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Posted by: Oozo.7856

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Some 30/10/0/0/30 power movies.

Fighting a couple of hammer trains twice our size.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seOuP_JjAxM

Fighting large groups while outnumbered.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUULv4FY5pg

10+ minutes of fighting large groups back to back to back.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oEz2AkQct0

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Posted by: Rennoko.5731

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I find the 0 20 20 10 20 build my second favorite after the standard. Greater marks and MOB and leveraging spectral skills is very nice.

I agree you don’t need dummfire to be effective, but I don’t think you get enough out of Greater marks and MOB currently to justify dropping 30% to all durations and burning. It works fine, but just not as well.

Logically I would be better off dropping terror and taking spectral durations in standard build with a few spectral skills if I need more survivability. Burning is more reliable, easier to apply, and has much higher uptime than terror. Hence the problem with it.

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Yeah, I’d really love to have the extra duration. Although I think that really has more impact on say a 1v1 or 2v2 than a group fight where there can be so much condition cleansing. And, if the enemy group isn’t good at removing conditions they are dead anyway.

This is much more of a group build than a solo build. Although, I solo with it anyway for the practice. I typically get to spread burning anyway from a groupmate’s burn or a virtue of justice proc.

The thing about greater marks is that the marks can’t be blocked. That comes in handy against groups that are guardian-heavy which is currently most of them.

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Is this dire across the board? Any more info on runes/ sigils used?

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Posted by: oZii.2864

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I find the 0 20 20 10 20 build my second favorite after the standard. Greater marks and MOB and leveraging spectral skills is very nice.

I agree you don’t need dummfire to be effective, but I don’t think you get enough out of Greater marks and MOB currently to justify dropping 30% to all durations and burning. It works fine, but just not as well.

Logically I would be better off dropping terror and taking spectral durations in standard build with a few spectral skills if I need more survivability. Burning is more reliable, easier to apply, and has much higher uptime than terror. Hence the problem with it.

This pretty much is what I did looking at it I dropped potentially 4k damage by not taking Terror but felt I still had good time to kill with dhuumfire and the condition duration. I personally run 30/20/20/0/0 now and like it alot because I love GM in DM.

So instead of terror I run spectral attunement occasionally running master of corruption when my guild is running a bit more serious. I run Traveler runes so 90% condition duration with the new toxic crystals and I run focus for more control with chill (I am in love with focus). I do sometimes go back and take Terror occasionally.

I agree as a necro you can kill without dhuumfire the problem is people can and will disengage from you, or have enough time to stall till backup comes. Smaller group fights or 1v1 scenarios play out like 20/20/30/0/0 mesmer condition builds in that people can just ignore you(though not as bad as the mesmer condition build).

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Posted by: Oozo.7856

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Is this dire across the board? Any more info on runes/ sigils used?

Full dire on armor and weapons. Rabid on jewelry to get my crit chance to a decent level for procs. I’m using torment on weapons.

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Posted by: Rennoko.5731

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Is this dire across the board? Any more info on runes/ sigils used?

Full dire on armor and weapons. Rabid on jewelry to get my crit chance to a decent level for procs. I’m using torment on weapons.

Nice…. I have started using Earth/Torment on mainhand/OH, and decided to go with Rabid on Armor and weapons, and the Dire/Rabid trinkets. I still feel like my survivability is high enough and the extra damage procs help quite a bit.

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Posted by: Oozo.7856

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I’m opting for more survivability. Most fights I have 3 plus people training me the entire fight. Usually hammer warriors, of course. They can’t be snared or rooted or stunned or feared, so I have to be able to survive long enough for my group to kill them as they try to train me down.

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Posted by: MarzAttakz.9608

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Eh bro, thanks for posting those vids, not gonna comment on the spec but I’ve been laughing through all 20 mins of “WvW is Serious Bizness” – by far my favourite of the eight I’ve watched so far.

Love your music choices too, keep ’em coming.

