Guild Wars 2

I don’t have anything held up in me for other professions, but do you remember when Torment first came up it was treated as the “necro condition”? Looking at it right now – and mesmer proposed changes – it seems among other professions that have access to torment necros can apply it the least. Again, this is not a whine thread or spite to other professions, but do you think will we ever see some love for Torment (no pun intended)?

Its not the “necro condition” it was first introduced on Necros with suggestions as to what it should do from us. It was never a “necro condition” though.

Well, it kinda was. It was never intended to be exclusive to necros, but it was designed for necros.

Bhawb.7408:

Its not the “necro condition” it was first introduced on Necros with suggestions as to what it should do from us. It was never a “necro condition” though.

Yes, its not the necromancer, condition, but you know why people are calling it the necromancer condition. A developer came to these forums and said that necromancers would have the most access to torment. Instead we ended up with the least.

No they didn’t. They said we’d have it first.

So is it intended that we have only 3 stacks every 40 seconds in the start to watch everyone else getting a better uptime of it? I would even prefer to give up some bleeds in exchange. Maybe we will have something in this patch.

Pregnantman.8259:

So is it intended that we have only 3 stacks every 40 seconds in the start to watch everyone else getting a better uptime of it? I would even prefer to give up some bleeds in exchange. Maybe we will have something in this patch.

Remember they gave reveal debuff to engi, and now torment to mesmer scepter AA. They might follow the same pattern with necromancer but this time give both reveal debuff to a utility and torment to scepter #2 or #3. Cross your fingers, and hope for the best at this point.

I would much rather add some new, shiny emphasis to existing Tainted Shackles.

Like besides immobilize, it would also put special effect for couple seconds on targets affected by final strike:

a)Effect which inflicts X torment stacks for Y seconds whenever affected target removes condition.

b)Effect which heals and restores Life Force for every condition removed by affected target.

c)Effect which makes next utility/non-chain AA ability to fail, apply Torment and go on full cooldown. Unblockable.

Yes this will be a wonderful pvp game of ‘slap fight’ when everyone can apply 5-10 stacks of torment and no one can move anymore …lol.

You used to be able to kite entire teams with staff if you knew what you were doing on necro…not anymore since torment.

GG

A stack of Torment on staff auto attack could be nice :P Our staff auto attack is similar to Mesmer scepter auto attack in that they both do 0 condition damage by themselves but are strongest when used as condition weapons (imo). Mesmers will get torment on theirs… would be nice to get one on ours. Doesn’t have to be long either. Two seconds is just enough to cause some pressure.

Torment will never be put on any auto attack lol.

Xavi.6591:

Torment will never be put on any auto attack lol.

Don’t underestimate Dev’s balance thoughts.
Because someday, what you deny may be the sad reality.

Yep, they did.

It was supposed to be the necro condition just like confusion was supposed to be the mesmer condition yet the engineer was far superior at confusion spiking and damage than a mesmer with full confusion traits.

You should know better than to trust in promises.

Bhawb.7408:

No they didn’t. They said we’d have it first.

Yes, they did.