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Posted by: SJCTsauce.6091

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I’ve been an off-and-player since release and have managed an 80 Engie and 80 Ele. Since then, I’ve been searching among the remaining professions something I think I’d enjoy. I unfortunately/fortunately found this in the Necromancer. But browsing these forums, there seems to be a dire need of love for the Necromancer seeing as they are unwanted in PvE and solely relegated to sPvP and WvW. I have no issue with PvP content, but some days I want to beat some bosses with a group.

The bigger question still remains. Is it worth it to invest time in a profession who will most likely be overlooked?

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Posted by: Bhawb.7408

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Here is a flowchart (sans chart) for rolling a new class:

Is the class fun?

If yes, roll the class. If no, don’t.

And if you’ve got an 80 Ele and Engi, you’re already used to the two classes that are considered as “broken” as Necro.

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Posted by: SJCTsauce.6091

SJCTsauce.6091

Here is a flowchart (sans chart) for rolling a new class:

Is the class fun?

If yes, roll the class. If no, don’t.

And if you’ve got an 80 Ele and Engi, you’re already used to the two classes that are considered as “broken” as Necro.

That is a really good point. My masochistic tendencies have rarely been wrong.

Side-Note: I bet A-net could make some money selling Necromancer nipple clamps.

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Posted by: Bhawb.7408

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Not likely, I’m sure we’ve all got quite a few pairs already.

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Posted by: Ruruuiye.8912

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The bottom line if you want PvE, do not roll a necro. I am not going sit around seeing folks get led astray down this path even if I main a necro.

As a corollary however, it’s difficult to function on the GW2 PvE scene without a zerker warrior; it’s kind of like not having a car in America. Even if you don’t enjoy the class and assuming you already have a class (either Ele or Engie) that you enjoy, you should probably get a zerker warrior before rolling a Necro for PvP.

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Posted by: flow.6043

flow.6043

Haha. Before creating a necro you should consider that relogging onto that character will take about 10 sec longer for applying your nipple clamps.
There’s also a hidden option in the game settings, only available to necros and active by default, which overlays the first loading screen with a pop-up text promting the player to put on their clamps – much like 3d glasses movie theaters – because only then will they get a true “feeling” for what it means to play this class.

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Posted by: Zaganna.6034

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The real problem for necro is that is hard to fit him inside an optimized group. People who wants to farm Cof p1 in less than 10 min (or any other dungeon) will not like necros in their party, especially condition (althrough some parties just ask for a full beserker set)

Other than that, Necro is a fine and fun class. It’s easy to level up, it’s great in open wolrd PvE, while in dungeon you must understand that the only attacks that you avoid are those you dodge, there is no form of invulnerability (mass blind aside)

If you like the class or the concept, then just make one. Overall is (only) fine, and no one can deny it.

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Posted by: longshot.1397

longshot.1397

do it.. have fun! i used to main a guardian, i discovered and have sooo much more fun with my necro alt, she is now my main. i am gearing her with everything. my guardian is back to zerker build so i have an alt for those rare (and i mean rare) time where my necro isn’t welcome. If you have fun with it, build it, play it, enjoy it. Don’t let others rule your downtime with the meta builds and warrior/mesmer mentality.

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Posted by: Kraag Deadsoul.2789

Kraag Deadsoul.2789

All the issues aside (and we DO have issues that remain unresolved all the way since launch), Necro is fun to play. The complaints are legitimate, but – speaking for myself – have as much to do with untapped potential as they do with actual bugs and the disconnect between what necros were touted as being versus how they actually play.

Despite my complaints, necro is my main at over 4,000 hours put into now. And that’s using what is roundly considered to be the most sub-optimal build of all, Blood Necro. So does it have problems. Yes. Is it still fun to play? Yes!

