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Posted by: ichyboy.2315

ichyboy.2315

This is what I noticed recently on necro minions. DON’T DO First blood on mobs… let the minions hit first before you then you’ll notice that all minions attacks all the time.

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Posted by: IsSuE.3746

IsSuE.3746

What do you mean by that? I am having the problem, that my minions seem to be standing next to me and watching me fight most of the time.

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Posted by: Fartbake.4508

Fartbake.4508

What do you mean by that? I am having the problem, that my minions seem to be standing next to me and watching me fight most of the time.

specially bone minions and occasionally my shadow fiend… they seem a little… ‘slow’

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Posted by: ichyboy.2315

ichyboy.2315

ok here’s what i noticed. most monsters don’t come in packs so what I do I go near them and let them do first strike or let the minions do first strike. most of the time they attack the minions or the minions attack the monster. Once they have done so, cast any skill and the rest of the minions will attack as well. I tried it on many area on the map and never failed.

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Posted by: Riot Inducer.8964

Riot Inducer.8964

Interesting, I will have to test this. But hopefully we’ll get an AI fix so that we can attack however we please and have the minions follow like the obedient little corpses they’re supposed to be.

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Posted by: Sjach Darasv.3729

Sjach Darasv.3729

ok here’s what i noticed. most monsters don’t come in packs so what I do I go near them and let them do first strike or let the minions do first strike. most of the time they attack the minions or the minions attack the monster. Once they have done so, cast any skill and the rest of the minions will attack as well. I tried it on many area on the map and never failed.

Wait till you get to the level 65+ zones, you will be hard pressed to be fighting anything less than 3 mobs at a time lol

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Posted by: ichyboy.2315

ichyboy.2315

Im already Lvl 80… I just happen to notice this when Im looking for craft mats… I can kill 5 Risen mobs all at the same time… yeah but sometimes I get killed also.

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Posted by: Riot Inducer.8964

Riot Inducer.8964

ok here’s what i noticed. most monsters don’t come in packs so what I do I go near them and let them do first strike or let the minions do first strike. most of the time they attack the minions or the minions attack the monster. Once they have done so, cast any skill and the rest of the minions will attack as well. I tried it on many area on the map and never failed.

Have just been trying it out a bit and it is very effective, as long as I don’t personally initiate combat they’ll all always attack. Kind of stupid, but it works. I’ve also noticed you can get them “primed” to attack if you use a minion ability, like the Shadow Fiend’s Haunt to deal damage to an enemy.

Now if only there was a workaround for the Flesh Golem’s hyper aggressiveness.

Edit: I would just like to point out how ridiculous the Flesh Golem’s aggro/AI is. While testing this I could reliably walk to roughly 1000-800 game unit distance from a hostile mob and the flesh golem would run after it. On several occasions I also noticed it would aggro a mob then switch targets to another nearby mob once it got closer to it’s initial target.

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Posted by: dgire.8742

dgire.8742

One thing that I noticed, was that if I sent my shadow fiend in first with his ’blind" attack all my minions would begin attacking. Other than that I am experiencing the same issues where if I attack first, about 30% of the time half of my minions, if not all of them, would just stand there.

Try sending a minion in first… “60% of the time, it works everytime.” – Brian Fantana

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Posted by: ichyboy.2315

ichyboy.2315

One thing that I noticed, was that if I sent my shadow fiend in first with his ’blind" attack all my minions would begin attacking. Other than that I am experiencing the same issues where if I attack first, about 30% of the time half of my minions, if not all of them, would just stand there.

Try sending a minion in first… “60% of the time, it works everytime.” – Brian Fantana

Yes, that is correct… can confirm that also…

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Posted by: Sjach Darasv.3729

Sjach Darasv.3729

Not sure if you notice the difference but it was pointed out in another thread about minions and i just don’t like playing the minion build so if anyone wants to test out this theory. It was said that minions didn’t start acting stupid until you had the flesh golem. Try it with and without the golem out, if there is a difference it is the golems stupidity being spread to other minions.

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Posted by: Nismu.4019

Nismu.4019

are you suggesting they have some kind of.. swarm stupidity?

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Posted by: Sjach Darasv.3729

Sjach Darasv.3729

Someone else suggested it, like I said I don’t use minions and didn’t really like using them to begin with so I didn’t know. According to the player that said it though, minions didn’t start acting stupid until they got the golem.

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