Guild Wars 2

So this is definitely just a whine for no reason post, but I think its funny to compare mesmer skills to necro ones that are extremely similar, but the mesmer variations are (in my opinion) so much better.

Compare our Axe 1 and 2 skills to mesmer main-hand sword 1 and 2.
-Both auto attacks apply vulnerability, but one also strips boons and deals more damage at the end of the chain.
-2 skill is a 2.5 second channel that deal comparable amounts of damage, except that mesmers evade that entire time.
-Oh and the 3 skill for mesmer is ACTUALLY a combo finisher. That they can control. Weird

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mirror_Blade
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Reaper%27s_Touch

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mirror_Images
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Summon_Bone_Minions

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Null_Field
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Well_of_Power
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Well_of_Corruption
I realize that our wells convert the conditions and boons instead of removing them, but I feel that null field does the important part, getting rid of the boons/condis, and its all in one skill.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Portal_Entre
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Spectral_Walk
Portal lasts longer, goes farther, and transports your whole team.

Grumble Grumble. End rant.

Mesmer is a blink-tank job using decoys to take hits and has evades. It is a ranged mage and develops dps through pets. It seems more similar to Ranger.

Necromancer has an invulnerability skill it has to charge. It has no evades and dps drops rapidly with range (except for MM). Guardian also has to brute-force it’s way through a battle and uses boon and condition spam.

In my mind, the two professions are very different.

Mesmer and necro are my 2 fav profs. You could make any argument you wanted with the format you have, such as follows:

Compare necro axe skills to mesmer main-hand sword skills.
-Both auto attacks apply vulnerability, but one is melee and one is ranged.
-2 skill is a 2.5 second channel that deals comparable amounts of damage, except that necro’s is much easier to land due to it’s range.
-Oh and the 3 skill for necro is AOE, strips boons and cripples foes while providing the necro with retaliation weird…

I understand your frustration and I’m not saying my above comparison is true but your argument doesn’t work. These are two different profs with different sets of tools. They work in different ways even though there are many similarities between the two. The arguments you’re trying to make is like trying to argue that apples are better than oranges.

Necro as a profession has a lot of tools that mesmers could only hope for. Embrace our differences

Mesmer variations better?! Hahaha… All Mesmer weapons are weak compared to the Necro. Comparing the axe and sword? Axe is a million times better.
Skill 1: extremely sluggish melee attack vs very fast ranged attack. Guess what wins. Boon strip is good, but dps on sword is crap. Its also buggy, with delayed attack chains.
Skill 2: Nerfed to the ground mess that barely work vs one of the best ranged bursts in the game.
Skill 3: Buggy broken mess that doesnt work vs dumbfire AoE cripple which also have high damage.

Necro wells and marks beat the snot out of any AoE the Mesmer has (except iBerserker)

The Mesmer is good at dueling and evasion, but thats pretty much it.

Dawdler and the OP just made it clear as to how bias can destroy someones judgement as Sabwa said.

lol comparing a ranged weapon (axe) to a melee one.

Necro dagger blows mesmer sword auto out of the water.

If there’s a class with less damage output than a necro, mesmer is it. Mesmer is virtually the lowest damage class practically in the game, it’s just that the utility they bring keep a party spot for them, otherwise they’d be kicked even more than a ranger.

zapv.8051:

Dawdler and the OP just made it clear as to how bias can destroy someones judgement as Sabwa said.

Biased toward what? I mained Mesmer almost exlusivly for 1.5 years and it was even the reason I began building Bifrost. I have played Necro for 3 months.

Mesmer is tons of fun, but most weapon skills are meh and weaker than other classes, only the greatsword truly stand out and I dont even like using it.

Yeah I probably should have not made this post. It was a pretty rash spur-of-the-moment thing.

zapv.8051:

Dawdler and the OP just made it clear as to how bias can destroy someones judgement as Sabwa said.

Sabwa.7358:

Mesmer and necro are my 2 fav profs. You could make any argument you wanted with the format you have, such as follows:

Compare necro axe skills to mesmer main-hand sword skills.
-Both auto attacks apply vulnerability, but one is melee and one is ranged.
-2 skill is a 2.5 second channel that deals comparable amounts of damage, except that necro’s is much easier to land due to it’s range.
-Oh and the 3 skill for necro is AOE, strips boons and cripples foes while providing the necro with retaliation weird…

I understand your frustration and I’m not saying my above comparison is true but your argument doesn’t work. These are two different profs with different sets of tools. They work in different ways even though there are many similarities between the two. The arguments you’re trying to make is like trying to argue that apples are better than oranges.

Necro as a profession has a lot of tools that mesmers could only hope for. Embrace our differences

Thank you for talking sense into me!

The only thing we should be comparing is our current frustrations that hold our two classes back ^^, I feel Necro and Mesmer share a special similarity atm.
Sincerely, Mesmer main.

Neptune.2570:

The only thing we should be comparing is our current frustrations that hold our two classes back ^^, I feel Necro and Mesmer share a special similarity atm.
Sincerely, Mesmer main.

Yes this.
Sure, necromancer would kill to have the mobility, stealth, escapes, evades, lockdown, and group utility of a mesmer.
As I’m sure mesmers would kill to have our sustained dps, our wells and completely amazing AOE dps that can end an entire team fight, and our 5k life blast auto attacks, +other things I’m sure.
I’m the end, both classes are sort of In the same spot in the meta, and both need some buffs or work done.