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Posted by: Tuds.3860

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Ok I will be frank about this ROLL WHATEVER YOU WANT TO PLAY.
If there is one thing I absolutely hate is when I have to guide myself to other people’s whims to choose how I play a game I payed for in orther to enjoy Myself (see the emphasis)
In any case I rolled all the classes mostly deleted some characters as i found them boring (ele just wasn’t for me in GW 2, I preffered the GW 1 version).
I stuck with thief and guardian because I enjoyed the feel behind the class and lore, Plus for roleplay reasons, call me a bit imaginative but I made up this little continuity story for my characters form GW1 and my thief is the descendant of my assassin from GW1 with some cool back story and what not.
The main point is this is a game in which you should have fun playing. Make a necro to play the game with friends. Noone is going to deny you the right to play what you want to play and yes if you want to speed clear dungeons you know the meta (Look at me Im a zerker uuu – pff). If you want to just explore play have fun gimmick arround with the class mechanics by all means do so.
The core is you got some characters to Lvl 80 and if you had fun playing them and want to try something new go for it.
I’m having hopes they are going to fix this eventually and they started taking steps towards rebalancing slowly. No more 10 min dungeon runs, like come on that is not suppossed to happen people.

Point of my rant is, just paly what you want to play, don’t be worried or ashamed of it.
And hey I made a necro today and guess what I love it love it love and nobody cna take that away from me.

Would also suggest you take a look at some of Nemesis’ build videos on the necor on youtube, they will make you fall in love with the class

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Posted by: Lalangamena.3694

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i just had (as a guard) a speed COF1 with three necros.

PVE as necro is possible , but you will have to start your own groups. as the majority are “LFZERKUR WAR FAST RAN P1”
I also was in parties where the leader kicked rangers, but i never seen necroes being kicked.
power necroes are fun.

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Posted by: Rapier.3675

Rapier.3675

role necro… find guild who don’t care what class u r, as long u don’t suck at it and u’ll do any content with party in GW2. And yes necros are most wanted class in wvw guild runs

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Posted by: bri.2359

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OP, there is some love in PvE for necros, mainly at the new 3-headed Wurm event to take care of the champ husk spawns.

Each wurm head needs a party of 4-5 condimancers, and the 12-15 necros who regularly show up to do this task are a valued part of the 140+ team in my guild.

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Posted by: Dalanor.5387

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i just had (as a guard) a speed COF1 with three necros.

PVE as necro is possible , but you will have to start your own groups. as the majority are “LFZERKUR WAR FAST RAN P1”
I also was in parties where the leader kicked rangers, but i never seen necroes being kicked.
power necroes are fun.

People who run mostly only CoF are really really behind the meta. Yesterday i got kicked from P2 as a ele … :/
But on topic, i still don’t see power necromancers too often. The good thing is that MM necro is a rare thing or at least i didn’t see them in a long time.

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Posted by: Shaogin.2679

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Necro is incredibly fun to play. We have some mobility issues and have problems with large amounts of cc being thrown at us, making it difficult to run past mobs that many dungeon groups tend to skip. This however is easily fixed by rolling a Norn necro and using the Snow Leopard elite. However, still not immpossible to skip past those mobs on other races, just more difficult. Other than that, I play power necro and love it. Have no issues in PvE or PvP.

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Posted by: Coffietire.2783

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If you insist on grouping with those mob skipping and fun hating full zerkers, then yes, Necro will not be a fun class to play as. However, in a group that uses tactics over exploits, a necro can be an awesome debuffer, surprizingly, that don’t make bad healers ether.

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Posted by: Anchoku.8142

Anchoku.8142

Roll a Necro and use it as a mule until later, whenever that is.

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Posted by: GrandmaFunk.3052

GrandmaFunk.3052

important clarification: when ppl go on about necros not being good and/or wanted in PvE… they’re strictly speaking of dungeons/fractals and only in the context of “you don’t DPS as much as a zerk warrior”.

necros do just fine in open world content or in instanced content with non-leet players.

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Posted by: Dalanor.5387

Dalanor.5387

Open world is everything, but challenging. World bosses can be (and will be) simply zerged down, champions can be soloed after a certain level, so its not an issue.
Instanced content, including dungeons and fractals, are fine too, however as said already, necro can’t really provide anything beside dps, which isn’t in the top sadly, thus they far from great in group content.
If you want to be a leecher and carried by the group, fine.

However, in WvW necro is more or less fine. Conditions are great for solo or small group roaming, even power builds can achieve good results and when zerg balls collide, the tons of aoe can be a good thing. Escaping is not an option, so you need to be more carefull about your position and when things going badly you have to plan ahead how you want to get out the danger zone.

Currently condi and MM necro is fine in sPvP, power can do stuff. Bunker still aren’t viable.