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Posted by: TriskaiX.7014

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Nice…. I have started using Earth/Torment on mainhand/OH

so you are saying that on crit sigils stack? since when? iirc it could not be done a year ago

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Posted by: Brando.1374

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Nice…. I have started using Earth/Torment on mainhand/OH

so you are saying that on crit sigils stack? since when? iirc it could not be done a year ago

For some reason torment sigil has its own icd which is why that sigil can stack.

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Posted by: Rennoko.5731

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Nice…. I have started using Earth/Torment on mainhand/OH

so you are saying that on crit sigils stack? since when? iirc it could not be done a year ago

Torment is special/broken/different in that it has an on-crit ICD that does not interfere with other on-crit / on-swap sigils. JUST Torment sigil, and no others. So a year ago, when Torment Sigil wasn’t released, your case was true.

Earth/Fire doesn’t work, Earth/Battle doesn’t work, but Earth/Torment does work.

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Posted by: Oozo.7856

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New movie is up. This one has a few 5-7vNs against enemy guild groups with even or more numbers than us.

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Posted by: aspirine.6852

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Nice…. I have started using Earth/Torment on mainhand/OH

so you are saying that on crit sigils stack? since when? iirc it could not be done a year ago

Torment is special/broken/different in that it has an on-crit ICD that does not interfere with other on-crit / on-swap sigils. JUST Torment sigil, and no others. So a year ago, when Torment Sigil wasn’t released, your case was true.

Earth/Fire doesn’t work, Earth/Battle doesn’t work, but Earth/Torment does work.

hmmm is it confirmed to be broken by anet or are they fine with it?

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Posted by: Oozo.7856

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Solo/duo fights:1v2, 2v3s, a 1v4, and a few 1v1s.

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Solo/duo fights:1v2, 2v3s, a 1v4, and a few 1v1s.

You sir, are amazing. My condi/perplexity Warrior that I spent a crap ton of time/gold/gems to create just looks like a fool when I come against a Necro with your build. It’s pretty darn sad.

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Quite a few small group versus group fights in this one.

Also, a lengthy unedited 4vN.

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Posted by: Xsorus.2507

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Nice…. I have started using Earth/Torment on mainhand/OH

so you are saying that on crit sigils stack? since when? iirc it could not be done a year ago

Torment is special/broken/different in that it has an on-crit ICD that does not interfere with other on-crit / on-swap sigils. JUST Torment sigil, and no others. So a year ago, when Torment Sigil wasn’t released, your case was true.

Earth/Fire doesn’t work, Earth/Battle doesn’t work, but Earth/Torment does work.

I went and tested it out, and it does work, I was surprised..

Was thinking of ways i could work it in my Ranger builds.. but for necro’s its just silly.

auto attack ends up applying like 6 or 7 conditions heheh

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Posted by: Poxheart.2845

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As always, very enjoyable videos.

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Posted by: alanis.6094

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Fun fights to watch, but also a bit frustrating.

I try to learn from successful Necro’s on how to 1-2vX, but this video didn’t really help that much because every time I said to myself that “I’d be chain CCd here”, I see that you had Stability from your teammate. Its a different game for those of us without Stability bots.

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Posted by: Oozo.7856

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I’d know nothing about that. I always have stability. Even when I’m soloing.

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Posted by: Fraeg.9837

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Great stuff as always.

I take it you are no longer using Traveler runes (signet of locust instead). That is an expensive set of runes that I have been thinking of buying. Care to share why you stopped using them?

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I’ve never used traveler’s. I’ve been using scavenging with the dire set.

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Posted by: Burnfall.9573

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Op. well done!

i like and enjoy your videos.

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Posted by: Fraeg.9837

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I run Traveler runes so 90% condition duration with the new toxic crystals and I run focus for more control with chill (I am in love with focus). I do sometimes go back and take Terror occasionally.

doh, was looking at oZii not Oozo :P

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New movie up poking fun at Yak’s Bend (nothing personal – I actually like that they fight in the open field with manageable numbers quite often). This one has a 4v10, 3v7, 3v5, 2v4, and a 2v6 (one runs away midfight).

