

I just don’t like the inconsistency between corrupt boon and blood is power. Either both should hit you with conditions always, or both should do nothing to you on miss.

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Posted by: Towelie.4637

Towelie.4637

We can only hope they will fix it soon… Because this utility rocks every bunkers ! ( And a miss can do the difference between die and survive )

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Posted by: displacedTitan.6897

displacedTitan.6897

Ya, it seems to just randomly miss a lot of the time even if they are standing stock still in front of you. Considering its on a 40s cooldown and most classes will be able to cleanse and rebuff LONG before it comes back up it should automatically connect through ANYTHING (so should epi).

The fact thakittens a MUST TAKE and its buggy as all hell and yet we all STILL take it says a lot about the sad state of the Necro at the moment.

EDIT: Really ANet? Really?? Saying that its, gets blocked by your filter… how bad are you guys at writing the rules for this forum.

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Posted by: manveruppd.7601

manveruppd.7601

Better idea: make corrupt boon not miss? :p

A bad necromancer always blames the corpse.

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Posted by: ronpierce.2760

ronpierce.2760

Better idea: make corrupt boon not miss? :p

I’m for it.

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Warlord Sikari (80 Scrapper)