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Posted by: Oozo.7856

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I run Traveler runes so 90% condition duration with the new toxic crystals and I run focus for more control with chill (I am in love with focus). I do sometimes go back and take Terror occasionally.

doh, was looking at oZii not Oozo :P

That explains it.

Apologies in advance if I don’t always reply to a question or comment. I’m dealing with a 15 minute flood control on my posts.

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Posted by: Rennoko.5731

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+1, I very much enjoy your vids. Makes me wish we were on Ehmory. Carrying last place for 7 weeks in a row was not the best thing for my server.

Most of our roamers have given up on the zergging and general promotion of that playstyle, to the point it is hard to find anyone that wants to roam (including myself). At least SPVP has welcomed me with open arms.

We had some good times during the season, it is just a shame the development team seems intent to cater to to the blob rather than the smaller group.

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Posted by: Oozo.7856

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+1, I very much enjoy your vids. Makes me wish we were on Ehmory. Carrying last place for 7 weeks in a row was not the best thing for my server.

Most of our roamers have given up on the zergging and general promotion of that playstyle, to the point it is hard to find anyone that wants to roam (including myself). At least SPVP has welcomed me with open arms.

We had some good times during the season, it is just a shame the development team seems intent to cater to to the blob rather than the smaller group.

It can be frustrating at times no matter which tier you are in, but I’m sure the ratio of fun nights to suck nights goes down a lot in the Gold leagues. Things should be better for you guys now though.

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This one is a 5v13+ against a hammer heavy guild group.

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Posted by: Oozo.7856

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A necromancer theme song movie. :P

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This one is a 5v13+ against a hammer heavy guild group.

I lol’d pretty hard when that engi was spiked.

“He got the stomp on you” lol I think he knew that :P

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I was trying to let the others know that he got spiked, but it didn’t come out the right way. :P

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Posted by: ArmageddonAsh.6430

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Very nice movie. You still running the same build? What is Tormenting like?

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Posted by: Oozo.7856

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Couple of movies. I’ll be switching to power necro for a change of pace.

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Posted by: Xavi.6591

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Can you link your power build?

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Fought AD and friends a couple time during leagues best small guild group we’ve ever fought. I can only imagine the absolute destruction you guys lay down on BP baddies. Great videos. Personally I think power is more viable but condis in the hands of a good necro is very powerful too as these videos show.

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Fought AD and friends a couple time during leagues best small guild group we’ve ever fought. I can only imagine the absolute destruction you guys lay down on BP baddies. Great videos. Personally I think power is more viable but condis in the hands of a good necro is very powerful too as these videos show.

Thanks, I remember fighting your guild. Some nice fights. BP has some decent guilds/players on it though, IMO.

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Some power movies.

Fighting a couple of hammer trains twice our size.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seOuP_JjAxM

Fighting large groups while outnumbered.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUULv4FY5pg

10+ minutes of fighting large groups back to back to back.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oEz2AkQct0

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Posted by: Xavi.6591

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Just coming back to my necro. used to play condi Necro in the past. Oozo, could you link your 30/10/0/0/30 power build traits, sigils and gear? Is this zerkers or a mix?

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Posted by: Akz.5631

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Rennoko.5731 What build is that you reffer 0/20/20/10/20 can you link it plz?

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Posted by: Rennoko.5731

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Rennoko.5731 What build is that you reffer 0/20/20/10/20 can you link it plz?

The difference would simply be taking the 30 points from the “standard” build out of the spite tree, and putting them into greater marks and Mark of Evasion. Easier to hit marks, the high uptime on regen, and obviously the unblockable part and cooldowns on staff.

Also you have the added benefit of being able to change straight over to power gear, swapping out terror with spectral attunement, and still have a fine build.

Traits look like that: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vQAQBgCQSx1PPV47IFHHMlC4TH

Sorry for the thread highjack Oozo.

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Posted by: Oozo.7856

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Haha, no problem. To Xavi, thanks. I’m not running power ATM, but conditions. All my power stuff is banked so it’s not something I could do quickly but I’m using a mixture of gear. The build is really kind of the standard build you would run for power DPS.

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